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Old 12-23-2011, 01:55 PM    (permalink
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I think Barkley is making a tremendous mistake. There's always a risk of a serious injury, on any play.
There's also a risk of scouts and GM's picking him apart, finding flaws that aren't really there.
Whether it's a la Leinart, Brady Quinn, or Brian Brohm for example. Those guy's all had their stocks peak a year before they were in the draft.

A small part of me admires Barkley for staying, and staying loyal to the school (unlike 95% of basketball players).

But most of me thinks he's foolish, and scared to enter the real world, and is choosing the easy way out.... again, the college life, especially at SoCal, that's hard to walk away from. What hetero dude wants to leave that?

But they never mention that part when they say they're staying. I'd love to hear someone say it!

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I think Barkley is making a tremendous mistake. There's always a risk of a serious injury, on any play.
There's also a risk of scouts and GM's picking him apart, finding flaws that aren't really there.
Whether it's a la Leinart, Brady Quinn, or Brian Brohm for example. Those guy's all had their stocks peak a year before they were in the draft.

A small part of me admires Barkley for staying, and staying loyal to the school (unlike 95% of basketball players).

But most of me thinks he's foolish, and scared to enter the real world, and is choosing the easy way out.... again, the college life, especially at SoCal, that's hard to walk away from. What hetero dude wants to leave that?

But they never mention that part when they say they're staying. I'd love to hear someone say it!
Matt Barkley isn't doing it for the easy way out. He went to Mater Dei, probably the most competitive football school in Southern California, then he went to USC, the best football school in the nation at the time. He's going to prove he's the best. His family is plenty wealthy, they live in Newport Beach. If he has a career ending injury he won't be begging for money on the streets.
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I think Barkley is making a tremendous mistake. There's always a risk of a serious injury, on any play.
There's actually an insurance policy college athletes can take.

Luck signed a small one this past year think it was like 5 million dollars coverage. (chump change to what he could have made in the nfl) but there's different levels depending on how much you invest.
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Barkley will have a chance to complete his college career as one of the greatest QBs to come out of that school. Now that their probation is over, he won't just be the QB during their probation, but now has a chance at returning USC to greatness solidiftying a legacy. He'll be the Heismann front runner, he'll be the undoubted #1 QB prospect heading into the season and he could end up earning way more money next year.
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There's actually an insurance policy college athletes can take.

Luck signed a small one this past year think it was like 5 million dollars coverage. (chump change to what he could have made in the nfl) but there's different levels depending on how much you invest.
I was reading just this morning that Rob Gronkowski almost retired before the draft to cash in on a $4 Million insurance policy.
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I think Barkley is making a tremendous mistake. There's always a risk of a serious injury, on any play.
There's also a risk of scouts and GM's picking him apart, finding flaws that aren't really there.
Whether it's a la Leinart, Brady Quinn, or Brian Brohm for example. Those guy's all had their stocks peak a year before they were in the draft.

A small part of me admires Barkley for staying, and staying loyal to the school (unlike 95% of basketball players).

But most of me thinks he's foolish, and scared to enter the real world, and is choosing the easy way out.... again, the college life, especially at SoCal, that's hard to walk away from. What hetero dude wants to leave that?

But they never mention that part when they say they're staying. I'd love to hear someone say it!
I don't thhink first-round draft pick, NFL quarterback fits the typical definition 'real world', nor do I think that life is too different than the life of a Heisman-contending QB for USC.
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Barkley will have a chance to complete his college career as one of the greatest QBs to come out of that school. Now that their probation is over, he won't just be the QB during their probation, but now has a chance at returning USC to greatness solidiftying a legacy. He'll be the Heismann front runner, he'll be the undoubted #1 QB prospect heading into the season and he could end up earning way more money next year.
You do know someone is going to come in here and say you had a much differant take on Jake Locker when he stayed after his junior year. Just want to give you a heads up.
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I would walk away from the college life in California in an instant to be a multimillionaire pro football player.
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I think Barkley is making a tremendous mistake. There's always a risk of a serious injury, on any play.
There's also a risk of scouts and GM's picking him apart, finding flaws that aren't really there.
Whether it's a la Leinart, Brady Quinn, or Brian Brohm for example. Those guy's all had their stocks peak a year before they were in the draft.

A small part of me admires Barkley for staying, and staying loyal to the school (unlike 95% of basketball players).

But most of me thinks he's foolish, and scared to enter the real world, and is choosing the easy way out.... again, the college life, especially at SoCal, that's hard to walk away from. What hetero dude wants to leave that?

But they never mention that part when they say they're staying. I'd love to hear someone say it!
You were going along the standard perspective until you thought of him as 'scared to enter the real world' and 'choosing the easy way out'.

Holy crap. You went from pessimistic to highly insulting in one sentence.

The way I understand it, USC is finally Bowl Eligible now. And no matter what anybody else says, reaching and winning a High-Level Bowl Game, let alone the National Championship, is going to be the goal for them. And Barkley chose to NOT take money and jump the ship.

What's the REAL 'easy way out'? Earning a bunch of money whether going to a crud franchise or a good one that allows him time to develop- or fighting in the college ranks to actually WIN something?


...I hate the negative perspective, I really do. Because the negative perspective seems to feel top-rated QBs should walk out after their Junior years NO MATTER WHAT.
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You do know someone is going to come in here and say you had a much differant take on Jake Locker when he stayed after his junior year. Just want to give you a heads up.
Except USC will be competing for a nc and heisman with a quality team and quality wr tandem. None of which ever applied to locker.
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Except USC will be competing for a nc and heisman with a quality team and quality wr tandem. None of which ever applied to locker.
I was responding to D-Unit who said that Barkley could be one of the best there at his position, go to a big bowl, heisman favorite, undoubtedly the #1 prospect, possibly make more money........all things that applied to Locker.
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You do know someone is going to come in here and say you had a much differant take on Jake Locker when he stayed after his junior year. Just want to give you a heads up.
Yeah, but Jake Locker was someone who I considered to be overhyped. I thought he was nowhere near the Top 3 prospect people had him at in the 2010 draft. When he gave that up, I thought he was making a mistake... and surely enough, his crappy senior year did enough damage to prove me right.

It's never a case where the decision is the same for everyone.

Locker never had a chance to compete for a National Championship. He was not returning to a talented team. It was more about QB development for him.

Barkley is legit and his decision is much like Andrew Luck's. I never had an issue with Luck going back. I knew he'd be a Top 3 pick whenever he declared.
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Yeah, but Jake Locker was someone who I considered to be overhyped. I thought he was nowhere near the Top 3 prospect people had him at in the 2010 draft. When he gave that up, I thought he was making a mistake... and surely enough, his crappy senior year did enough damage to prove me right.

It's never a case where the decision is the same for everyone.

Locker never had a chance to compete for a National Championship. He was not returning to a talented team. It was more about QB development for him.

Barkley is legit and his decision is much like Andrew Luck's. I never had an issue with Luck going back. I knew he'd be a Top 3 pick whenever he declared.
Don't want to relitigate the whole Jake Locker decision but there is no real proof that he would have gone higher in 2010 than he did this past year.
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I think Barkley is making a tremendous mistake. There's always a risk of a serious injury, on any play.
There's also a risk of scouts and GM's picking him apart, finding flaws that aren't really there.
Whether it's a la Leinart, Brady Quinn, or Brian Brohm for example. Those guy's all had their stocks peak a year before they were in the draft.

A small part of me admires Barkley for staying, and staying loyal to the school (unlike 95% of basketball players).

But most of me thinks he's foolish, and scared to enter the real world, and is choosing the easy way out.... again, the college life, especially at SoCal, that's hard to walk away from. What hetero dude wants to leave that?

But they never mention that part when they say they're staying. I'd love to hear someone say it!
Or scouts can ignore flaws just look at Blaine Gabbert. It has become clear unless you are a scout for an NFL team don't really know what they are looking for in a prospect. If they do what they are supposed to they can find all the flaws. The scouting process is a long one for college football. If you don't find a flaw then, another year won't help you find it. If you want to be like every other debbie downer then sure he is taking the easy way out he is definitely not looking to win a national title, heisman, and return USC a team he grew up liking back to national prominence that would just be crazy.
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Yeah, but Jake Locker was someone who I considered to be overhyped. I thought he was nowhere near the Top 3 prospect people had him at in the 2010 draft. When he gave that up, I thought he was making a mistake... and surely enough, his crappy senior year did enough damage to prove me right.

It's never a case where the decision is the same for everyone.

Locker never had a chance to compete for a National Championship. He was not returning to a talented team. It was more about QB development for him.

Barkley is legit and his decision is much like Andrew Luck's. I never had an issue with Luck going back. I knew he'd be a Top 3 pick whenever he declared.
He probably dropped all of 4 slots despite his poor senior season. If he had come out the season before, I imagine the Skins would have taken him with pick 4 instead of Trent Williams. That was the report at the time, anyways. He did lose himself a ton of money, but that was more due to the CBA changes then anything Locker did all by his lonesome.

I liked Locker as much last year as I did Barkley this year.
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