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Old 01-09-2012, 03:36 PM    (permalink
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Personally Id love to see a 3-4 but we dont have the players right now to do so. But Spoon and Abe off the edge would be nasty.
Abe can't play in space, BVG proved that by wasting our best pass rusher on multiple drop backs in nearly every game.

Spoon isn't long enough to be extremely effective off the edge, and his true talent is right where it was shining this year, 4-3 Weakside LB.

Give me Kroy and Sid as the Rush OLB and I'd take either one of them, problem is they're so poor in space that you couldn't afford to drop them back often enough to make the 3-4 very effective.

We have Curtis for 1 ILB, which would be fine, Mike Pete could easily handle the other inside position, so that'd be nice. We've got no one for NT, which can be exceptionally difficult to find a great anchor there. We've got no one to play the 5 Tech, maybe Babs but he's just not long enough. Pork Chop could be okay, but I wouldn't be excited about that either. Ray Edwards could actually prolly play 5 tech so we've got 1 5 tech.

Plus we'd be wasting Abe's talent, we're built for the 4-3, and that's okay, we just need someone to handle the DBs, and adjust the scheme to where we've got a really attacking front 4, Babs looked absolutely dominant out there blowing up their offensive line constantly, I'd hate to waste that.

Robinson prolly needs to get cut, or moved to FS, he just blows too many coverages, if he was back playing a Rover Safety he'd likely be a nice improvement over Decoud and we all know he can lower the boom. I think he's at the worst in his back pedal, so getting him back in space with a head start could really benefit him. Robinson and Moore with Grimes on 1 side is good with me.
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i want this in our offensive players. some passion, some heart. all of which was lacking in ny.

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Yeah, we shouldn't move to a 34. Spoon doesn't fit, we don't have the NT, or the OLBs.
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dear atlanta people.

coming from an auburn fan, i would love to hear about DVG. everything ive read has been great about him til i got to this thread but i was thinking it may be from the fans bitter loss just the other day.
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dear atlanta people.

coming from an auburn fan, i would love to hear about DVG. everything ive read has been great about him til i got to this thread but i was thinking it may be from the fans bitter loss just the other day.


...Where have you been reading? University of Georgia stuff? I believe he was liked there...


Anyway, you aren't going to find many fans of his around here. Rarely blitzes, has corners way too far off the ball, and loves to go to 3 man rushes. Hardly stuff that endears him to Falcons fans.
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So, we should obviously all want Spags, but that's highly unlikely.
I'm sure we'll hear Del Rio's name a lot.
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dear atlanta people.

coming from an auburn fan, i would love to hear about DVG. everything ive read has been great about him til i got to this thread but i was thinking it may be from the fans bitter loss just the other day.
Falcons fans have disliked BVG for a very long time now. Mostly because of the reasons ATL posted.
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dear atlanta people.

coming from an auburn fan, i would love to hear about DVG. everything ive read has been great about him til i got to this thread but i was thinking it may be from the fans bitter loss just the other day.
Personally been calling for his and Mularkey's heads for 3 years now. BVG will have some amazing games where he's attacking and using his weapons, then the next week completely forgets they even exist. The Stains game where we kept Brees to next to nothing a couple years back where he was rattled and absolutely shaken in that game. We haven't seen that defense since that game though, so it was in his head, and maybe he just thinks too much for the NFL, but he was definitely out of his element.

Hopefully he'll be good for you guys like he was at UGA, he may have simply been unable to communicate and handle grown men instead of college kids.
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dear atlanta people.

coming from an auburn fan, i would love to hear about DVG. everything ive read has been great about him til i got to this thread but i was thinking it may be from the fans bitter loss just the other day.
BVG is a very good DC his biggest weakness for you will be that he doesn't change his scheme much and he isnt the best recruiter in the world. His star players who was under him at UGA was all low ranked guys. He took more heat then he should have it atlanta bc nobody wanted to blame the high profile skill guys on the offense. The defense had avg players on it and it got average results
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The biggest issue was when something was going wrong, he failed to see it. He continued with the same plays hoping to get different results.
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Great 2 for 2.
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Hell yea that's nice. Now the big question, who do we hire?
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I just pray we go outside to organization. Do not make Bratkowski the OC. Please.
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I just pray we go outside to organization. Do not make Bratkowski the OC. Please.
That's exactly what I'm hoping for. We really need someone with fresh ideas.
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Yes yes yes!!!!
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It's such a perfect fit and so obvious... but will it happen?

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He did coach here previously too. I mean, I think it makes sense. He would be great for Julio too. I credit him and Joe Horn for the success of Roddy White. Not to mention he finally got Darrius Heyward-Bey to produce.
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Knowing how this organizational works we'll probably sign
someone low key...I just hope it's not one of those bonehead decisions
like signing Tim Lewis.


My picks

Chuck Pagano or Steve Spanuolo for DC

Matt Cavanaugh or Todd Haley for OC
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I mean could we hire worse?
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Don't really care who the new OC is. The offense will go as far as Matt Ryan takes it. Hopefully I'm wrong and they bring in a real mastermind who can put the offense over the top, but I'm not counting on it.

As for defense, it should get pretty interesting.
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I think Tim Lewis would be worse as a DC. He's been hated at every stop. Bratkowski got a lot of the same criticism Murlarkey did, so it'd be almost a lateral move.

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As for defense, it should get pretty interesting.
Another lineman and a better play caller that uses all of our play makers and plays to Ryan's strength could definitely change things for us.


And I must say, it's far from concrete, but the early vibes would put getting a new bigger name DC is more likely than on offense.
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Where you getting the vibes from? Not that I disagree, I kinda feel the same way, but simply because it seems like the OC list is very thin out there. I like the former WR coach turned Oakland Headcoach. I think he'd have some great thing to do here. There's talent in Oakland but no QB like we have here, and not to the level we have here. Even with RunDMC out he was able to keep that offense moving pretty well and doing some interesting things.

He got DHB's head on straight and got his potential to start showing up, and I think he could really help this offense get a new face and sort of explode.

DC wise, Spags is my guy, if we get him I'd be ecstatic and I think Abe would come back without a single hesitation. I honestly think whoever we hire is going to determine if JA55 comes back to play in ATL. I also hope whoever it is can be so aggressive that it helps disguise our troubles in the secondary, much like Green Bay does. They make a pretty average CB into a pro bowler due to their pressure, I hope that we can do the same to just ramp up and protect Robinson, and Franks, and Owens.
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Where you getting the vibes from? Not that I disagree, I kinda feel the same way, but simply because it seems like the OC list is very thin out there. I like the former WR coach turned Oakland Headcoach. I think he'd have some great thing to do here. There's talent in Oakland but no QB like we have here, and not to the level we have here. Even with RunDMC out he was able to keep that offense moving pretty well and doing some interesting things.

He got DHB's head on straight and got his potential to start showing up, and I think he could really help this offense get a new face and sort of explode.

DC wise, Spags is my guy, if we get him I'd be ecstatic and I think Abe would come back without a single hesitation. I honestly think whoever we hire is going to determine if JA55 comes back to play in ATL. I also hope whoever it is can be so aggressive that it helps disguise our troubles in the secondary, much like Green Bay does. They make a pretty average CB into a pro bowler due to their pressure, I hope that we can do the same to just ramp up and protect Robinson, and Franks, and Owens.
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Aw, dang it. I didn't know that...oh well. Where'd he go, and who's next on the list?
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