New York Giants Discussion - Page 76

Giantsfan1080 · 09-21-2011, 11:05 AM

Sometimes you can only tell through MRI. If Hixon didn't feel that much pain then I don't see the problem. Heck he thought it was a calf injury.

Rosebud · 09-21-2011, 11:26 AM

Legitimately I think most of our receiving corps might be ********. Mario answered the questions wrong, Hixon thinks his calf is part of his knee, everybody other than Nicks is always in the wrong place, Barden thinks football players are paid to ride a bike, it's really sad that we don't have Steve Smith to raise hte collective IQ barely above functionally ********.

Giantsfan1080 · 09-21-2011, 11:34 AM

Actually Steve Smith pulled the same thing last year against the Vikings. He thought it was a calf injury also even though it was his knee.

bigbluedefense · 09-21-2011, 11:52 AM

You know what's sad?

I want to be upset, but it doesn't even bother me anymore. The way this season is playing out, half the team is going to land on IR by the end of the season anyway.

And while Nicks is a beast, I'm going to disagree with the notion that he's always in the right spot. That's actually not true. Nicks runs a wrong route every now and then as well.

For example, on a deep throw on Monday, Eli threw the fade and Nicks went post, and it looked like a wildly inaccurate ball to the untrained eye. But it was actually a sight error on Nicks' part. Wouldve been on the money if he ran to the right spot.

It was man with a safety up top. Eli read it right, the safety stayed home in the middle and Nicks got by his man on the release. Running the post made him run right into the safety. If he ran the fade like he was supposed to, it's 30-35 yards.

So the casual fan sees Eli throw an "inaccurate ball into double coverage". The truth is he did everything he was supposed to do but the WR made a mistake.

I hate this system. It's too complex for the average athlete. You need 11 coaches on the field to pull it off.

bigbluedefense · 09-21-2011, 11:55 AM

And can Antrelle Rolle ****?

I'm tired of this dumbass constantly running his mouth. We're in no position to talk. Cover your guy, stop giving the other team bulletin board material, and **** you dumb ****.

Giantsfan1080 · 09-21-2011, 11:56 AM

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And can Antrelle Rolle ****?

I'm tired of this dumbass constantly running his mouth. We're in no position to talk. Cover your guy, stop giving the other team bulletin board material, and **** you dumb ****.

I agree with everything you just said but they did do a good job on Jackson last year. Maybe this **** will get the secondary pumped or something.

bigbluedefense · 09-21-2011, 12:00 PM

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I agree with everything you just said but they did do a good job on Jackson last year. Maybe this **** will get the secondary pumped or something.

Maclin is going to insert his ____ into Aaron Ross all game long.

Webster can handle Jackson. Webster has been shutting him down when we leave Web in press man vs Jackson. He only hurts us when we don't play man. *sigh*

And Steve Smith is going to hurt us in the slot too. Don't think for a second that he didn't circle this game on his calendar.

Oh and Lady Gaga is pretty good too. Our hope is that we can run the ball to keep them off the field, and that our dline destroys their oline and Vick still can't read a blitz to save his life.

If those 3 things (plus no turnovers of our own) happen, we have a chance.

Who am I kidding? The biannual Asante Samuel interception bonanza of Eli Manning is going to be right on cue.

Jughead10 · 09-21-2011, 12:04 PM

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Who am I kidding? The biannual Asante Samuel interception bonanza of Eli Manning is going to be right on cue.

Eli got him when it counted.

Giantsfan1080 · 09-21-2011, 12:06 PM

I actually think we have a good shot to take this game. I'd feel better offensively if we had a real TE though.

bigbluedefense · 09-21-2011, 12:11 PM

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Eli got him when it counted.

Yes he did, and I'm forever grateful for it. But ever since that SB Asante has owned Eli. That's a fact.

bigbluedefense · 09-21-2011, 12:11 PM

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I actually think we have a good shot to take this game. I'd feel better offensively if we had a real TE though.

To beat the Eagles, you gotta have a good run game, and a good TE.

They can't stop the run and they can't cover the TE. We have the run game, but no TE.

Giantsfan1080 · 09-21-2011, 12:16 PM

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To beat the Eagles, you gotta have a good run game, and a good TE.

They can't stop the run and they can't cover the TE. We have the run game, but no TE.

Run it 45 times.

BigBlueNorwegian · 09-21-2011, 12:25 PM

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I called it. Hixon out for the year with a torn ACL.

This is starting to get ******* annoying. This season is cursed. I'm seriously considering rooting for a piss poor record, a new coaching staff, training staff, you name it. We always have countless season ending injuries. Somethings gotta give, there has to be a training staff problem.

And totally agree with you about the Ph.D offense. It has to go. But Gilbride will never change it, so we have to convert to an offense like the one Green bay has or something like that. Eli would probably tear the whole NFL a new asshole with nicks, Manningham and a good TE in a normal offensive scheme.

well, at least there's only 217 days until the 2012 NFL draft.

bigbluedefense · 09-21-2011, 12:44 PM

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Run it 45 times.

You know we won't.

Should we? Of course. Will we? I'd bet the farm we won't.

Rosebud · 09-21-2011, 01:13 PM

I just can't help but see my hopes rise for this game. Bradford racked up yards on us last game but we came through in the redzone and made big plays to keep their impact on the scoreboard limited. That the type of thing the D can rally around and if the secondary doesn't suffer any more injuries they'll get better with the whole giving-up-yards-like-a-hooker-on-christmas thing. If we are successful running the ball we might get lucky on offense and not have any miscommunications resulting in easy turnovers for the iggles.

If all of that happens I think we'll win...

scottyboy · 09-21-2011, 01:38 PM

Jake ballard coming out party?
I'm really just at loss for words now. I know injuries are part of the game bit we've been decimated of late

NY+Giants=NYG · 09-21-2011, 01:47 PM

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Sometimes you can only tell through MRI. If Hixon didn't feel that much pain then I don't see the problem. Heck he thought it was a calf injury.

Exactly, if the patient is running around on the sideline and on the bike, and not dying in pain, then you would never know. The fact that they ordered the MRI and everything was a smart move, and it paid off because they saw the tear.

In other reports, Manningham tweaked his ACL in his cranium. He will be ok though. You just have to phrases everything as a true/false question.

NY+Giants=NYG · 09-21-2011, 01:48 PM

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You know we won't.

Should we? Of course. Will we? I'd bet the farm we won't.

Well in order for you to do that, you need to convert 3rd downs. That means more downs to run. And we have issues with that, so don't expect much. Plus if they eat up the zone, and score at a big time pace, then we won't stick to the run. We can't.. We would be in shoot out mode.

bigbluedefense · 09-22-2011, 08:29 AM

Any word on whether Beckum can suit up this week? I know he's a bum and all, but I'll take what I can get at this point.

bigbluedefense · 09-22-2011, 08:31 AM

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Well in order for you to do that, you need to convert 3rd downs. That means more downs to run. And we have issues with that, so don't expect much. Plus if they eat up the zone, and score at a big time pace, then we won't stick to the run. We can't.. We would be in shoot out mode.

Yeah I understand that. Eli is also a rhythm passer. I'd like us to start out the game with some simple throws just to get him going, but I know we like going vertical right away to "catch them off guard on PA pass"

And can we be any less original on our first play? Every single first play of every game is play action pass out of the iform. I think if you were to go back and chart how often we did that on the first play for the past 4 years, I think you can probably say it's been done 80% of the time.

Does anyone even fall for it anymore?

Giantsfan1080 · 09-22-2011, 09:29 AM

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Any word on whether Beckum can suit up this week? I know he's a bum and all, but I'll take what I can get at this point.

He had a limited practice yesterday even though he was supposed to go at it full speed.

Jughead10 · 09-22-2011, 09:30 AM

What was the final word on Manningham? Concussion or just dumb?

Giantsfan1080 · 09-22-2011, 09:34 AM

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What was the final word on Manningham? Concussion or just dumb?

I believe they did more tests but haven't heard anything. They'll probably find a brain the size of a squirrel's.

Giantsfan1080 · 09-22-2011, 12:37 PM

Osi and Manningham are both likely a no go for Sunday. They both didn't take part in practice today. We can't risk further brain damage to Mario or he'll only be able to run in a straight line.

JBCX · 09-22-2011, 01:07 PM

So do you guys think Nnamdi will be covering Nicks? Or will it be Asante?