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Old 09-10-2011, 01:52 PM    (permalink
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Argumentative is probably the "nice" way to describe him. Some people are addicted to arguing and will take whatever side or angle they can to get one going, within reason. Combine that with being emotionally charged, and you have someone who likes to argue who starts to have a personal attachment to a particular side in an argument - the side originally taken being influenced by a whole range of factors.

They then find whatever ways they can to be "right" as much as they can on this side - tiny battles here and there. Often the outcome is the argument (in the case of the OP, the real base argument is about Rodgers in general) keeps getting more and more specific each time and there is no real right or wrong - sorta like how it's impossible to truly measure distance exactly because there is always going to be a more accurate unit, so you can keep going deeper and deeper, more and more magnified, and never stop.

If the opposing arguer really stood back and realized what he was arguing against, it would often be too silly to waste time on, but it's an easy trap to fall into.
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If the opposing arguer really stood back and realized what he was arguing against, it would often be too silly to waste time on, but it's an easy trap to fall into.
And in this case, the opposing side is paid to keep egging Skip on, so they willing walk into the trap.
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Yeah, who would think a TV personality would try to say things to get you to stop changing the channel and watch. There's a lot of 'trolls' on TV. ;)
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Love Skip...if I was arguing with him though...i'd prolly stab him before it ended lmao he's just so funny to watch.
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I mean come on, I can't respect a guy who is throwing stuff out he doesn't even believe. Oh yea, let's trash Rodgers on a few throws he made because he didn't go 34/34 and throw 5 TD's right? Let's call his performance a B and point out how many points they scored in the 2nd half like this is Arena League football and they should score 50 points.


He wants all the credit in the world when he's right on something and will bring it up show after show years after the fact, and when he's wrong he finds a way to turn it around to where he was still right after all. Then he has to say something incorrect, that's obviously controversial to get attention. Cool.


It's not about just being "politically correct". At least with Charles Barkley he says outlandish controversial things but he believes them, majority of them make sense and he's more then once owned up to what he was wrong about. Skip says and does things to be different, and he lets his emotion get in the way too often on topics when he doesn't personally like a player.
Yes. This. Bravo sir.
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has anyone ever read any of his pre-ESPN stuff? I mean, was he a troll before this?

He might actually just be a guy with a really weird life perspective.
Yes. He's always been a troll. Guys like him and Jason Whitlock say stupid **** to draw a reaction - which sells papers and draws audiences.
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Yes. He's always been a troll. Guys like him and Jason Whitlock say stupid **** to draw a reaction - which sells papers and draws audiences.
Whitlock is legitimately ******** though. Skip is actually really intelligent and, while he's always been a troll, he has become an uber-troll because ESPN pays him to be that.
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I'd agree with that. Whitlock probably really does mean what he says. He is an idiot. Skip is just a really good troll. And I hate both.
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I'd agree with that. Whitlock probably really does mean what he says. He is an idiot. Skip is just a really good troll. And I hate both.
And that is why most people watch. It's like the Yankees in baseball. There is no one indifferent towards the Yankees, everyone either hates them or loves them. And in either case, you watch them, even if it is to see them lose.
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Whitlock is FAR worse than Bayless. The Whitlock flowchart eventually comes down to the race card no matter what....even if it doesn't make sense for it to. He's very creative with the ways he manages to sneak it in though, points for that.

I would pay money to see them on the same show.
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Oh god Jason Whitlock is terrible. That fat **** should burn in hell for the garbage he has been writing the past few years. Ya know, after he takes Jeff George's dick out of his mouth.
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I can't stand Skip Bayless. I'll never forget the time when an employee that worked in the front office in the Philadelphia Eagles tweeted how displeased he was to see the Eagles let Brian Dawkins go a few years ago and got fired for it.

Then, on 1st and 10, Bayless said it's because he was a "nobody". Like come on. Little ruthless there huh?
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He is a troll and exaggerates his views for TV.

'Owens isn't a hall of famer' LOL
He blew up in SF and they got rid of him. No, he was a FA. And Baltimore wanted him but Philly got him. He blew up Philly. Dallas wanted him. Then Dallas bet on the 20 something Roy Williams over 30 something TO. Didn't work out. 2 more teams and was their most productive WR.

Would take Irvin over Rice.
And Irvin was as much a ME ME ME guy as Owens ever was. He sat down and told Jim Rome about demanding balls in the Pro Bowl to help him get him a contract.
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At least his brother is a great chef.
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idk whats wrong with what he said? He did come across as an arrogant prick.
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I've ate at Rick Bayless's restaurant in Chicago, it was pretty incredible.
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Oh god Jason Whitlock is terrible. That fat **** should burn in hell for the garbage he has been writing the past few years. Ya know, after he takes Jeff George's dick out of his mouth.
Ok, but to be fair, George had an incredible arm.



I mean, look at that ****. Into the wind, flicking the ball like it's nothing.
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Also, Jason Whitlock played on the same high school team as Jeff George.
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Whitlock was a D1 offensive lineman. What do you think happens to most lineman when they stop playing? They either lose 100 pounds (Mark Schlereth, Mike Golic) or they get even fatter.
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It's so hard to picture him as an athlete. He looks like he's going to have a heart attack and the scrawny combover Kornheiser is about to die from AIDS/scurvy.
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Agreed. I think he has more fun talking about sports than anyone else in america.
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And that is why most people watch. It's like the Yankees in baseball. There is no one indifferent towards the Yankees, everyone either hates them or loves them. And in either case, you watch them, even if it is to see them lose.
Or you just say "**** Baseball, Go Cards (because **** cubs fans)" and just not give a **** about the Yankees?
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