2013 Free Agency Discussion - Page 4

SINCE1978 · 03-03-2011, 05:26 AM

I agree on Hawk ... but my gut says he is staying put in GB for less cash.

hybridremix · 03-03-2011, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by noondog

AJ Hawk released by the Packers today. I'd love to see the Lions make a pitch for him.

Well, I would love that signing, but we only have a day to pull it off!

hybridremix · 03-03-2011, 09:19 AM

Err...nevermind. Spoke before I knew what I was talking about. He already re-signed with them: http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...h-Packers.html. Good call, S78.

Scotty D · 03-03-2011, 07:24 PM

Tendered
Dylan Gandy
Zack Follett
Prince Miller
Jerome Felton
Dave Rayner
Andre Fluellen
John Wendling
Turk McBride

Released
Kevin Smith (not tendered)
Julian Peterson

SINCE1978 · 03-04-2011, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Scotty D

Tendered
Dylan Gandy
Zack Follett
Prince Miller
Jerome Felton
Dave Rayner
Andre Fluellen
John Wendling
Turk McBride

Released
Kevin Smith (not tendered)
Julian Peterson

A little surprised on Kevin Smith being 24, but they must feel the injuries & Maurice Morris are enough to say see-ya!

Also, Dylan Gandy (not that he sees the field) but he does not do anythting for me?! Anybody else agree that our interior Oline needs help & better depth? Uga.

Hopefully Follett recovers. I would have hated for his short but quirky career to end on the china doll comments. I'm sure he feels the same! Redemption? Not sure if he is the OLB answer bu he is sure an amazing PAIN TRAIN on ST! :-)

hybridremix · 03-04-2011, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SINCE1978

Also, Dylan Gandy (not that he sees the field) but he does not do anythting for me?! Anybody else agree that our interior Oline needs help & better depth? Uga.

Gandy is exactly why a versatile interior guy who can play both G and C -- like a Danny Watkins or John Moffitt -- is the most important OL position of need. On a similar note, Fluellen is exactly why a versatile DL is a position of need.

Scotty D · 03-04-2011, 03:49 PM

http://twitter.com/davebirkett/statu...54421246623745

Lions re-sign Nathan Vasher,CB to a one year deal.

He played pretty well done the stretch and made some key plays in the four game win streak.

http://twitter.com/ttwentyman/status/43743085242486784

Stanton was tendered at the original round level (2nd). How nice would it be for a QB starved team to sign him to an offer sheet? I hope some teams took notice of some of the games he played in at the end of the year. I like Stanton but we have Shaun Hill and I'll gladly take a second rounder for him.

IwannatalktoSampson · 04-11-2011, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Scotty D

http://twitter.com/davebirkett/statu...54421246623745

Lions re-sign Nathan Vasher,CB to a one year deal.

He played pretty well done the stretch and made some key plays in the four game win streak.

http://twitter.com/ttwentyman/status/43743085242486784

Stanton was tendered at the original round level (2nd). How nice would it be for a QB starved team to sign him to an offer sheet? I hope some teams took notice of some of the games he played in at the end of the year. I like Stanton but we have Shaun Hill and I'll gladly take a second rounder for him.

I still cant believe we took him in the 2nd round...fricken millen! Idiot

SINCE1978 · 04-16-2011, 08:42 AM

Which team is that desperate really to surrender a 2nd rd pick for a 6-10 teams 3rd QB option?

For a team seeking a QB, McElroy or Stanzi could be there in the 3rd rd?

hybridremix · 04-16-2011, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SINCE1978

Which team is that desperate really to surrender a 2nd rd pick for a 6-10 teams 3rd QB option?

For a team seeking a QB, McElroy or Stanzi could be there in the 3rd rd?

But that's not usually how this works. Teams very rarely ever just sign the guy and sacrifice a pick. There's always dialogue and bartering. They give out these tenders just to make sure no other team can step in and jip them. If someone really did want the known quantity that is Stanton instead of the unknown quantity of a mid-teir rookie QB, they'd talk to Mayhew, and much less than a 2nd rounder would get worked out. I promise you the Lions don't actually consider Stanton to be the same value as a 2nd round pick.

SINCE1978 · 04-30-2011, 03:30 PM

http://thehouseofspears.net/?p=372

Found an intersting article with statistics on Chris Houston as a Lion ... do you guys feel we should bring him back?

DrunkenLament · 04-30-2011, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SINCE1978

http://thehouseofspears.net/?p=372

Found an intersting article with statistics on Chris Houston as a Lion ... do you guys feel we should bring him back?

I think its a no brainer we bring him back. He wasn't outstanding last year but he was by far the best corner for us last year. Those statistics don't tell you what percentage of passes we're thrown Houston's way when there were five or more db's, they just say that as a unit they were terrible. Which we already knew.

SINCE1978 · 04-30-2011, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DrunkenLament

I think its a no brainer we bring him back. He wasn't outstanding last year but he was by far the best corner for us last year. Those statistics don't tell you what percentage of passes we're thrown Houston's way when there were five or more db's, they just say that as a unit they were terrible. Which we already knew.

The most interesting thing will be to see what other teams value him at ...

WMD · 04-30-2011, 08:55 PM

For free agency, whenever it happens, how about we sign both Stephen LB's.. that's Stephen Tulloch and Stephen Nicholas. It sounds like they want to come here, let's bring them both!

Xiomera · 04-30-2011, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by WMD

For free agency, whenever it happens, how about we sign both Stephen LB's.. that's Stephen Tulloch and Stephen Nicholas. It sounds like they want to come here, let's bring them both!

Best defense ever.

boknows34 · 05-01-2011, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by WMD

For free agency, whenever it happens, how about we sign both Stephen LB's.. that's Stephen Tulloch and Stephen Nicholas. It sounds like they want to come here, let's bring them both!

Would not surprise me if Schwartz parks his car outside Tulloch's house and calls him one minute into free agency like he did with KVB last year. Tulloch's quote before the lockout was: "A lot of good things out of (Ndamukong Suh) was happening. I think they're definitely starting to turn things around."

Richard Marshall is another name to look for at CB. Aqib Talib may be cut by Tampa Bay but I'm not sure Schwartz will be interested after his experience with PacMan Jones in Tennessee.

Next year's draft: Aggressive pursuit of the OL like the Colts did this year with Castonzo and Ijalana.

SINCE1978 · 05-01-2011, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by boknows34

Would not surprise me if Schwartz parks his car outside Tulloch's house and calls him one minute into free agency like he did with KVB last year. Tulloch's quote before the lockout was: "A lot of good things out of (Ndamukong Suh) was happening. I think they're definitely starting to turn things around."

Richard Marshall is another name to look for at CB. Aqib Talib may be cut by Tampa Bay but I'm not sure Schwartz will be interested after his experience with PacMan Jones in Tennessee.

Next year's draft: Aggressive pursuit of the OL like the Colts did this year with Castonzo and Ijalana.

IMO Marshall would be solid, Joseph too @ Cinci (not mentioned here)

I say no to to Talib.

I also agree on oline for 2012. I was claiming all off season on here to the small group wanting the LT in 2011's draft, wait until next year! Doubling up would be solid (T then G) Stud LT then a combo guy G/C maybe?

LonghornsLegend · 05-03-2011, 07:04 PM

Would you guys be interested in giving up a 2nd or 3rd round pick for Janoris Jenkins in the supplemental draft? He's got his issues too, but he's a 1st rd talent and you get him right away.

WMD · 05-03-2011, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornsLegend

Would you guys be interested in giving up a 2nd or 3rd round pick for Janoris Jenkins in the supplemental draft? He's got his issues too, but he's a 1st rd talent and you get him right away.

It's tough. I don't know if I want a player who's been kicked off of his College team. He's talented but I just don't know if he'd be worth risking a 2nd/3rd on. I'd probably try with a 4th just incase.

Scotty D · 05-04-2011, 06:09 PM

Mayhew hasn't really acquired guys with major character concerns. The closest was probably trading for Cromartie and Cro isn't a big headcase. I don't think they completely rule those guys out though. I'd send in a 4th or 5th round claim for Jenkins.

Silver & Blue · 05-04-2011, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Scotty D

Mayhew hasn't really acquired guys with major character concerns. The closest was probably trading for Cromartie and Cro isn't a big headcase. I don't think they completely rule those guys out though. I'd send in a 4th or 5th round claim for Jenkins.

Unfortunately it looks like Jenkins might just transfer to a smaller school instead of entering the supplemental draft.

http://www.cbssports.com/#!/collegef...oward-transfer

If he does enter the draft though I would be fine with giving up a 4th or 5th rounder for him.

Prowler · 05-09-2011, 04:36 PM

My shopping list

CB

Either Chris Carr or Josh Wilson-Depends on who resigns in Baltimore
Eric Wright- Still has the talent to become something
Richard Marshall
Carlos Rogers

LB

Stephen Nicholas- I want this guy on our team. Top Priority.
Stephen Tulloch-If we miss on Nicholas then we're paying big $ and moving Levy
Manny Lawson
Rocky McIntosh
James Anderson
Justin Durant

Others
Harvey Dahl or Justin Blalock Guards from Atlanta
Jason Babin DE Tennessee

DoughBoy · 05-09-2011, 05:40 PM

plz plz plz plz plz someone take Stephen Tulloch from us.

Prowler · 05-11-2011, 07:46 AM

So do you want a 4th rounder for him?

Maybe This Year Mayhew · 05-11-2011, 03:51 PM

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...e=HP_headlines

Here is the list if we go by 2010 rules. I don't see any of those LBs or Guards as unrestricted if that happens or Eric Wright or Richard Marshall. We keep Houston if 2010 rules apply. I think all the guards and LBs would be restricted so no thanks on giving up a high draft pick. Working out a deal for a mid round pick would be much better.

Given the list I go for Ike Taylor or Carlos Rogers hard to pair with Houston and move Alphonso to the slot with Aaron Berry. Rogers has no ball skills so Ike Taylor is preferred but doubt he isn't resigned by Pittsburgh. Chris Carr wouldn't be bad either.

LBs I wouldn't mind Ben Leber or Pisa. They are solid and it takes away from a division rival. Pisa is an injury risk though.

Here is the restricted list with some tenders.

http://www.macsfootballblog.com/2011...nt-tender.html