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With Free Agency set to start I thought we could use a new thread.

Resources:

List of Free Agents by team
http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/featu...By+Team&y=2011

List of Free Agents by Position
http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/featu...tion=QB&y=2011

Signings:
http://www.nfl.com/news
http://www.rotoworld.com/playernews/nfl/football
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ry/rumor-mill/
http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/featu...by+Team&y=2011

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Discuss signings as they happen and or guys who're up for free agency there's already a thread here with a fantasy type predictions, but I'll keep this one and the following post for a list of who's been signed and for what when it becomes available.

Dates to watch -4th and final edit

Monday night: The NFL will release a complete list of the free agents for the 2011 season.

Tuesday: At 10 a.m., team facilities will open and trades can begin. Teams can begin signing their own drafted rookies and other undrafted free agents. They can also negotiate with other teams’ free agents — however, they can’t sign those players yet.

Wednesday-Sunday: Training camp opens for all teams. (The Patriots will hold their conditioning work on Wednesday, and open camp to the media and the public on Thursday.) The opening of training camps across the league is as follows:

•Camp opens Wednesday for Arizona, Baltimore, Dallas, Denver, Jacksonville, Patriots, Oakland, Philadelphia, San Diego and Seattle.

•Camp opens Thursday for Atlanta, Cincinnati, Detroit, Kansas City, Miami, New Orleans, Pittsburgh, San Francisco, Tampa Bay and Washington.

•Camp opens Friday for Buffalo, Carolina, Chicago, Cleveland, Green Bay, Indianapolis, Minnesota, New York Giants, St. Louis and Tennessee.

•Camp opens Sunday for Houston and New York Jets.

Friday: Starting at 6 p.m., teams can sign other teams’ free agents — the start of full free agency.
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Signings by team

AFC

New England Patriots
Logan Mankins G (F)
Sammy Morris RB
Albert Haynesworth DT TRADE
Chad Ochocinco WR TRADE
Kyle Arrington DB

Buffalo Bills
Drayton Florence CB
Tyler Thigpen QB
Brad Smith WR/RB/Wildcat
Nick Barnett LB


New York Jets
Santonio Holmes WR
Nick Folk K
Wayne Hunter T
Chris Byran P
Plaxico Burress WR
Mark Brunell QB
Antonio Cromartie CB


Miami Dolphins
Reggie Bush RB TRADE
Kevin Burnett ILB
Matt Moore QB
Ronald Fields DT


Pittsburgh Steelers
Ike Taylor CB
Shaun Suisham K
Greg Warren LS


Baltimore Ravens
Marshall Yanda OG/OT
Chris Carr CB
Vonta Leach FB
Casey Rabach OL


Cincinatti Bengals
Bruce Gradkowski QB
Nate Clements CB
Thomas Howard LB
Brian Leonard RB/FB
Cedric Benson RB
Manny Lawson OLB


Cleveland Browns
Brandon Jackson RB
John Greco G
Usama Young S
Derrek Robinson

Jayme Mitchell DE
Dimitri Patterson CB


Indianapolis Colts
Melvin Bullitt S
Adam Vinatieri K
Peyton Manning QB
Antonio Johnson DT
Eric Foster DT
Michael Toudouze IT
Kyle DeVan G
Ernie Sims LB


Jacksonville Jaguars
Paul Posluszny ILB
Jason Spitz C/G
Matt Turk P
Dawan Landry S
Clint Session LB
Drew Coleman CB

Houston Texans
Jacoby Jones WR
Matt Leinart QB
Danieal Manning S
Johnathan Joseph CB
Kasey Studdard G
Mike Brisiel G
Brad Maynard P


Tennessee Titans
Matt Hasselbeck QB
Barrett Ruud LB
Shaun Smith DT
Daniel Graham TE


Denver Broncos
Matt Prater K
Willis McGahee RB
Eric Decker WR
David Anderson WR
Daneil Fells TE
Marcus Tomas DL
Dante Rosario TE

Broderick Bunkley DT
Ty Warren DT


Kansas City Chiefs
Steve Breaston WR
Jon McGraw S
Casey Weigmann C
Brandon Siler LB


San Diego Chargers
Eric Weddle S
Takeo Spikes LB
Billy Volek QB
Randy McMichael TE
Jeromey Clary T
Vincent Jackson WR (F)
Kelley Washington WR
Travis La'Boy LB
Mike Tolbert FB

Oakland Raiders
Jon Condo LS
Trent Edwards QB
Jarvis Moss DE
Michael Huff S
Stephen Hoyer OL





NFC

Greenbay Packers
Mason Crosby K
John Kuhn FB
James Jones WR


Chicago Bears
Vernon Ghoulston DE
Nick Roach LB
Caleb Haine QB
Sam Hurd WR
Anthony Adams DT
Marion Barber RB
Amobi Okoye DT
Roy Williams WR
Chris Spencer C


Detroit Lions
Dave Rayner K
Drew Stanton QB
John Wending S
Eric Wright CB
Dylan Gandy G
Maurice Leggett CB
Justin Durant
Chris Houston CB
Stephen Tulloch LB
Maurice Stovall WR


Minnesota Vikings
Donovan McNabb TRADE From Washington
Devin Aromashodu
Michael Jenkins WR
Fred Evans DT
Ryan Longwell K
Charlie Johnson OT/OG


Dallas Cowboys
Doug Free OT
Marcus Spears DE
Jason Hatcher DE


Washington Redskins
Santana Moss WR re-signed
Barry Cofield DT
Josh Wilson CB
Dante Stallworth WR
Jammal Brown T
Brandon Stokely WR
Josh Wilson CB
Stephen Bowen DT
HB Blades ILB
Phillip Buchanon CB

Tim Hightower RB

Philadelphia Eagles
Jason Babin DE
Vince Young QB
Nnamdi Asomugha CB
Cullen Jenkins DE/DT
Donald Lee TE
Johnny Lee-Higgins WR
Evan Mathis G
Ronnie Brown RB


New York Giants
David Baas G
Chris White C

Kevin Boothe G
Steve Weatherford P
David Carr QB
Chris White C
Ahmad Bradshaw RB
Michael Clayton WR


Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Quincy Black OLB
Jeremy Trueblood T
Davin Joseph G
Michael Koenen P

New Orleans Saints
Lance Moore WR
Darren Sproles RB
Roman Harper S
Danny Clark LB
Korey Hall FB
Pierson Prioleau S
Fabian Washington DB
Aubrayo Franklin DT


Carolina Panthers
Charles Johnson DE
DeAngelo Williams RB
Olindo Mare K
James Anderson LB
Thomas Davis LB
Ron Edwards DT
Omar Gaither LB
Derek Anderson "QB"

Greg Olsen TE TRADE

Atlanta Falcons
Stephen Nicholas OLB
Tyson Clabo T
Ray Edwards DE
Matt Bryant K
Justin Blalock G


San Francisco 49ers
Alex Smith QB re-signed
Ray McDonald DE
David Akers K
Madieu Williams S
Antwan Applewhite LB


Seattle Seahawks
Tavaris Jackson QB
Sidney Rice WR

Brandon MeBane DT
Robert Gallery G
LeRoy Hill LB
Brandon Coutu K
Alan Branch DT
Kelly Jennings CB
Zach Miller TE


Arizona Cardinals
Kevin Kolb QB TRADE from Philadelphia
Jeff King TE
DAnthony Batiste T
Stephen Spach TE
Duce Lutui G
Reagan Maui'a FB
Chansi Stuckey WR

Hamza Abdullah S
Floyd Womack G
Richard Marshall CB

Stewart Bradley LB
Todd Heap TE

Vonnie Holiday DE

St Louis Rams
Quentin Mikell S
Darren Colledge G
Al Harris CB
Zac Diles LB
Harvey Dahl G
Justin Bannan DT
Mike Sims-Walker WR
Daniel Muir DT



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News before the FA period begins: [place holder post]

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Panthers will be willing to pay free agent DeAngelo Williams market value in order to retain him.

Gantt admits the Panthers' position doesn't make much sense with Jonathan Stewart and Mike Goodson ready to go, but insists that they won't lose Williams "because of cash." If Williams walks to the Broncos or elsewhere, Gantt believes it will just be because he wants out of Charlotte. From a fantasy perspective, Williams' landing spot will have the most impact in all of free agency.
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Originally Posted by Steve Reed on Twitter posted:
Jerry Richardson said the Panthers will be "aggressive" in free agency, both signing their own players and those from other teams.
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Originally Posted by Adam Schefter
"Larry Hardesty from ESPN NY 1050 reports former Jets nose tackle Kris Jenkins soon will announce his retirement."
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If Carson Palmer and Chad Ochocinco aren't on the [bengals] roster, the payroll goes to $60 million, and Brown will be forced to spend $46.8 million just to reach the league's new cash floor.
Darin Gannt it reporting there may be some tampering involving an unnamed Panthers player. The only thing he confirmed is it wasn't DeAngelo.

Rumor is it's atlanta and Charles Johnson.


new post lockout news
Word out of Miami is that NYG free agent RB Bradshaw has landed there today [monday], negotiations cannot begin until tomorrow [tuesday]. So don't expect to hear more till then.

Released players:
Bears
Brad Maynard (P)

Eagles
David Aikers (K) - technically not a release, his transition tag no long applies

Ravens
Kelly Gregg (DT)
Todd Heap (TE)
Willis McGahee (RB)
Derrick Mason (WR)

Packers
Nick Barnett (ILB)

Cincinatti
Carson Palmer (QB, retired)

Cowboys
Marion Barber (RB)
Roy Williams (WR)
Mark Columbo
Leonard Davis

Cardinals
Derek Anderson
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From ESPNs John Clayton http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/67...cid=espn-twttr

Projected Cap room alphabetically based on the proposed CBA:

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Arizona $37.3 million under
Atlanta $13.9 million under
Baltimore $5.33 million under
Buffalo $35.9 million under
Carolina $30.6 million under
Chicago $37. million under
Cincinnati $35.9 million under
Cleveland $33.3 million under
Dallas $18.9 million over
Denver $1 million under
Detroit $16.6 million under
Green Bay $62,600 under
Houston $7.6 million under
Indianapolis $2.7 million over
Jacksonville $31.4 million under
Kansas City $34.3 million under
Miami $13.6 million under
Minnesota $5.1 million over
New England $7.57 million under
New Orleans $11.7 million under
N.Y. Giants $11.3 million over
N.Y. Jets $1.2 million over
Oakland $10 million over

Philadelphia $13 million under
Pittsburgh $10 million over
San Diego $19.4 million under
San Francisco $18.9 million under
Seattle $39 million under
St. Louis $35.6 million under
Tampa Bay $59.2 million under
Tennessee $10.3 million under
Washington $10.6 million under
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With all that cap space, it makes me wonder if the Bengals will be a surprise landing spot for a big name free agent or two. Maybe a big name RB and/or top O-lineman.
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Keep in mind those figures don't take into account draft picks (and UDFAs) signing OR restricted free agents (or, I assume, franchised players).
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Keep in mind those figures don't take into account draft picks (and UDFAs) signing OR restricted free agents (or, I assume, franchised players).
Not true, the figure for the Colts includes Manning's tag.
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Not true, the figure for the Colts includes Manning's tag.
Assumed incorrectly - I guess because those transactions occurred prior to the lockout.
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Not true, the figure for the Colts includes Manning's tag.
This tenders count as soon as they're placed on a player, not after they're signed. This is to stop it being used as a loophole to hide cap numbers.

Interesting thing is there is a cap floor. Tampa is going to have to almost sign another team. With their depth just about everywhere I can see them picking up one or two players for good money and extending a lot of their young players who're already producing beyond their deals.

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The NFL's free agency and opening of training camps are scheduled to kick off Wednesday, July 27.
Both are contingent on players ratifying the global agreement Thursday night and recertifying by next Tuesday. Commissioner Roger Goodell and attorney Jeff Pash are proceeding as if there is an understanding on both sides. College free agency and the conditional signing of rookie draft picks are scheduled to begin at 2:00 p.m. on Saturday, July 23.
I assume Saturday - Tuesday will also be for re-signing your own FAs. Not many are expected to re-sign during that period. Most will likely test the market considering how crazy it's going to be. Wednesday is going to be fun.
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See above, on the 23rd they can negotiate so it's likely the guys like Aso, Charles Johnson, Peyton Manning will be getting their balls tickled all day on the 23rd allowing their teams a full 4 days to consider whether or not they want to match or beat offers from other teams (should their players disclose details).

imo, we'll see some guys no longer available by the 27th, anyone who hasn't been signed by that day I'd assume won't be returning to their respective former teams.
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With all the Money the Bengals have to spend they better keep Joseph now or i am going to be pissed.
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See above, on the 23rd they can negotiate so it's likely the guys like Aso, Charles Johnson, Peyton Manning will be getting their balls tickled all day on the 23rd allowing their teams a full 4 days to consider whether or not they want to match or beat offers from other teams (should their players disclose details).

imo, we'll see some guys no longer available by the 27th, anyone who hasn't been signed by that day I'd assume won't be returning to their respective former teams.
Not necessarily. Some guys will simply test the market, really take visits and such seriously and then still return to their previous team. For example, there is no way in hell Santonio Holmes signs during the 3-day window but could very well end up back with the Jets after he hears offers from other teams. Same with guys like DeAngelo.
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Not necessarily. Some guys will simply test the market, really take visits and such seriously and then still return to their previous team. For example, there is no way in hell Santonio Holmes signs during the 3-day window but could very well end up back with the Jets after he hears offers from other teams. Same with guys like DeAngelo.
My feeling is a little conspiracy theorist but I believe a lot of guys will have been contacted one way or another already by suitors and there will have been guys in front offices working hard to get **** organised in regards to packages and offers so that once that period opens they can go guns blazing.

DeAngelo probably won't leave, see my post in the news, Jerry Richardson has openly been telling everyone fans, reporters everyone that the Panthers are going to be really aggressive.

Santonio is a merc he'll go to the highest bidder imo.
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See above, on the 23rd they can negotiate so it's likely the guys like Aso, Charles Johnson, Peyton Manning will be getting their balls tickled all day on the 23rd allowing their teams a full 4 days to consider whether or not they want to match or beat offers from other teams (should their players disclose details).

imo, we'll see some guys no longer available by the 27th, anyone who hasn't been signed by that day I'd assume won't be returning to their respective former teams.
Oakland seriously can't afford to resign Aso. They're already way over the cap and only have a few big contracts that could be renegotiated to lower thier total. I think they realised their fate and that's why they gave big money to Routt.
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Here's a really interesting interview done with sports agent Ron Del Duca. He discusses some things that I hadn't even thought about regarding this upcoming Free Agency.

Here's a few highlights...

* All the agents have technically been decertified as well.
* Alot of puffery.
* Anybody can represent anyone at any price.
* There are no rules and regulations.
* People could potentially give "value" to players for being represented by them.
* There's already been alot of movement between agents and players.

The bulk of the FA talk begins at 4:47.

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2011/...nhall-lawsuit/
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My feeling is a little conspiracy theorist but I believe a lot of guys will have been contacted one way or another already by suitors and there will have been guys in front offices working hard to get **** organised in regards to packages and offers so that once that period opens they can go guns blazing.

DeAngelo probably won't leave, see my post in the news, Jerry Richardson has openly been telling everyone fans, reporters everyone that the Panthers are going to be really aggressive.

Santonio is a merc he'll go to the highest bidder imo.

Just because the Panthers are going to go hard after him doesn't mean he has to sign with you guys. It's not like it's the Panthers decision here. Somebody else is going to offer just as much as Carolina if not more.
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even after signing Peppers we still have 37 Million? Lets get a ******* OLINE
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Tampa are 60 mil under :\
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Eagles to sign a big name free agent...
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Just learned that by cutting Vince Young, Justin Gage and Chris Hope's contracts... the Titans will be about 30 million under the new CBA.
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The big winners in this are teams that already pretty much have a whole team that will just be upgrading certain spots and signing current players to extensions. The Chiefs will end up looking really good once free agency hits.
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That is good to bad their are no good safeties out there.
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That is good to bad their are no good safeties out there.
Eric Weddle begs to differ! There are some other quality options as well such as Quintin Mikell and Dawan Landry. Michael Huff, Danieal Manning, and Donte Whitner are on the next level down.
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Bears are $37 Million under? Resign Danieal Manning, grab one of the top guards, and then go after either Sidney Rice or a corner.
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