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Old 10-30-2011, 02:03 AM    (permalink
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Jason White put up those kind of numbers in the Oklahoma offense, how's he doing? Sam Bradford isn't looking that great either this year. Landry is a top 20 prospect, but he isn't the franchise QB prospect some make him out to be.
Your post is extremely contradictory...

How can a QB be a Top 20 prospect and not be considered a franchise QB? If you're drafting a QB in the First Round, that's your franchise. Also, QBs are either at the very top of the rankings, or not on the rankings at all, imo.

I'd start looking at Jones in the 3rd round (depending on the team) as a backup.
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Sam Bradford isn't looking that great either this year.

The Rams offensive line and wide receivers would make Tom Brady look like garbage too.
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At times Jones looked very good yesterday. I really liked the TD pass to the TE down the seam in I think the 3rd quarter. In saying that he wasn't pressured at all all day. Some throws were not great and the offense helps. I still think he's a top 10 pick but Barkley helped himself more yesterday than Jones despite the numbers
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He has top 20 potential...Next year. When Geno Smith and Brock Osweisler will push him back to the middle of the first round again.
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He completely regressed during the latter half of the year.
Seriously, after that Bedlam game fiasco, he almost should come back next year as I don't think he could hurt his stock anymore, but has a lot to gain.
Before the season, I claimed he's a 1st round pick that could push his way to top 10/top 5 depending on his play. Throughout the beginning of the season, he was looking to me going more top 15/top 10. Then it spiraled down to latter half of the 1st round, and now I don't have a clue where he could go. He has the tools, he just needs a coach to really coach him up and have him sit for a year or two and then I think he could be a pretty darn good QB.
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Again I repeat, Stoops is a weak HC who depends on far superior talent to win games. When Stoops comes up against an equally talented team, his won and loss record is below average.
This simple fact has brought a lot of Oklahoma players problems in the draft because their abilities doesn't always match the overall team's efforts.
While I agree that Jones has had problems this year in his consistency, I always wonder if this is totally his fault or another case of Stoops having his team play below their potential.
If he declares, I will be very interested to see how he functions in the post season completely away from his HC. The Combine could still see this prospect go pretty high in round 1, if he can demonstrate much greater consistency during the post season process. If he cannot overcome his inconsistencies then I can see a substantial drop in his draft worth, but I need to see a lot more before I write him off.
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Case Keenum would have been a star at OU. So would Matt Barkley and Andrew Luck.

It's really hard for lay people who follow the draft like all of us to evaluate OU quarterbacks because any starting QB playing for the Sooners is annually surrounded by some of the best prep talent in college football.
Like some others I was high on Landry Jones before the start of the season and had a hard time watching his game regress.

Something isn't there that should be for a potential top 10 franchise QB. His stats this year were virtually identical to Tannehill's, except that Landry Jones had more attempts and completions.

My baseline for OU quarterbacks before I attempt to evaluate their overall game is that I expect them to execute Stoops' offense at a Jason WHite/Bradford level. Landry Jones this year has not and much of the fault IMO is his own lack of execution.

Not throwing for a TD against Iowa State and showing up small in OU's biggest games this season is not a good sign for Jones.

I still think Jones can develop into an NFL starter but I no longer see any elite qualities about him, other than an NFL caliber arm.
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Part of Landry Jones' stat problem is Blake Bell.
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Part of Landry Jones' stat problem is Blake Bell.
That's just it.

If Landry Jones were executing at truly an elite level in Bob Stoops' mind I don't think the Sooners would have this 'wrinkle' in their playbook. Just my opinion.

But yeah it does hurt Jones that whenever the Sooners get to the five yard line a goal line specialist comes in.
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Jones should stay in school, but the lure of being a top 15 pick could make Landry come out. He's clearly behind Luck, Barkley, RG3 and Wilson IMO.
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Jones should stay in school, but the lure of being a top 15 pick could make Landry come out. He's clearly behind Luck, Barkley, RG3 and Wilson IMO.
I think that the temptation of coming out increases greatly if 1 or 2 of those guys decide to come back. I could see Barkley & Wilson looking to stay for another year, and then being the #3 QB looks pretty good. A lot of teams need QBs and I'm sure that 3 guys will probably go sometime in the first.
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Just remember some of Ponder and Locker's disasterous performances last year when speculating that Landry will fall too far.
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Just remember some of Ponder and Locker's disasterous performances last year when speculating that Landry will fall too far.
The difference is that both Ponder and Locker have much better tools than Landry. Landry just flat out isn't an NFL caliber QB. I've watched him many times and he's just so average. Tony Pike 2.0.
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The difference is that both Ponder and Locker have much better tools than Landry. Landry just flat out isn't an NFL caliber QB. I've watched him many times and he's just so average. Tony Pike 2.0.
You mean tools like bigger and stronger don't count? Or, much more passing experience? Or, just as good an arm?
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Part of Landry Jones' stat problem is Blake Bell.
I think Blake Bell might push Landry Jones out of Oklahoma early. Tool wise he is the prototype QB but his lackluster senior season will drop him down draft boards. I really do not see much of a difference between Jones and Bradford, how Bradford went #1 is fairly puzzling.
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The difference is that both Ponder and Locker have much better tools than Landry. Landry just flat out isn't an NFL caliber QB. I've watched him many times and he's just so average. Tony Pike 2.0.
Jones has a very strong arm and has pretty good accuracy - not great accuracy but good accuracy. He has made impressive throws but I think he missed Broyles once he blew his ACL.
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He'll be drafted high because he passes the eye test as a passer with good size and a good arm.

But I wouldn't touch him. Let some other team have a less-terrible Blaine Gabbert.
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But I wouldn't touch him. Let some other team have a less-terrible Blaine Gabbert.
Funny you should mention Gabbert because his huge game vs. Iowa in the Insight Bowl last year all but sealed his decision to leave early.

Jones gets to face a much worse Iowa defense this bowl season. I expect him to put up ridiculous numbers and declare right after that. And everyone will use that huge game as support for how great they think he is.
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Funny you should mention Gabbert because his huge game vs. Iowa in the Insight Bowl last year all but sealed his decision to leave early.

Jones gets to face a much worse Iowa defense this bowl season. I expect him to put up ridiculous numbers and declare right after that. And everyone will use that huge game as support for how great they think he is.
Haha, that'll be funny. I'm just glad my team isn't picking in the top 10 in need of a QB.
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Jones should stay in school, but the lure of being a top 15 pick could make Landry come out. He's clearly behind Luck, Barkley, RG3 and Wilson IMO.
Wilson? Really?

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The difference is that both Ponder and Locker have much better tools than Landry. Landry just flat out isn't an NFL caliber QB. I've watched him many times and he's just so average. Tony Pike 2.0.
What tools do they have above Landry? Be honest. Landry has a good arm, athletic and has shown the ability to have very good accuracy. This is a good comparison to Ponder IMO who went 12th.

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I think Blake Bell might push Landry Jones out of Oklahoma early. Tool wise he is the prototype QB but his lackluster senior season will drop him down draft boards. I really do not see much of a difference between Jones and Bradford, how Bradford went #1 is fairly puzzling.
Bradford had elite accuracy and smarts. I mean, Bradford put up a fantasy year in 2008 for OU. Landry never touched that playing with similar talent.

Also, for the Bell package, it freakin worked nearly every single time. Why not use it when it all but guarantees you a TD? Baylor never stopped it all game.
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Funny you should mention Gabbert because his huge game vs. Iowa in the Insight Bowl last year all but sealed his decision to leave early.

Jones gets to face a much worse Iowa defense this bowl season. I expect him to put up ridiculous numbers and declare right after that. And everyone will use that huge game as support for how great they think he is.
Oh, the game where he drifted out of the pocket for no reason other than to throw a terrible ball to the sideline that got picked off and ran back for a game-losing TD?



Yes, that play happened and BG was still somehow considered a surefire first rounder/top QB prospect.

Funny story, Jaguar GM Gene Smith was at that game to scout Stanzi with him Director of College Scouting. During the game, said Director asked Smith what he thought of Stanzi. Smith replied: "I dunno, I've been too busy watching the Missouri kid."

Smith has also admitted to not doing a ton of scouting work on Eugene Monroe, because he didn't think he'd be available to them at their pick. So I'm almost positive that Smith saw this game, got smitten, and blew a load when the Titans took Locker at 8.

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I don't think Jones would be as bad as Gabbert...that'd be hard to pull off unless your name is Quinn or Clausen...

I just know I wouldn't touch him. So many guys getting pushed up the boards with nothing more than arm strength and height. Important traits, but irrelevant if that is literally all you have.
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The difference is that both Ponder and Locker have much better tools than Landry. Landry just flat out isn't an NFL caliber QB. I've watched him many times and he's just so average. Tony Pike 2.0.
Jones and Ponder i think are pretty similar in throwing the ball although Ponder is more agile. As for Locker he's much the better physical prospect than Jones and that one isnt really close.
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