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View Poll Results: Tannehill or Flynn; who would you ride your career on between these 2
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Old 02-27-2012, 04:30 PM    (permalink
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Really wish Tannehill could've done a full workout at the combine, though. Guess we all just have to wait for March 29th. I imagine he'll have a really impressive Pro Day.
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Not saying Tannehill SHOULD go in the Top 10-15, but he is heads and tails above Osweiler and Foles
just to play devils advocate why is Tannehill _so_ much better than Foles or Osweiler?

I guess im just late to the party on this one.

Tannehill yes a nice player with the potential to be a 1st rounder (maybe even a high 1st) if everything broke right... but nothing has gone well for him this offseason. everything has gone poorly for him, but his stock keeps rising?
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Flynn isn't going to come cheap, if Green Bay signs and then trades him, his contract could be very expensive for at least 3 years and he will cost a 1st rounder. Generally, these type of QB's don't turnout to be stars, see Cassel and Kolb, so there is a huge risk involved.
Tannehill isn't a sure thing either, but his contract will be cheaper and his upside could be potentially higher.
It is a very tough call although Philbin should have a very good idea of how good Flynn can be, so if Miami pursues him, the price could go up and he becomes the better choice. If Miami doesn't pursue him, then Tannehill is likely the better pick.
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Tannehill has a far better arm comparing how they were in college and drafting time for teach of them. I would argue the upside of both is uncertain, but I think if Sherman says to miami that Tannehill is the guy to go for then snag him. He has the potential to be great. Plus miami has not drafted a 1st round QB in how many decades?
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It's looking less likely that the Packers franchise Flynn every day and considering Philbin being in town, I think the best short-term play for Miami is to go get Flynn, trade down into the middle of the first round if they can and then grab Wright or Floyd there.

Long term, I prefer Tannehill by a bit while realizing he is also on the higher risk side of the equation, but not as much as some think considering Flynn's very limited resume.
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My guess, and hope, is that there's almost a wink deal between Miami and Green Bay, along with Philbin, that Flynn follows him there.

People may not remember (Dallas fans do maybe), but in Rodgers 3rd year sitting, he had one chance to play and he almost bailed out a crappy Favre hole-dig and he looked good. That was the fans first positive sign, but the coaches knew he had "it" already.

Fans just saw Flynn last year in his 3rd year, and he looked very good on the road in primetime at New England. Then this year his 4th year, he looked even better (record-setting) in his one chance. But coaches knew what he could do (not expecting 6 TDs and 400+ yards), as they had seen him look good and improve in practice behind the scenes.

Philbin is THE main coach who witnessed this, and had a big hand in it.

It seems to obvious to me that Flynn will be joining Philbin. Put yourself in Philbin's shoes.... your system, new QB coming in, what could be better than the guy who you coached up like that the past 4 years?
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I draft Tannehill at #8. Sign Peyton Manning with the confidence (hope) he gets back to 100%. *fans & owner applaud the effort-buys me an extra year*

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My guess, and hope, is that there's almost a wink deal between Miami and Green Bay, along with Philbin, that Flynn follows him there.

People may not remember (Dallas fans do maybe), but in Rodgers 3rd year sitting, he had one chance to play and he almost bailed out a crappy Favre hole-dig and he looked good. That was the fans first positive sign, but the coaches knew he had "it" already.

Fans just saw Flynn last year in his 3rd year, and he looked very good on the road in primetime at New England. Then this year his 4th year, he looked even better (record-setting) in his one chance. But coaches knew what he could do (not expecting 6 TDs and 400+ yards), as they had seen him look good and improve in practice behind the scenes.

Philbin is THE main coach who witnessed this, and had a big hand in it.

It seems to obvious to me that Flynn will be joining Philbin. Put yourself in Philbin's shoes.... your system, new QB coming in, what could be better than the guy who you coached up like that the past 4 years?
What are you basing this on? Isn't it just as possible a scenario that Philbin, having coached him up, knows Flynn is not a franchise QB type to receive a long term contract and so instead goes for the guy with higher upside?
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What are you basing this on? Isn't it just as possible a scenario that Philbin, having coached him up, knows Flynn is not a franchise QB type to receive a long term contract and so instead goes for the guy with higher upside?
Sure, but I think the game-film that he put out there should give you some insight into the confidence Philbin has in Flynn.

Did you not watch either the game at NE last year or the game vs Detroit this year?

People say those are bad defenses. They're a lot better than Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, Mizzou, etc.

Flynn's film is from NFL regular season games, both of them with some playoff-significance and both outdoors in cold weather.

Why would Philbin not be impressed by that?
Why does Tannehill have a higher "upside" than what Flynn has?
Age, heighth, fastball MPH?

What is "upside"?
What was Brady's when he was drafted?
What was Brees "upside, or ceiling" when San Diego let him go, and when Miami went with Culpepper instead of Brees"?
THe 49ers took Alex Smith over Rodgers in 2005 and they felt that Smith's athletic ability and bigger size made him have the higher upside.

Someone define upside or ceiling to me.

I heard last year this time that Blaine Gabbert had a very high ceiling.
I heard that about Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russell.

This "ceiling/upside" stuff cracks me up.
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Pete Carroll likes bringing in lots of new (veteran) players, so I expect he's going to make a serious push for Flynn leading up to the draft. Or at least, he's going to seriously evaluating the possibility. You never know what coaching staffs really think about a given player. I'm not sure Flynn's the greatest fit for our offense, though. Or maybe I should say, instead; I actually think the offense Tannehill ran last year at A&M might be more similar to the Seahawks' than Green Bay's. I'm not necessary trying to knock Matt Flynn (or Aaron Rodgers) but the Packers offense is loaded. They have, besides their MVP quarterback, a line that's good enough to compete with the best defenses, competent running backs, a franchise-caliber tight end, two no. 2 receivers and two no. 1 receivers. That's a lot for any defense to handle, and it makes the quarterback's job a hell of a lot easier, whoever he is. So that's the grain of salt I have in mind when thinking about Matt Flynn.

But perhaps think of this - Pete Carroll is, if I recall, the second-oldest coach in the NFL. You've got to think drafting and developing your own quarterback is what every head coach always wants to do, and Carroll never has. Tannehill could end up being "his guy." Maybe he goes for a little bit of a gamble for the sake of his legacy.
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What are everyones thoughts on the possibility of the Browns taking Tannehill at 4 if the Skins move up to 2 for RG3? There seems like no way to me that Tannehill at this point will be available with the Browns second 1st round pick. They don't need to start him right away with Colt and Tannehill did play for former Mike Holmgren protege Mike Sherman in college.
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If the browns want tanenhill they better trade down that number 4 pick is WAY to high for him! Not worth it! You trade down to someone that wants Trent Richardson and get more picks to help build around tanenhill mayb an orson Charles or Stanford TE or Ingram from sc on the dline but 4 is way to
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If the browns want tanenhill they better trade down that number 4 pick is WAY to high for him! Not worth it! You trade down to someone that wants Trent Richardson and get more picks to help build around tanenhill mayb an orson Charles or Stanford TE or Ingram from sc on the dline but 4 is way to
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Tannehill every time, but I'm an upside kind of guy and a Tannehill fan.

Flynn is an interesting scenario. Is he Matt Schaub or Kevin Kolb? Either way, I think the Packers ultimately franchise him and move him for an asset, what I'm assuming will be some sort of package including a 2nd round pick. So for arguments sake, let's say Flynn costs you the 40th overall pick, and Tannehill the 12th. I think those are fair assumptions, on some level. Tannehill is a higher perceived upside and will cost much less, salary wise, for the next several years. I'm taking the big, rocket armed, extremely mobile QB at 12, spending my 2nd rounder on one of the many, many receivers in this class worthy of that selection and hoping for the chance to develop him.
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I think Tannehill is extremely mediocre, so in no way would I stake my career on him. Maybe he blossoms later, but the dude completely underwhelmed me in college.
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It would be a typical retardo Browns move to draft Tannehill at 22.

He is going to suck.
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Thats what I am thinking. Trade down where? They would have to stay in front of the Chiefs and Seattle probably at 11 and 12. With the rookie salary scales now you arent nearly as concerned having to pay a "top 5" pick like you used to. I just don't see anyone from 7 to 10 moving up to 4 for any reason which leaves Cleveland stuck at 4 and we saw last year that teams are taking potential franchise signal callers earlier than their perceived value.
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That's what I thought too and I live in Texas and rooted for the Aggies.
He seems to be the "IT" guy this year, like Blaine Gabbert was last year. And then Christian Ponder.

Still, he has a strong arm, and is pretty tall, nice size for a QB. Was coached by Mike Sherman, who once coached Favre.
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That's what I thought too and I live in Texas and rooted for the Aggies.
He seems to be the "IT" guy this year, like Blaine Gabbert was last year. And then Christian Ponder.

Still, he has a strong arm, and is pretty tall, nice size for a QB. Was coached by Mike Sherman, who once coached Favre.
I'm in texas as well so I got to see quite a few of his games.

You nailed it wrt gabbert and ponder.

Tannehill is physically gifted, but his accuracy is mediocre, he makes a lot of poor decisions, and he sucks at making clutch plays. He just isn't a good QB.
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Sure, but I think the game-film that he put out there should give you some insight into the confidence Philbin has in Flynn.

Did you not watch either the game at NE last year or the game vs Detroit this year?

People say those are bad defenses. They're a lot better than Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, Mizzou, etc.

Flynn's film is from NFL regular season games, both of them with some playoff-significance and both outdoors in cold weather.

Why would Philbin not be impressed by that?
Why does Tannehill have a higher "upside" than what Flynn has?
Age, heighth, fastball MPH?

What is "upside"?
What was Brady's when he was drafted?
What was Brees "upside, or ceiling" when San Diego let him go, and when Miami went with Culpepper instead of Brees"?
THe 49ers took Alex Smith over Rodgers in 2005 and they felt that Smith's athletic ability and bigger size made him have the higher upside.

Someone define upside or ceiling to me.

I heard last year this time that Blaine Gabbert had a very high ceiling.
I heard that about Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russell.

This "ceiling/upside" stuff cracks me up.
lol You know exactly what upside means.

2 starts doesn't reveal much of anything and certainly not the confidence Philbin has in Flynn.
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Flynn, I would not gamble a 1st round pick on Tannehill. If Tannehill busts and there are better players drafted past him, well then it was a stupid pick. I would not draft Tannehill in the top 15 let alone the first round. There is a big drop off of talent for QBs after Luck and RG3. Flynn won't cost a draft pick and he has NFL experience.
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As a total aside, I think we'll get a clear picture of who's interested in Taneyhill sooner than later. There's really only two legitimate threats for RG3 right now, so depending on FA and the QB contracts that are handed out, I think we'll have an idea who is interested in Taneyhill in a couple weeks.

He's raw. If this was a decade ago, or even five years ago, I would say his value should be a mid-late first to early 2nd type. A Patrick Ramsey type value (for those that remember that draft, the Redskins and several other teams thought about him early-mid first but they just didn't think he had that value and kept moving down for him). That said, he has a strong arm, good velocity, and athletic ability. That will always attract scouts and GM's, and there's enough last year to show some semblance of field vision understanding that, if you believe he is a smart kid who will learn, that it might be worth it to gamble. I certainly think he's a better prospect than both Locker and Ponder.

My hunch right now is that, he could go top 10, but more than likely, ends up slipping to the mid-first, with perhaps a team from the top 10 trading down to net him. Of course, the threat is that a team like Buffalo, where he could groom behind Fitzpatrick, could have some interest, so this will be an interesting dance.
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