The Coaching Change Thread - Page 5

Complex · 12-06-2011, 12:49 PM

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Add it all up, and Jeff Fisher figures to get a chance to get back into the league if he wants to. It sure seems like he wants to.

The latest sign: A report from NFL.com’s Jason La Canfora that two teams have already contacted Fisher. The Jaguars figure to be one of the teams. Fisher has been rumored as a candidate there, and they have the only current vacancy.

La Canfora lists the Chargers, Cowboys, Giants, and Rams as teams that have ties to Fisher. It’s hard to imagine the Cowboys or Giants would have already talked to Fisher.

-Profootballtalk

49ersfan_87 · 12-06-2011, 01:23 PM

I wonder if we'll see more younger HC's being hired, both in terms of age and NFL HC experience (ie college coaches, coordinators, maybe some position coaches) rather than experienced, proven HC's.

Last year, of the 8 HC's hired, 7 of them had no prior NFL HC experience. John Fox was the only one with experience and he's fighting for a playoff spot. Only other new HC that will make the playoffs for sure is Jim Harbaugh, who had college HC experience. Jason Garrett, Hue Jackson and Mike Munchak are competing for playoff births as well.

Looking at this year...i think i liked the quantity of coaching candidates more compared to last year. Last year i really liked Harbaugh, Jackson, and River, and Harbaugh was the slam dunk that i wanted all year long. This year...looking at OC's around the league, i like Jay Gruden, Rob Chudzinski, and maybe Mike Mularkey. DC's, i like Chuck Pagano, Mike Zimmer, Rob Ryan, and Dennis Allen. Experienced NFL HC's wise, i would consider Jeff Fisher. I think we'll see more younger guys getting hired this year, but i also think Fisher will come back and be the big draw. I also wonder if Gruden will come back...his son said last year he wanted to come back in 2012 (to SF or CLE, but both teams have moved on). Still, he could want to come back with a team like say the Chargers...just thinking outloud.

49ersfan_87 · 12-06-2011, 01:27 PM

As for teams that will have HC vacancies outside of the Jaguars, here's my opinion

-Dolphins
-Colts (he can't possibly keep his job after going 0-16)
-Chargers
-Rams
-Bucs
-Giants

-Cardinals, Browns, and Vikings hold off on firing their HC's, but they will probably start to be on the hot seat in 2012.

T-RICH49 · 12-11-2011, 11:15 PM

any chance Todd Haley had to stay as KC head coach went bye-bye after today

vidae · 12-11-2011, 11:43 PM

Yeah I don't expect him to be coaching this team next week.

Iamcanadian · 12-12-2011, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by T-RICH49

any chance Todd Haley had to stay as KC head coach went bye-bye after today

Haley is as safe as they come. He lost his starting QB, Charles and Berry, so what exactly were you expecting his team to do????

vidae · 12-12-2011, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Iamcanadian

Haley is as safe as they come. He lost his starting QB, Charles and Berry, so what exactly were you expecting his team to do????

How about be a little competitive? We've lost 5 games by 27 or more. And this injury excuse is such ********. Every team has injuries. Your team is supposed to at least show up.

And he lost Cassel after like two months. Cassel wasn't good before that and our offense wasn't good before that.

We watch KC every week. You catch a game once in a while, if that. We know what we're talking about.

Iamcanadian · 12-12-2011, 01:53 AM

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How about be a little competitive? We've lost 5 games by 27 or more. And this injury excuse is such ********. Every team has injuries. Your team is supposed to at least show up.

And he lost Cassel after like two months. Cassel wasn't good before that and our offense wasn't good before that.

We watch KC every week. You catch a game once in a while, if that. We know what we're talking about.

Sometimes you can be too close to a situation. Sure, teams definitely suffer injuries all the time in the current NFL, but losing your impact players is a whole different story. The Bears lost their QB and have lost 3 in a row, Indy lost its QB and will probably lose 16 in a row. Did you really think Palko would win any games especially with your star RB lost for the season, along with your all pro Safety.
I really don't think Haley will be fired, they'll give him at least one more year and hope their impact players stay healthy. I could easily see them return to Division champs next season with a little luck. A lost season will only make your draft that much better and probably guarantee another impact player on the roster. It could move you a lot closer to being a championship caliber team.

NY+Giants=NYG · 12-12-2011, 10:04 AM

Perry Fewell! Fire him!

Grizzlegom · 12-12-2011, 10:22 AM

Haley relieved of duties.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article...1-8038582a3270

vidae · 12-12-2011, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Iamcanadian

Haley is as safe as they come.

Iamcanadian, you were saying?

A Perfect Score · 12-12-2011, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by vidae

Iamcanadian, you were saying?

Boom goes the dynamite.

TheMatriculator · 12-12-2011, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by vidae

Iamcanadian, you were saying?

Darn, I was going to say that.

Sometimes you just have to trust Chiefs fans to know what they are talking about when it comes to their team.

jrdrylie · 12-12-2011, 11:57 AM

Reports are that the Dolphins are going to fire Sparano and keep GM Ireland.

http://eye-on-football.blogs.cbsspor...75988/33835419

Iamcanadian · 12-12-2011, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by vidae

Iamcanadian, you were saying?

I didn't realize that he and Pioli weren't on the same page. If I knew Pioli wanted to replace him and bring in a NE type, I wouldn't have based it on simple football matters.
You'll likely get Josh McDaniels now and I hope that works out for you especially since it totally secures Cassel as your starting QB.

vidae · 12-12-2011, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Iamcanadian

I didn't realize that he and Pioli weren't on the same page. If I knew Pioli wanted to replace him and bring in a NE type, I wouldn't have based it on simple football matters.
You'll likely get Josh McDaniels now and I hope that works out for you especially since it totally secures Cassel as your starting QB.

Based on.. what exactly? That they worked together previously? You're reaching here, but enjoy it!

J-Mike88 · 12-12-2011, 04:03 PM

Sparano and Haley being fired got their own thread even though this one is right here?

Who's next, Norv?
Or would Frazier or Raheem Morris be considered?
TB & KC had similar success last year. KC lost their great RB, S, and then their QB, along with a good TE.

TB doesn't have that many excuses. What gives?

vidae · 12-12-2011, 04:14 PM

I don't expect Morris to finish the season personally, but..

T-RICH49 · 12-12-2011, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Iamcanadian

I didn't realize that he and Pioli weren't on the same page. If I knew Pioli wanted to replace him and bring in a NE type, I wouldn't have based it on simple football matters.
You'll likely get Josh McDaniels now and I hope that works out for you especially since it totally secures Cassel as your starting QB.

Do you hate us or something?

vidae · 12-12-2011, 04:54 PM

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Do you hate us or something?

He's trolling for no reason. Last night he said that he was "sure" Haley would not be fired, and today he was. He doesn't know what he's talking about.. I'd just ignore him.

Bucs147 · 12-12-2011, 06:09 PM

The problem with firing Raheem Morris before the end of the season is that the coaching staff is so poor that there is no one who could step up and take the interim job. There's no DC. The OC, Greg Olson, might be the most clueless moronic piece of ***** I have ever seen. None of the positionnal coaches are impressive, except maybe for the DL coach, Keith Millard.

So Morris stay for the last three games and then that lackluster coaching staff better be fired.

vidae · 12-12-2011, 06:11 PM

I don't even really remember Morris as a coach/coordinator before he became the HC there in Tampa. How was he as a DB coach/DC?

Bucs147 · 12-12-2011, 06:33 PM

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I don't even really remember Morris as a coach/coordinator before he became the HC there in Tampa. How was he as a DB coach/DC?

He was great as a DB coach. The team had absolutly no DLine and the D was still top 10 in the league mostly because of the secondary (altough Monte Kiffin being such a great playcaller certainly helped). Even last year, it seems we could plug any JAG in that secondary (guys like Corey Lynch, Sean Jones or EJ Biggers) and we weren't losing any beat. The only DB that Raheem couldn't coach was Sabby Piscatelli (as a Bucs fan, I feel really sorry for you Chiefs fans having to suffer this guy's awfulness). This year, though, is totally the contrary. I have no idea what happened but the secondary as been terrible.

Morris has never been a DC in Tampa before he became the HC. He was named as the DC when Kiffin left, but like two weeks later Gruden was fired and Raheem took his place. His only DC experience was a single season in Kansas State in 2006 (where he met Josh Freeman). I heard he was doing okay. That's the guy main problem: He basically had no experience before getting the job. I like him and I really think he has potential as a HC, but he's just young/inexperienced to be a HC right now (and WAY too young to be both the HC and the DC). I hope he has success in his future outside of Tampa; he still has like at least 30 years of coaching ahead of him.

vidae · 12-12-2011, 06:36 PM

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The only DB that Raheem couldn't coach was Sabby Piscatelli (as a Bucs fan, I feel really sorry for you Chiefs fans having to suffer this guy's awfulness).

Just when I thought I couldn't get any more down on the Chiefs, you remind me that we have Sabby on our team. Wwwhhhhyyyyyy!

Bucs147 · 12-12-2011, 07:03 PM

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Just when I thought I couldn't get any more down on the Chiefs, you remind me that we have Sabby on our team. Wwwhhhhyyyyyy!

Haha, trust me, I feel your pain.

This Sabby talk reminds me of the 2007 draft. We had the #4 pick and wanted to trade up to the Lions' #2 pick to draft Calvin Johnson. Their asking price was the #4 pick + the 2 2nd we had. Gruden decided to not pull the trigger on that trade. We ended up drafting Gaines Adams (R.I.P.), Aarron Sears (had mental issues and quit football after 2 seasons) and Sabby. Worst non-trade ever.