NBA Discussion Thread - Page 2260

soybean · 06-08-2011, 01:29 AM

Maybe Dirk should always take Haslem off the dribble.

yodapoop · 06-08-2011, 01:36 AM

Not gonna win many games when LeBron scores 8 points.

soybean · 06-08-2011, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by yodapoop

Not gonna win many games when LeBron scores 8 points.

I was listening to the radio on my way home and they said the last time Lebron scored less than 10 points was January 2007.

Nalej · 06-08-2011, 01:44 AM

Wow, that's a long time. Not so good timing, Bron!

descendency · 06-08-2011, 01:49 AM

Top 5 players to blame for Miami's loss:
1. LeBron James
2. LeBron James
3. LeBron James
4. LeBron James
5. Chris Bosh (who disappeared again... in Quarters 3 and 4)

yodapoop · 06-08-2011, 02:29 AM

I can't disagree with that. Boy I'm really steamed at LeBron. This game made me think u all were right about him. I know we're not here without him. But lets fact it, the pre-season championship celebration will come to bite him in the ass with Miami Heat fans themselves. He promised us championships. He didn't promise us 59 wins. He didn't promise us Eastern confrence titles. He promised us NBA Titles. And I freeking want them, and I want them now. And u go out and score 8 points. WTF Man? U better have a huge ass game on Thursday and we better win or u'all were right (ick, I hate saying that) about him. 25, 10, and 5 on Thursday LeBron or I am pissed at u. I may have unrealistic expectations for u some may say, but u put them on urself by promising us titles.

prock · 06-08-2011, 03:18 AM

I feel as though 25-10-5 isn't an unreasonable expectation from the most talented player on the planet on the biggest stage. That should be automatic from him.

fenikz · 06-08-2011, 03:49 AM

Just went and looked at Jordan's Finals game logs, never scored under 20

ugh he averaged 41 ppg, 6.3 apg & 8.5 rpg vs the Suns...**** you MJ

WMD · 06-08-2011, 03:53 AM

Nalej · 06-08-2011, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by fenikz

Just went and looked at Jordan's Finals game logs, never scored under 20

ugh he averaged 41 ppg, 6.3 apg & 8.5 rpg vs the Suns...**** you MJ

Holy ****! That's insane. Was that in 4 games or more?

descendency · 06-08-2011, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Nalej

Holy ****! That's insane. Was that in 4 games or more?

6 - 31, 44, 42, 55, 41, 33

SativaDominant · 06-08-2011, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Nalej

Holy ****! That's insane. Was that in 4 games or more?

Six games. A low of 31 and a high of 55.

Barkley on the BS Report last week actually talked about that series and how it was the moment he realized Jordan was better than him.

Michael Jordan was a career 50% shooter from the floor as a ball handling shooting guard putting up 23 shots a game. Allow that to sink in for a second.

yodapoop · 06-08-2011, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by fenikz

Just went and looked at Jordan's Finals game logs, never scored under 20

ugh he averaged 41 ppg, 6.3 apg & 8.5 rpg vs the Suns...**** you MJ

Haha! Couldn't say it better myself. MJ is sooooooo ******* good. No one is or ever will be as good as him. Thats not a diss on any1. The man won 6 championships and is the reason a lot of people even watch and give a frick about the NBA. No one will be like him and its ridiculous if some think some1 will be be.

Halsey · 06-08-2011, 01:03 PM

People have become so obsessed with the MJ comparisons that they miss out on what a great, well rounded player LeBron is.

SeanTaylorRIP · 06-08-2011, 01:08 PM

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People have become so obsessed with the MJ comparisons that they miss out on what a great, well rounded player LeBron is.

There are no excuses for his play in the finals, yesterday he wasn't even passive he was invisible. Jason Terry even crossed him up and got an open lane to the hoop 3 or 4 times.

sbh15 · 06-08-2011, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Halsey

People have become so obsessed with the MJ comparisons that they miss out on what a great, well rounded player LeBron is.

Lebron is a disgusting athlete with a lot of point guard skills. I wouldn't call him well-rounded. He's honestly not even half as good as he could be offensively. He goes to his jumper wayyyy too much and it's his weakest offensive tool. I am very scared for the day that Lebron pulls his head out of his ass and starts working on a post game. He'll put up 30-35 a night and it's not even a question.

MidwestJimmy · 06-08-2011, 01:19 PM

Here's something I've been wondering about for a while. Everybody hates LeBron James for leaving Cleveland to pursue an NBA title. But didn't Shaquille O'Neal do the same thing when he left Orlando for LA? Granted that LeBron latched onto a guy (Wade) who already had a ring, and Kobe didn't win a ring until Shaq joined him. But the hatred for James stems from him deserting Cleveland, not the fact that Wade already won a title. Is the only difference between the two situations is the fact that the Shaqmeister was lovable and LeBron isn't? What am I missing here?

descendency · 06-08-2011, 01:23 PM

Shaq was the better player in LA.

descendency · 06-08-2011, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Halsey

People have become so obsessed with the MJ comparisons that they miss out on what a great, well rounded player LeBron is.

Personally, that feels like revisionist history. MJ was a quite good defender, rebounder, and passer.

Halsey · 06-08-2011, 01:26 PM

One bad game doesn't change the fact that LeBron is the best player on the planet. His game is incredibly well rounded and needed improvements don't change that.

SeanTaylorRIP · 06-08-2011, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MidwestJimmy

Here's something I've been wondering about for a while. Everybody hates LeBron James for leaving Cleveland to pursue an NBA title. But didn't Shaquille O'Neal do the same thing when he left Orlando for LA? Granted that LeBron latched onto a guy (Wade) who already had a ring, and Kobe didn't win a ring until Shaq joined him. But the hatred for James stems from him deserting Cleveland, not the fact that Wade already won a title. Is the only difference between the two situations is the fact that the Shaqmeister was lovable and LeBron isn't? What am I missing here?

It's a whole slew of things that we've been through 100 times. From the decision, to the parade before ever playing a game, to saying they will win 6 championships, to quiting on Cleveland in the playoffs, it's everything. LeBron also kept saying he wanted to stay in Cleveland.

The Shaq situation is entirely different, he was basically run out of Orlando. First off he never once stated that he wanted to stay in Orlando so lets get that straight. Secondly he publicly hated Brian Hill but the Magic never did anything to find a new coach. Thirdly he couldn't get along with Penny and the fans even wanted Penny over Shaq. The tipping point however was that the Magic lowballed him. They offered 3 years/49 million, where as the Lakers came out and offered 7 years 120 mil. Even after the Magic learned the Lakers offer they still weren't willing to match LA's offer. Between not getting along with Penny and the fan base being split between him and Penny staying in Orlando was not an option. Also Kobe played no part in Shaq coming. Kobe was a nobody when Shaq signed with LA, he hadn't played a game in the NBA yet. If Shaq wanted to team up with a superstar he would have stayed in Orlando, Shaq wanted to be the man of his own team. The same exact thing happened to him basically years later with the Lakers front office siding with Kobe.

Raiderz4Life · 06-08-2011, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MidwestJimmy

Here's something I've been wondering about for a while. Everybody hates LeBron James for leaving Cleveland to pursue an NBA title. But didn't Shaquille O'Neal do the same thing when he left Orlando for LA? Granted that LeBron latched onto a guy (Wade) who already had a ring, and Kobe didn't win a ring until Shaq joined him. But the hatred for James stems from him deserting Cleveland, not the fact that Wade already won a title. Is the only difference between the two situations is the fact that the Shaqmeister was lovable and LeBron isn't? What am I missing here?

Shaq didn't play for his hometown, didn't promise his hometown to play for them until he got them a ring, he didn't have a 1hr ESPN special, he didn't hold a big ass party with Kobe promising several championships.

Idk bout other ppl but I couldn't care less about LeBron leaving. I just hate the way he went about everything. Also, when he does interviews, more often than not, he sounds like such a jackass and then he has to try and apologize and mend his stupidity.

I also hate everything the Heat stand for. All the bandwagon fans, all the LeBron nutthuggers. That's really my reasons for hating the Heat and hating Lebron. I also hate Bosh cuz I think he was overrated at the start..but seems he worked hard to correct ppl's opinions about him haha

PACKmanN · 06-08-2011, 01:43 PM

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Shaq didn't play for his hometown, didn't promise his hometown to play for them until he got them a ring, he didn't have a 1hr ESPN special, he didn't hold a big ass party with Kobe promising several championships.

Idk bout other ppl but I couldn't care less about LeBron leaving. I just hate the way he went about everything. Also, when he does interviews, more often than not, he sounds like such a jackass and then he has to try and apologize and mend his stupidity.

I also hate everything the Heat stand for. All the bandwagon fans, all the LeBron nutthuggers. That's really my reasons for hating the Heat and hating Lebron. I also hate Bosh cuz I think he was overrated at the start..but seems he worked hard to correct ppl's opinions about him haha

you can not compare ESPN to the past to what it is now. Also sports and athletes are much more bigger now to the times of the past

SeanTaylorRIP · 06-08-2011, 01:48 PM

The sad thing is I feel like Heat fans feel obliged to downgrade Wade and promote LeBron just so they can say that this team is so good now that Wade isn't even the go to guy. I wish the Heat fans would hate on LeBron when he plays like trash the way he has the whole finals, he needs to step his game up. The fact is Miami would be celebrating a championship right now if LeBron played like the best player in the league.

D-Unit · 06-08-2011, 01:56 PM

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Haha! Couldn't say it better myself. MJ is sooooooo ******* good. No one is or ever will be as good as him. Thats not a diss on any1. The man won 6 championships and is the reason a lot of people even watch and give a frick about the NBA. No one will be like him and its ridiculous if some think some1 will be be.

In the same amount of time that Lebron has been in the NBA, MJ had 6 seasons shooting over 51% in Field Goal Percentage. Lebron hasn't had one yet... Kobe never has.