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Old 12-09-2011, 10:34 AM    (permalink
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Cam Johnson and Billy Wynn need to be towards the top rather than the bottom of the list
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No Casey Hayward in the top-10; no read from me, Bucky.
exactly! Winston Guy Jr. should be as well
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If you had read some of my posts on Brooks, you'd see I'm totally unsure whether Brooks is talented enough to take completely serious. I have nothing to base his accuracy on from past experience.
However, your obvious dislike for reliable sources show how mundane your knowledge of the draft is.
I choose to use sources that have proved to be reliable over time, like a Mayock, Brandt or a Casserly. You become laughable if you chose to ignore people who had put most of their lives into the draft for a living, in the NFL and have access we can only dream about. But what do they know????
If anything is hilarious, it's your belief that you are smarter and more knowledgeable than anybody else around and need no reliable sources to check out your thoughts against other people's opinions. Must be great to be a genius in your own mind.
Hahah, a lot of the guys you choose are as hit and miss as we are, which is why they were A) fired, or B)Never hired.

Don't confuse having a better cache or resources to use with actually being a better scout.

I do like Mayock though, but Brandt has been terrible for a LONG time, and Casserly is laughable...

My mistake on your thoughts on Bucky, but if you think he's a reliable source, IDK what else to say.
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Billy Wynn is going to be a stud.
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I rest my case. haha.
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It's spelt ranks damnit!
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seeing Dwight Jones so low on the list hurts my opinion of his rankings...he has Jones as the #9 pass catcher; I have him as the #11 prospect
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Hahah, a lot of the guys you choose are as hit and miss as we are, which is why they were A) fired, or B)Never hired.

Don't confuse having a better cache or resources to use with actually being a better scout.

I do like Mayock though, but Brandt has been terrible for a LONG time, and Casserly is laughable...

My mistake on your thoughts on Bucky, but if you think he's a reliable source, IDK what else to say.
Brandt had 29/32 first rounds 2 or 3 years ago so his sources at least, are pretty solid even if he doesn't do a lot of scouting himself anymore. I love Mayock but he has some weak areas as well like junior QB's. In fact most of the old timers haven't got a lot of experience with predicting junior QB's. It is only a recent phenomenon that QB's have started declaring as juniors in large #'s and I don't think the old timers are very solid on predicting them as prospects.
Casserly, I don't trust on QB's at all but he is still very knowledgeable about other positions, and you can compare his sources against Mayock's to get a clearer overall picture.
The way I approach the draft is to think of these guys like my hired scouts, I take their ideas, compare it to my own, then go back to see if I missed something if there is a wide divergence. Every organization have many scouts look at the same prospects before the GM, in most cases, reaches a conclusion on a prospect. Nobody except Matt Millen, ever relied on only his own opinion.
On Brooks, I have no past experience to judge him on so I am reluctant to completely take his word on a prospect. I'll be watching closely to see how he does at predicting where prospects rank before I add him as a hehe, scout for me..
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He said something along those lines but I'm almost sure that's not a direct quote.
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At least he has Kellen Moore top ten. Gotta agree there. Too bad he wasn't top five tho. Well he should only because lack of arm strength pff.
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LoL he has E.J. Manuel but not Tyler Wilson. At least he has RGIII ahead of almost everyone.
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I don't think Wilson declares but the fact that his list completely leaves him him absent (i'm assuming he includes all eligible draftees) makes it easier for me to understand why he's an ex-scout
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