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Old 02-27-2012, 10:49 AM    (permalink
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Poe next to Linval would be great. And then stick our DEs around, and we are good to go. In 3rd and long situations we can add another DE, or see what Marvin Austin can do. Poe is a very interesting prospect! I think he would be a damn good fit for our DL.
So how would you suggest the SB champs trade up to get him?
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we said before the combine that this guy has ngata-like athletic ability considering his movement skills for his size. Scott always said that he would rise and be a top 15 pick. he is so very raw for his position, but his physical talent for a DT that big is top 5 pick like - it will be interesting to see where he goes. big risk since he is a project that you have to develop out of a chunk of raw clay, but extremely high upside.
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hes one extremely large, fast, and powerful chunk of raw clay though
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So how would you suggest the SB champs trade up to get him?
No, I am just coveting out loud, however, I wouldn't advocate trading up. Our DL is fine as it is. We can roll in next season, and still be good. I like this prospect and think he will be a good fit in the middle. But I am very happy with staying put, and see how the draft takes shape. Last year we stayed at our spot, and the teams went for QBs, and prince fell to us. I'd stay at our pick, and go BPA and be very happy with that. There is no need to trade up and lose picks. I am happy staying at 32 and going BPA.

I trust Reese though. If he and marc ross, feels that trading up for anyone is a best thing, I am fine with it, but I don't see Reese trading up.
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No, I am just coveting out loud, however, I wouldn't advocate trading up. Our DL is fine as it is. We can roll in next season, and still be good. I like this prospect and think he will be a good fit in the middle. But I am very happy with staying put, and see how the draft takes shape. Last year we stayed at our spot, and the teams went for QBs, and prince fell to us. I'd stay at our pick, and go BPA and be very happy with that. There is no need to trade up and lose picks. I am happy staying at 32 and going BPA.

I trust Reese though. If he and marc ross, feels that trading up for anyone is a best thing, I am fine with it, but I don't see Reese trading up.
I am struggling with having to accept that the Colts have zero chance to get him. He is exactly the type of player that our new defense needs and I think with our new coaching staff we would have the right guys to develop him. But we could trade away every pick this year and still only hope to trade up to about the 16th pick. I can't imagine giving away multiple picks across two years for him.
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I am struggling with having to accept that the Colts have zero chance to get him. He is exactly the type of player that our new defense needs and I think with our new coaching staff we would have the right guys to develop him. But we could trade away every pick this year and still only hope to trade up to about the 16th pick. I can't imagine giving away multiple picks across two years for him.
You could get Poe if you really wanted him.. you have the first pick in the draft!
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You could get Poe if you really wanted him.. you have the first pick in the draft!
I briefly thought about that but of course that would be insane.
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I am struggling with having to accept that the Colts have zero chance to get him. He is exactly the type of player that our new defense needs and I think with our new coaching staff we would have the right guys to develop him. But we could trade away every pick this year and still only hope to trade up to about the 16th pick. I can't imagine giving away multiple picks across two years for him.
Yeah well you guys earned the first pick, so that will be QB. You can trade back I guess, but you'd be crazy not taking Luck. So, yeah you guys have no shot at Poe, but that's a good problem to have if you need a franchise QB. Think of it this way, you will go from Manning to Luck, and if Luck reached his potential then you have no dark years of finding a QB. Look at Dallas after Aikman left. Finally they found Romo, but before that they went through QBs. Miami is still trying to find their QB since Marino retired.

Take Luck, and use free agency, and the other picks to add to the team.
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Yeah well you guys earned the first pick, so that will be QB. You can trade back I guess, but you'd be crazy not taking Luck. So, yeah you guys have no shot at Poe, but that's a good problem to have if you need a franchise QB. Think of it this way, you will go from Manning to Luck, and if Luck reached his potential then you have no dark years of finding a QB. Look at Dallas after Aikman left. Finally they found Romo, but before that they went through QBs. Miami is still trying to find their QB since Marino retired.

Take Luck, and use free agency, and the other picks to add to the team.
Oh no question the Colts will take Luck. It's not even something to hesitate on. I am thrilled about Luck. He is going to be such a stud. I just want real life to be like Madden where I trade old guys away for picks and move up to get every guy in the draft that I want.
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Yeah, Luck > Poe...potential franchise QB > any position ever really.

But damn, I just caught up on Poe's actual performance numbers at the combine. The only other person that big who can move that fast is Haloti Ngata.

I think we'll be hearing Poe's name called far sooner than anyone expects. Panthers potentially even.

btw, unrelated, but I liked the comment by a Colts person that said something like "Griffin could actually FLY at the combine and the Colts would still take Luck."
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Yeah, Luck > Poe...potential franchise QB > any position ever really.

But damn, I just caught up on Poe's actual performance numbers at the combine. The only other person that big who can move that fast is Haloti Ngata.

I think we'll be hearing Poe's name called far sooner than anyone expects. Panthers potentially even.
Ngata's 40 was 5.13. He also put up 37 on bench vs. Poe's 44. Poe is in uncharted territory here. I'm not saying he will be as good as Ngata, that will be difficult. But if he isn't it won't be because he's not big, strong, or fast enough.
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Ngata's 40 was 5.13. He also put up 37 on bench vs. Poe's 44. Poe is in uncharted territory here. I'm not saying he will be as good as Ngata, that will be difficult. But if he isn't it won't be because he's not big, strong, or fast enough.
Ok Mr. Particulars......his actual numbers were better than Ngata's. But Ngata has consistently showed unreal athleticism for his size on the field in the NFL. So he carries the gold standard until Poe displays the same.
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His number was adjusted from 4.87 to 4.98. Overrated!
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His number was adjusted from 4.87 to 4.98. Overrated!
Good maybe he'll drop to the 2nd.
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Good maybe he'll drop to the 2nd.
More likely he drops to 11 now! \o/
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More likely he drops to 11 now! \o/
And by 11 you mean 32? : )




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Yeah, but real life isn't madden! LOL. You're in a very good situation. When Phil Simms time was done, we went through Danny Kannel, Mike Cherry, Dave Brown before getting Carrie collins. Look at Dallas, with Hutchinson, Henson, and others I forgot. It's a very hard thing to find that franchise QB.

You are fine, in a very good spot, and have nothing to worry about in terms of potential. Now it will come down to developing Luck, and surrounding him with talent. If he busts, then I'd look at the franchise and how they developed him before analyzing him, and his part. So you guys are in a very ideal spot, most teams who need a QB would really love.

For us, I just wait until 32, and see what falls down. We may get a good bargain if someone slides, if not, just hold pat, and take BPA, and move on.
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