The Coaching Change Thread - Page 3

T-RICH49 · 11-28-2011, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ATLDirtyBirds

I'm far from plugged into the situation, but I think Haley survives.

I have a hard time seeing Haley survive unless a miracle happens

vidae · 11-29-2011, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ATLDirtyBirds

I'm far from plugged into the situation, but I think Haley survives.

Ehhh, honestly I think it's 50/50 right now. I'm not sure we'll win another game this year, and going 4-3 to 4-12 should get any HC fired, but I like Haley so I hope it doesn't happen.

He needs to either call the plays himself or hire someone he can get along with to do it. This rotating OC situation is just ridiculous and needs to stop.

Giantsfan1080 · 11-29-2011, 07:23 AM

Jack Del Rio fired according to ESPN.

diabsoule · 11-29-2011, 08:23 AM

According to Pete Prisco: Del Rio lost his drive, according to sources. Started coming in to office at 9 a.m or so. Team hated it. Coaches hated it.

NY+Giants=NYG · 11-29-2011, 09:20 AM

Job Posting: HC for the NYG. Must be a defensive HC, and be able to be VERY aggressive. Must have prior HCing experience. Must hire a great offensive minded HC, who won't create a system where the WRs need a PHd to run the routes and choice and option routes.

Please send all resumes to John Mara. Thanks!

bucfan12 · 11-29-2011, 10:07 AM

Coaches who get canned...

- Norv Tuner SD
- Jim Caldwell IND
- Jack Del Rio JAX (already fired)
- Raheem MOrris TB
- Andy Reid PHI

Guys who I think survive another year:
- Todd Haley KC
- Tony Sparano MIA (they have been playing very well and I think they're a better team with a better QB.)

Replacements:
- Jeff Fisher to Philadelpia
- Perry Fewell to Tampa Bay
- Mike Zimmer to Jaxsonville
- Rob Ryan to San Diego
- Andy Reid to Indianapolis

jrdrylie · 11-29-2011, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by bucfan12

Guys who I think survive another year:
- Tony Sparano MIA (they have been playing very well and I think they're a better team with a better QB.)

Replacements:
- Mike Zimmer to Jaxsonville

How can Sparano last another year? They tried with all their might to dump him last year for Harbaugh. When that fell through, they begrudgingly kept him. And that was after a 7-9 season. Best case scenario, they go 6-10, which last time I checked, that is worse than 7-9. So they try to fire you, fail, you have an even worse season, and get to keep your job? That does not compute.

I think Zimmer is a terrible hire. Jacksonville needs to hire an offensive minded coach. After 15 years of being a run first, run second, pass only if you have to team, fans are ready for an offensive revival. I'm pulling for Joe Philbin.

NY+Giants=NYG · 11-29-2011, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bucfan12

Coaches who get canned...

- Norv Tuner SD
- Jim Caldwell IND
- Jack Del Rio JAX (already fired)
- Raheem MOrris TB
- Andy Reid PHI

Guys who I think survive another year:
- Todd Haley KC
- Tony Sparano MIA (they have been playing very well and I think they're a better team with a better QB.)

Replacements:
- Jeff Fisher to Philadelpia
- Perry Fewell to Tampa Bay
- Mike Zimmer to Jaxsonville
- Rob Ryan to San Diego
- Andy Reid to Indianapolis

I doubt Fewell would get a Hcing job after this season. He is a god awful DC! Tim Lewis got hired and hasn't sniffed a DC job after being with us. I don't think Fewell gets a HCing gig. You think a team will hire him after his defense got bent over with a 577 yard performance!

I feel sorry for a team who hires him.

bucfan12 · 11-29-2011, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jrdrylie

How can Sparano last another year? They tried with all their might to dump him last year for Harbaugh. When that fell through, they begrudgingly kept him. And that was after a 7-9 season. Best case scenario, they go 6-10, which last time I checked, that is worse than 7-9. So they try to fire you, fail, you have an even worse season, and get to keep your job? That does not compute. I think Zimmer is a terrible hire. Jacksonville needs to hire an offensive minded coach. After 15 years of being a run first, run second, pass only if you have to team, fans are ready for an offensive revival. I'm pulling for Joe Philbin.

They gave Sparono an extension last year. Plus, this team has done a nice turnaround to the point, if they continue this play the rest of the year, it'd be hard to fire him.

jrdrylie · 11-29-2011, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bucfan12

They gave Sparono an extension last year. Plus, this team has done a nice turnaround to the point, if they continue this play the rest of the year, it'd be hard to fire him.

They went 7-9 last year. They would have to go 4-1 to match that this year. That is not a nice turnaround.

bucfan12 · 11-29-2011, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jrdrylie

They went 7-9 last year. They would have to go 4-1 to match that this year. That is not a nice turnaround.

Yeah, well then they're on the hook for the 3 year extension they gave him after they failed to get Harbaugh. Not gonna be able to pay 2 coaches like that, if they're improving. I think they may give him another year, and grab a QB.

jrdrylie · 11-29-2011, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bucfan12

Yeah, well then they're on the hook for the 3 year extension they gave him after they failed to get Harbaugh. Not gonna be able to pay 2 coaches like that, if they're improving. I think they may give him another year, and grab a QB.

Actually, it's only a two year extension through 2013 for about $3 million a year. That isn't all that much in the grand scheme of things.

bucfan12 · 11-29-2011, 11:21 AM

What are all your takes on SD Special Teams Coordinator Rich Bassacia as a head coaching candidate? I've seen guys like Gruden and Mayock praise him and wonder how he hasn't been interviewed for Head Coaching jobs.

Some have speculated why Morris was given the job over him in 2009, resulting in him leaving. I always thought he'd be a head coach someday. He just has the knack for it. Brings discipline, motivator, smart, and relates to the players.

diabsoule · 11-29-2011, 11:39 AM

The Colts have fired defensive coordinator Larry Coyer

Da-Phins · 11-29-2011, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by diabsoule

The Colts have fired defensive coordinator Larry Coyer

Yeah like thats going to help....

SolidGold · 11-29-2011, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by diabsoule

The Colts have fired defensive coordinator Larry Coyer

They need to fire Caldwell and bring in a competent coaching staff. Caldwell got the job pretty unfair, not sure why the Colts would let Dungy dictate who the coach in waiting would be just like Mora Jr. was picked by Holmgren when he left seattle.

Why would any organization do this?

falloutboy14 · 11-29-2011, 12:37 PM

Before Dungy left, Caldwell was getting HC interviews around the league. At that point, they gave Caldwell a new contract basically assuring him he'd be the next head coach. Dungy may have chosen him, but the Colts made sure he didn't have a chance to look elsewhere.

jrdrylie · 11-29-2011, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by falloutboy14

Before Dungy left, Caldwell was getting HC interviews around the league. At that point, they gave Caldwell a new contract basically assuring him he'd be the next head coach. Dungy may have chosen him, but the Colts made sure he didn't have a chance to look elsewhere.

Was he getting interviews because he was a serious candidate or because teams are required to interview a minority? Because it is very rare that a coach without any coordinating experience gets an NFL job.

TimmG6376 · 11-29-2011, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SolidGold

They need to fire Caldwell and bring in a competent coaching staff. Caldwell got the job pretty unfair, not sure why the Colts would let Dungy dictate who the coach in waiting would be just like Mora Jr. was picked by Holmgren when he left seattle.

Why would any organization do this?

From the Colts perspective they were a successful franchise with a HOF QB running a system catered to him. The guy taking over for Dungy had to be willing to maintain the status quo. Most guys looking for a HC job from outside would have wanted to bring in their own philosophy and do it their way. I can completely understand why the Colts would promote from within.

The Seahawks are a whole different story. Coming off of a 4-12 season, you would think you'd be looking for someone to change things up.

JBCX · 11-29-2011, 01:11 PM

When is Andy Reid going to be fired?

killxswitch · 11-29-2011, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jrdrylie

Was he getting interviews because he was a serious candidate or because teams are required to interview a minority? Because it is very rare that a coach without any coordinating experience gets an NFL job.

My guess is it's a mix of the two, but after talking with him I doubt any team was seriously interested.

diabsoule · 11-29-2011, 03:34 PM

ESPN's Chris Mortensen on Rams HC Steve Spagnuolo's job security: "I do believe it's going to be tough for Spags to keep his job."

asdf1223 · 11-29-2011, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TimmG6376

From the Colts perspective they were a successful franchise with a HOF QB running a system catered to him. The guy taking over for Dungy had to be willing to maintain the status quo. Most guys looking for a HC job from outside would have wanted to bring in their own philosophy and do it their way. I can completely understand why the Colts would promote from within.

The Seahawks are a whole different story. Coming off of a 4-12 season, you would think you'd be looking for someone to change things up.

Mike Holmgren didn't pick Jim Mora. Tim Ruskell the GM did. Holmgren suggested throughout his last year that he didn't like the whole coach in waiting idea.

Brodeur · 11-29-2011, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by falloutboy14

Before Dungy left, Caldwell was getting HC interviews around the league. At that point, they gave Caldwell a new contract basically assuring him he'd be the next head coach. Dungy may have chosen him, but the Colts made sure he didn't have a chance to look elsewhere.

Rooney rule interview.

soybean · 11-29-2011, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by diabsoule

The Colts have fired defensive coordinator Larry Coyer

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Originally Posted by Da-Phins

Yeah like thats going to help....

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Originally Posted by SolidGold

Why would any organization do this?

definitely a scapegoat move to appease the fans.

in related news, curtis painter is officially benched as well.