Question about Green Bay's Pick at 16 - Page 2

johbur · 03-31-2007, 08:05 PM

I am an Olsen fan. He posted solid numbers in college with a mediocre QB. He's not a great blocker, but it's easier to teach blocking than it is to teach speed and catching, which Olsen does well. I like Olsen at #16 a lot, though I've seen plenty of mocks where he goes a couple selections in front of the Packers. A number of Packers fans think that Bubba and crew can get better, which is a good thought as the TE spot was terrible last year so getting better likely just due to default.

I am not for any of this crop of WRs at 16 anymore, unless it's CJ. If they could trade down and get Bowe or Jarrett, fine. I think WR is deep enough that they could get some guys in later rounds, which TT has a proven track record of doing.

I think the value is better for a safety, or see if a CB fell. Laron Landry and Reggie Nelson are solid (or steals and Landry probably won't be there). Okoye likely to not be there. I'm not really all that excited about the middle selections for the Packers with regards to value at #16. I also like Adam Carriker to solidify the line, but he could be gone as well.

My mock posted in the Team Mocks:
Round One:
R1: Greg Olsen, Tight End, Miami
R2: Antonio Pittman, Running Back, Ohio St.
R3: John Wendling, Safety, Wyoming
R4: Jacoby Jones, Wide Receiver, Lane
R5: Travarous Bain, Corner Back, Hampton
R6: Andy Alleman, Offensive Guard, Akron
R7: Courtney Brown, Corner Back, Cal Poly
R7: Legedu Naanee, Wide Receiver, Boise St.
R7: Isaiah Stanback, Quarter Back (WR), Washington

So there's a Packers mock with Olsen and Pittman, filling need areas with players of good value.

bearsfan_51 · 03-31-2007, 08:10 PM

If the Packers take Antonio Pittman I will shake my fist vigorously in the air. You already took A.J Hawk. Stop taking all my favorite Buckeyes!! Take Ted Ginn Jr. Hell take Troy Smith.

GB12 · 03-31-2007, 09:19 PM

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Both guys are over 30. Corners are not long for this world. Not to mention that Woodson probably projects to safety better.

As for Frank Walker (previous post) I'd answer that but I haven't gotten up off the floor from laughing yet.

Olsen is a project because what is he? He's not a pure tight-end and I think anyone that tries to use him as such will do so at their own peril. It's actually unfortunate (well not for me cause I don't like the Packers) that they got rid of David Martin because he would be a good person to pair with Olsen. I don't think he can block in the box and they will need to find creative ways to get him off the line because most DE's could probably knock him on his ass as soon as the play starts.

Are you saying that martin can block? Because if he can i have not seen it.

princefielder28 · 03-31-2007, 09:23 PM

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Are you saying that martin can block? Because if he can i have not seen it.

I'm blind to it too

ny10804 · 03-31-2007, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

If the Packers take Antonio Pittman I will shake my fist vigorously in the air. You already took A.J Hawk. Stop taking all my favorite Buckeyes!! Take Ted Ginn Jr. Hell take Troy Smith.

OR, become a Packer fan.

PACKmanN · 03-31-2007, 09:45 PM

lol and when i was the frist person to put Olsen in the frist for the packers, everyone thought it was too early for him, i guess i was wrong huh, lol.

princefielder28 · 03-31-2007, 09:47 PM

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lol and when i was the frist person to put Olsen in the frist for the packers, everyone thought it was too early for him, i guess i was wrong huh, lol.

If you were going off his college performance then I guess there's a reason for people to laugh but following the combine there was no question that he belongs in round 1

Jim Jim · 03-31-2007, 10:15 PM

TT usually picks guys with good production, Olsen has a lot of potential but his agent and lack of production will not make him the pick for the Packers.

cuzifelt1ikeit · 04-01-2007, 09:27 AM

i hope we dont take olsen in the first. what a waste

M1Koter · 04-01-2007, 10:55 AM

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lol and when i was the frist person to put Olsen in the frist for the packers, everyone thought it was too early for him, i guess i was wrong huh, lol.

it still is

someone447 · 04-01-2007, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ny10804

OR, become a Packer fan.

He already secretly is.

neko4 · 04-01-2007, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cuzifelt1ikeit

i hope we dont take olsen in the first. what a waste

Yeah it would be a terrible waste considering Bubba dropped a trillion passes

cuzifelt1ikeit · 04-01-2007, 01:12 PM

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Yeah it would be a terrible waste considering Bubba dropped a trillion passes

the guy was a second round pick until he ran a 4.4 fourty. so tell me, how does someone go from 32+ to 16? straight line speed in shorts is WAY different then football speed. the fourty is the most overrated statistic come draft time. and that coming from you just makes it even more laughable, some of the stuff you say is stupid, theres other tight ends that we can get for better value, taking olsen at 16 is a terrible choice, if we trade down then maybe

princefielder28 · 04-01-2007, 02:54 PM

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the guy was a second round pick until he ran a 4.4 fourty. so tell me, how does someone go from 32+ to 16? straight line speed in shorts is WAY different then football speed. the fourty is the most overrated statistic come draft time. and that coming from you just makes it even more laughable, some of the stuff you say is stupid, theres other tight ends that we can get for better value, taking olsen at 16 is a terrible choice, if we trade down then maybe

Greg Olsen had to prove he had the physical skills b/c GMs knew that the QB sucked and they couldn't get him the ball

cuzifelt1ikeit · 04-01-2007, 03:27 PM

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Greg Olsen had to prove he had the physical skills b/c GMs knew that the QB sucked and they couldn't get him the ball

part of the skillset doesnt depend on the qb. such as pass and run blocking as well as route running. not to mention hands

princefielder28 · 04-01-2007, 03:29 PM

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part of the skillset doesnt depend on the qb. such as pass and run blocking as well as route running. not to mention hands

GMs had no clue how good his hands were b/c he never got the ball and when he did he made plays. He is a 1st round talent.

cuzifelt1ikeit · 04-01-2007, 03:51 PM

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GMs had no clue how good his hands were b/c he never got the ball and when he did he made plays. He is a 1st round talent.

im just not sold. i think he is shining because of the class this year

princefielder28 · 04-01-2007, 03:54 PM

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im just not sold. i think he is shining because of the class this year

Thats fine! Thats your opinion and I can understand why you feel that way