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Old 05-02-2011, 02:28 AM    (permalink
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From 55 seconds to 65 seconds he really reminded me of Tramon, just the way he ran :D
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Didn't really grade it out, but I ranked them based on how much I liked the pick.

1. Derrek Sherrod (32)
2. Randall Cobb (64)
3. Ricky Elmore (197)
4. DJ Williams (141)
5. Davon House (131)
6. Alex Green (96)
7. Lawrence Guy (233)
8. Caleb Sclauderaff (179)
9. Ryan Taylor (218)
10. DJ Smith (186)
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Btw, I love Ryan Taylor. I was happy he was selected
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I think the Packers had a fantastic draft. Cobb was probably one of my favorite players in the draft and I was really hoping he'd wind up in Kansas City. Sherrod is a good player, Green looks like a sleeper, and I like House as a developmental corner. DJ Williams and Finley will be a matchup nightmare for defenses (which part of the Packers offense isn't?). Personal fan of Guy and I think he could stick. Elmore could bring some pass rush off the bench. The other guys I don't know much about, but I like seeing them add more protection for Rodgers and taking some shots on defense. Best draft in the NFC North if you ask me.
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D.J. Williams= Aaron Hernandez

Cobb is flat out the best pick of our draft.
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Overall Draft Grade: A-

1st Round) Derek Sherrod, OT - I am going to be critical of this pick till I can see him play. I did not view him as the BPA nor do I view him as a Bryan Bulaga type that can play early on. I think he is athletic, appears to have decent pass protection skills. Anytime you are drafting at the end of Rounds it gets hard; I think the Packers got decent value out of this pick. I guess if either Ayers or Reed become 10 sack guys I will be pissed. I thought we could have solidified our defense with this pick. Instead, in my opinion, I think we took a project at OT. I think he will be okay, potential to be solid, but never good or great. Look at JSonline and look at the video of him in the atlantic ocean, he looks flabby and out of shape, just my opinions. The one thing I do agree with is the fact that we need to keep Arod upright and healthy, if Sherrod lives up to his athletic ability, ARod will have nothing to worry about for atleast 8 years.
Grade: B, based solely on the fact of decent value for where we were picking.

Round 2) Randall Cobb, WR/PR/KR/Holder??? - Love this pick, really did not see him ending up here, thought he would have gone at least first half of Round 2, I think he is a better player and person than what the Lions got in Titus Young. If this kid was one inch taller people would have been talking about him being a legitimate 1st rounder. I mean he set the SEC record for all purpose yards. The previous record holder, Darren McFadden (had a pretty good year last year). Think of how many great SEC players there have been, and now this guys sits atop the All-purpose yards leaderboard. Will make an impact from day one, great pick.
Grade: A+

Round 3) Alex Green, RB - Not gonna lie, when I saw his name I was like "WHO?" literally had to google the name because I had not done any research on this guy. This pick really intrigues me because he is a load and he can run. I really liked watching the highlight tapes of him because he has speed. I hate to make this comparison so early, but after brief highlight tapes, this guy reminds me of Stephen Jackson. He appears to have really soft hands in the pass game, so he probably either takes over on 3rd downs or is used in sub packages. Either way, I see him making some sort of impact. I really like Starks but this guy will push him for PT, especially if Starks has bad practice habits or gets injured.
Grade: B

Round 4) Davon House, CB - Excellent value pick in my mind. He is a project. Give this guy a year in the system and I think he starts making an impact. This selection will likely push someone out of the rotation: Pat Lee or Underwood, as House adds better depth to the CB position. I think House has the physical tools you are looking for but needs some work, luckily he has Wood and Tramon and even Shields to learn from. Great pick at the end of Round 4.
Grade: A

Round 5) DJ Williams, TE - Completely shocked that the John Mackey Award winner was still here. Here are some names of the previous winners: Aaron Hernandez, Fred Davis, Kellen Winslow, Marcedes Lewis, Heath Miller, Dallas Clark, and Daniel Graham. I liken his style to what the Patriots did last year with Hernandez. I really think Williams is going to be a great player and a nice target for ARod. This selection is very Patriots like but one that I think will pay dividends. Love the pick
Grade: A+

Round 6a) Caleb Schlauderaff, OG - In Round 6 it is hard to get excited over an OG. I think the Pack needed to draft an OG so they got a guy to plug in, whether he makes the team that is another story. Productive lineman, smart, not overly physical in the run game, and decent athlete. Not a bad pick just hard to gauge this selection.
Grade: C+

Round 6b) DJ Smith, ILB - Highly productive LB, had over 500 career tackles. I am actually excited about him the more I have read on him. I like that he is squatty, hopefully that means he has some powerful legs. He is going to need a strong camp as an LB but also on special teams. Very interested to see how he does. Not a bad pick, a head scratcher at first but I am okay with this pick.
Grade: C

Round 6c) Ricky Elmore, OLB - The guy has ideal size and strength to be a 3-4 OLB, they only thing missing is speed. He claims to be working with CM3's dad to open up his hips. As TT said in his interview this guy was as productive as anyone coming out of the college ranks as a DL. I think he makes the team if he can prove he is athletic enough, which I think he is. Very good value pick.
Grade:B+

Round 7a) Ryan Taylor, TE - Really questioning this pick as DJ Williams was selected, but the one thing about Taylor that I do like was that he never gave up in college, he was mainly special teams but once given the opportunity he became a solid TE. It will be hard to make the roster but will be a guy that makes plays on ST right away and will have to make his living doing that. It will be hard to beat out Quarless, Crabtree, and Williams, but maybe MM is planning to get away from FB's and start using more H-Backs. If so, Taylor would be a good candidate along with DJ Williams and John Kuhn.
Grade:C

7b) Lawrence Guy, DE - I think TT found another 7th round steal for a DE. Last year he did it with CJ Wilson, this year he does it with Guy. Guy is a run stopper whereas Wilson was more of a pass rusher. Looking at the measurables of the 3-4 DE's taken, he is on par with the top guys like Wilkerson and Heyward. If it wasn't for his learning disabilities he would have been a much higher draft pick. Production was also a little bit lacking as well. I really like this pick, hopefully Guy, Neal, Wilson can help alleviate the hole left by Cullen Jenkins.
Grade: A
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Nice job BigBoi, I think you hit all the picks spot on with your breakdown of them. Just wanted to say from what I have read/heard part of Guy's lack of production came because he was constantly doubled without any help from the rest of the Dline. Its hard to imagine all the guys making the roster, but I think they will because TT typically likes to keep his roster young with fresh additions in talent.

Taylor - Will probably be listed as a TE, but will take of the duties of Korey Hall.

Guy - My guess is he will be Jarius Wynn's replacement, Wilson out performed Wynn last season making Wynn expendable for new talent to prove themselves.

The rest make the team... not sure how it will all break down though.
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1/32 - OT Derek Sherrod
Grade: B

Analysis: It is good value here the Sherrod went pretty much where I expected in the late first round but now they are looking good at the OT position after stealing Bulaga at the bottom of the first last year and taking Sherrod at this spot has the Packers gainning book end tackles for the next 10 years if it works out.

2/64 - WR Randall Cobb
Grade: B

Analysis: Cobb is going to start out as a return specialist and a #5 WR I would imagine until Driver slows down or retires then will find himself in a more and more essential role in the future. But that said the burst they will get from Cobb in the return game will be more than worth the 2nd round selection for the Packers.

3/96 - RB Alex Green
Grade: C-

Analysis: This was a HUGE reach! A player I projected as a 5th or 6th round talent gets taken in the 3rd round. There were considerably better prospects on the board like Taiwan Jones and Kendall Hunter to name a few. TT has proven me wrong in the past so this could be one of those times but I don't see it.

4/131 - CB Davon House
Grade: A

Analysis: Monsterous steal in the fourth round. House was a guy many were projecting in the 2nd or 3rd round. Also he is a perfect fit for the scheme that the Packers run. While unless Woodson moves to safty House won't see the field much in year one but when Woodson retires house will be ready and when we look back on this draft this will be seen as a great pick for the pack.

5/141 - TE D.J. Williams
Grade: A

Analysis: Another considerable steal for the Packers. A great pass catching TE they won't be caught off guard if Finley ends up going down again.

6/179 - OG Caleb Schlauderaff
Grade: B

Analysis: The only real memory of watching Caleb play was at the East/West Shrine game and he was very stout at the point and generally did well in pass coverage. He got beat once or twice but in the sixth round it isn't a bad risk. High effort guy I like the selection.


6/186 - LB D.J. Smith
Grade: C-

Analysis: Very Meh pick Special teams player and a little slow to even do that not a real fan of this selection.

6/197 - LB Ricky Elmore
Grade: A

Analysis: Ricky Elmore is a huge steal and get some huge depth in the OLB position. If you've not seen film on the guy...

http://www.youtube.com/user/rickelmore

He has his own Youtube Channel. High motor guy who will be able to get to the QB every once in a while. GREAT pick in the 6th round.

7/218 - TE Ryan Taylor
Grade: D+

Analysis: Taylor is highly athletic. Another likely special teams guy not much to report here.

7/233 - DE Lawrence Guy
Grade: A

Analysis: Good depth pick at the DE position for the Pack. I wouldn't have been surprised if he was selected a round or two sooner.


Overall Analysis:
Overall Grade: B

Day three was huge for the Pack they had good and bad picks but overall they did OK added depth to a super bowl champion and added one or two starters to the mix as well. Overall good job.
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3/96 - RB Alex Green
Grade: C-

Analysis: This was a HUGE reach! A player I projected as a 5th or 6th round talent gets taken in the 3rd round. There were considerably better prospects on the board like Taiwan Jones and Kendall Hunter to name a few. TT has proven me wrong in the past so this could be one of those times but I don't see it.


A huge reach??? I am not sure I would call it that. We were picking at the end of every round, so calling picks reaches make no sense... if they really liked a guy and didn't think he would be there at the END of the next round then they had to take that player. Not sure if you've watched any film on Green, but he is not 5-6th round talent. IMO he has some of the best feet/agility of all the RBs in this draft. As far as Taiwan Jones/Kendall Hunter go neither really fit the build TT typically looks for in his RB so I don't know that they were better players for the Packers.
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A huge reach??? I am not sure I would call it that. We were picking at the end of every round, so calling picks reaches make no sense... if they really liked a guy and didn't think he would be there at the END of the next round then they had to take that player. Not sure if you've watched any film on Green, but he is not 5-6th round talent. IMO he has some of the best feet/agility of all the RBs in this draft. As far as Taiwan Jones/Kendall Hunter go neither really fit the build TT typically looks for in his RB so I don't know that they were better players for the Packers.
I base my reaches/steals based off from where I consider the players talent level not on the basis that other GMs may have also reached on said payer. I have seen Green play ball security is a big issue in my mind he also plays too upright from what I've seen on film. The fact that the packers pick at the end of each round is irrelivant considering it was at least a full round before I would have selected him.
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Come draft day I had Alex Green as the #4 RB behind Leshoure, Jones, and Ingram so when we snatched him up at the bottom of round three, while I was surprised we took him, I loved the pick
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I base my reaches/steals based off from where I consider the players talent level not on the basis that other GMs may have also reached on said payer. I have seen Green play ball security is a big issue in my mind he also plays too upright from what I've seen on film. The fact that the packers pick at the end of each round is irrelivant considering it was at least a full round before I would have selected him.
Playing upright and ball security can be fixed. His combination of size and speed along with ability to catch the ball can't. Immediate upgrade over Jackson as a 3rd down back.
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Yeah I trust the coaches to fix his fumbling issue. They preach that and do drills constantly with their RB's on that very issue. I don't think the Packers RB corps had a lost fumble all of last season(playoffs included) and overall they had I think only 3 total fumbles(obviously no lost fumbles) that's just phenomenal
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Its not gonna help his fumbling issues playingvin the frozen tundra thats for sure.
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