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All in all it doesn't matter. I'm already looking forward to Landry Jones or Matt Barkley under center next year. This is Smith's last year thank goodness.
I'd rather have either of those guys than Kaepernick, too.
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I'd rather have either of those guys than Kaepernick, too.
I think a lot of folks have forgotten what's it's like to have a true franchise quarterback here. Some people are just content with mediocrity.
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Funny how you blame Gore instead of the offensive line for not being explosive, but blame the offensive line for Alex Smith not having a better game.
Lol, maybe because Gore fumbled and Kendall Hunter looked 3x more explosive when he came in. With Hunter we can even run outside once in a while, something Gore seems incapable of doing right now.
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I think a lot of folks have forgotten what's it's like to have a true franchise quarterback here. Some people are just content with mediocrity.
No niner fan I have met in the last 6 years has ever been content. No one is content, who sounds content over this crap? I haven't even met a niner fan who thinks Smith is any sort of long-term solution either (phlysac included)..but to blame him for the incompetence on Offense is sad, particularly in this game..it shows an extreme bias that is almost troubling.
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I think a lot of folks have forgotten what's it's like to have a true franchise quarterback here. Some people are just content with mediocrity.
when you've been subjected to horrid play for a long period of time, average play seems so much more than it really is.
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No niner fan I have met in the last 6 years has ever been content. No one is content, who sounds content over this crap? I haven't even met a niner fan who thinks Smith is any sort of long-term solution either (phlysac included)..but to blame him for the incompetence on Offense is sad, particularly in this game..it shows an extreme bias that is almost troubling.
No, it just shows honesty and admitting the truth, which is that Smith is a part of the problem and has been for seven years now. After seven years holding out hope for this person is ridiculous. He's just not very good. Believe it or not this is a reality for a lot of players. Some players are just not good no matter what, and Alex is one of them. Praising him for having a good game, which is quite average compared to the best quarterbacks in the NFL is being content with mediocrity. Especially when it's against a terrible team.
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when you've been subjected to horrid play for a long period of time, average play seems so much more than it really is.
Those folks need to watch some old NFL Yearbook or download some old games to break the spell.
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Lol, maybe because Gore fumbled and Kendall Hunter looked 3x more explosive when he came in. With Hunter we can even run outside once in a while, something Gore seems incapable of doing right now.
And perhaps replacing Alex with someone better would provide better results just like it did for Hunter.
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Alex Smith is nothing special but he's the best qb we got
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Alex Smith is nothing special but he's the best qb we got
True. Doesn't mean I have to like his average performances though. Staley is the best left tackle we have, but that's not saying much.
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True. Doesn't mean I have to like his average performances though. Staley is the best left tackle we have, but that's not saying much.
Alex Boone hasn't been given a shot yet. Can't be that much worse then Staley.
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I'd rather have either of those guys than Kaepernick, too.
I can not wait until the draft. FINALLY we are going to have someone else under center. And Jones and Barkley look real good. Hopefully we upgrade the offensive line too.
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lol unless we finish the season 6-10 or worse and Kaep has shown nothing we aren't selecting another QB.
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lol unless we finish the season 6-10 or worse and Kaep has shown nothing we aren't selecting another QB.
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I think a lot of folks have forgotten what's it's like to have a true franchise quarterback here. Some people are just content with mediocrity.
Or people aren't as short sighted as you. This team has 2 wins (with 5 games left against divisional opponents) in an extremely weak division. We are in sole possession of 1st place and Alex has done a solid job of keeping us in games. This team is showing signs of progress every week. Small steps but you it looks and feels like a well coached team with an idea of how to use their personnel.

We have a franchise QB in place:
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Citing multiple league sources, La Canfora says the 49ers were "persistent" in trying to acquire Kaepernick. Both San Francisco and Oakland had discussions with New England for the No. 33 pick, before the Pats called it off and settled on Ras-I Dowling. Ultimately, the 49ers wound up using the equivalent -- per the NFL Draft Value Chart -- of a first-rounder on Kaepernick anyhow (1,103.5 points, equal to a top-15 overall selection).
I find it funny you list how Brees, Rodgers, and Rivers as guys you wish SF had. Have you followed their careers? Rivers was the only guy to start more than five games as a rookie. No one wants to have patience these days.
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You can count me as one of those that would like to see Boone get a chance to show what he can do.
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Well we're in 1st place at 2-1.

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lol unless we finish the season 6-10 or worse and Kaep has shown nothing we aren't selecting another QB.
Why? Because we're set at quarterback?
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How did the team look today guys?I had to work and missed it.I'm glade we won tho!
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Why? Because we're set at quarterback?
Because we actually have some potential at QB, while we have almost none at safety, corner, and left tackle.
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Or people aren't as short sighted as you. This team has 2 wins (with 5 games left against divisional opponents) in an extremely weak division. We are in sole possession of 1st place and Alex has done a solid job of keeping us in games. This team is showing signs of progress every week. Small steps but you it looks and feels like a well coached team with an idea of how to use their personnel.
Or people are just content with mediocrity period. Yes we have two wins in the NFC West and we're in 1st place. So astonishing. Dang I bet you excited when we were 3-1 in 2009, or 2-1 in 2008, or 2-1 in 2007.

Alex has been a game manager. Start talking when he is putting up 30 points a game like we thought he would be doing when we drafted him, and not squeezing out wins against terrible teams.

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We have a franchise QB in place:
Kaepernick is not a franchise quarterback until he actually produces. No one is. And digging up a press article implies nothing, nor does it push your point. San Francisco went after Jim Drunkenmiller at one point. Doesn't mean he was a franchise quarterback because he was taken early. I guess the Panthers should have passed on Cam Newton because they "had" a franchise quarterback in place in Jimmy Clausen, who they took in the second round the previous year. If you feel like you can upgrade any position, you upgrade it.

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I find it funny you list how Brees, Rodgers, and Rivers as guys you wish SF had. Have you followed their careers? Rivers was the only guy to start more than five games as a rookie. No one wants to have patience these days.
Bottom line is that they've actually done something with their careers after being in the NFL for seven seasons. And when you have guys like Ryan, Stafford, Flacco, Rodgers, Freeman, and Newton producing in their first or second seasons as starters it's a little hard to be patient. Especially when you've been stuck with the same guy for seven years. Yeah seven years is really being impatient. And I don't think it's just me wishing we had those guys. I'm sure the majority of the 49ers fanbase would rather have any of those three I mentioned. Because they are simply better quarterbacks bottom line.
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Our front seven in general has been good. A bit more consistent pressure and a pedestrian secondary would be able to hold better against some of those pass plays that are hurting too often.
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Because we actually have some potential at QB, while we have almost none at safety, corner, and left tackle.
What potential have you seen? No one has proven anything. Especially Kaepernick. You can apply "potential" to practically any player in the NFL. Culliver has potential, Boone has potential, Hunter has potential. Doesn't mean we are "set" at those positions.
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Okay so you're basically saying since Kaep hasn't taken the starting QB job and shown he's a top 5 QB in the league, QB is a 1st round need.
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Okay so you're basically saying since Kaep hasn't taken the starting QB job and shown he's a top 5 QB in the league, QB is a 1st round need.
No. I'm saying that if you feel you can upgrade a position at any point in time, you upgrade it. If Andrew Luck is sitting there for the 49ers to take him, are you telling me you don't take him because Kaepernick hasn't seen the field yet or has barely played?
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