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Old 09-06-2011, 04:37 PM    (permalink
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Good to know the Titans will start 1-0.
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I guess I'm one of the few that thinks it was a good move to drop him. Granted, they should have done it earlier, but that team is going nowhere with him at QB. I don't even think he is average anymore and probably shouldn't be anything more than a back-up at this stage of his career.
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Yeah, but is McCown really going to give the franchise a better chance to win games than Garrard. Really, that entire team is awful except for Jones-Drew and maybe Mercedes Lewis. I didn't see Garrard play in the preseason, but was it really all on his shoulders?
I think it's a wash between Garrard and McCown, and I think McCown gives them a better situation to bring Gabbert along under.

They've never been happy with Garrard, and it's silly that it took this long to just dump him.
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Good to know the Titans will start 1-0.
Yeah but if McNown gets hurt early then Gabbert will be in there, on second thought congrats on being 1-0.
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lol, they better be 1-0.

Although in the past the Titans had a nasty habbit of making backup QBs look great. Rosenfels still gives me nightmares. Munchak will be tested very early on whether his team inherited this trait from Fisher.
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Yesss Luke McKown starter !!!!!

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Del Rio doesn't make roster decisions. Learn something before you speak.
Ugh, why would anyone listen to you with this kind of condescension. Anything on this topic that doesn't come directly from a player or the organization is speculation anyway.

That said, I don't believe there is any way the presumed starting QB gets released 2 days before the season without the head coach's input. That stretches the bounds of believability for me, if it's true you're veering into Al Davis territory, and that's not exactly the Occam's razor solution.

Sucks for Garrard, he's not exactly high on my list but never seemed like a bad guy and is now once again in a tricky situation. Del Rio was already all in with Gabbert so might as well bring him on.
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AP writer Mark Long tweeted that he asked a player if the team had lost confidence in David and the player said, "There was no confidence to be lost."

So there's more evidence to throw that "It will cause a problem in the locker room" that Niners fan was saying.
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Ugh, why would anyone listen to you with this kind of condescension. Anything on this topic that doesn't come directly from a player or the organization is speculation anyway.

That said, I don't believe there is any way the presumed starting QB gets released 2 days before the season without the head coach's input. That stretches the bounds of believability for me, if it's true you're veering into Al Davis territory, and that's not exactly the Occam's razor solution.

Sucks for Garrard, he's not exactly high on my list but never seemed like a bad guy and is now once again in a tricky situation. Del Rio was already all in with Gabbert so might as well bring him on.
It's condescension because I was frustrated that everyone who doesn't know a thing about the Jags or follow them at all becomes an expert. That guy then responded with condescension that wasn't even related to the topic so if you're the internet police, do it for everyone.
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Sucks for Garrard, he's not exactly high on my list but never seemed like a bad guy and is now once again in a tricky situation. Del Rio was already all in with Gabbert so might as well bring him on.
And what do you mean "all in with Gabbert?"
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So glad McCown is getting a start. I really thought he could be a serviceable guy in the NFL when he was in Tampa, he just never got a chance due to injury and Gruden's QB carousel.
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It's condescension because I was frustrated that everyone who doesn't know a thing about the Jags or follow them at all becomes an expert. That guy then responded with condescension that wasn't even related to the topic so if you're the internet police, do it for everyone.
The problem is that Jag fans think their front office works in special ways. Other than wasting a gluttony of draft picks on small school guys who should mostly be UDFA's, they aren't any different. Most NFL teams have a personnel guy with final say on roster moves. To think that personnel man wouldn't be relying significantly on the input of the head coach is, quite frankly, stupid.

So I "know" how the Jags' front office works because I know how most NFL teams work.
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The problem is that Jag fans think their front office works in special ways. Other than wasting a gluttony of draft picks on small school guys who should mostly be UDFA's, they aren't any different. Most NFL teams have a personnel guy with final say on roster moves. To think that personnel man wouldn't be relying significantly on the input of the head coach is, quite frankly, stupid.

So I "know" how the Jags' front office works because I know how most NFL teams work.
Given how well a number of those picks have worked out I would have to say that that statement is completely false and moronic.
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AP writer Mark Long tweeted that he asked a player if the team had lost confidence in David and the player said, "There was no confidence to be lost."

So there's more evidence to throw that "It will cause a problem in the locker room" that Niners fan was saying.
So one anonymous player speaks for the Jaguars entire team?
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Given how well a number of those picks have worked out I would have to say that that statement is completely false and moronic.
Terrance Knighton (who went to Temple - small school still FCS), Rashad Jennings, Deji Karim...and that's about it.

Larry Hart and Scotty McGee got cut. Zach Miller sucks at blocking and can't stay off the training table. Austen Lane has yet to do anything. Ditto for Dillard. We'll see about Shorts...could be a decent pick. Derek Cox has been downright terrible at times, we'll see if he can bounce back with improved safety play.

Not exactly completely false or moronic.
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Terrance Knighton (who went to Temple - small school still FCS), Rashad Jennings, Deji Karim...and that's about it.

Larry Hart and Scotty McGee got cut. Zach Miller sucks at blocking and can't stay off the training table. Austen Lane has yet to do anything. Ditto for Dillard. We'll see about Shorts...could be a decent pick. Derek Cox has been downright terrible at times, we'll see if he can bounce back with improved safety play.

Not exactly completely false or moronic.

Couldn't have said it better. His small school picks have not panned out.
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This could have been handled better.

Anyway, Gabbert sucks. I don't believe in Gabbert.
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It's condescension because I was frustrated that everyone who doesn't know a thing about the Jags or follow them at all becomes an expert. That guy then responded with condescension that wasn't even related to the topic so if you're the internet police, do it for everyone.
Numerous people covering the Jags are noting today that Garrard had a 3-interception practice on Monday, and Jack Del Rio told Smith that night that he couldn't win with Garrard.

So whose decision was it again?
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Big question is now: who will pick up Garrard? 49ers? Panthers? Colts? Vikings? Seattle?
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Word is that he's considering retirement.
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I havent heard that. hmm.

All I know is Seattle isnt interested.
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I still would love him as a back up in Baltimore for a year.
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