2012 Pittsburgh Steelers Discussion - Page 3

Hines · 03-04-2012, 02:35 PM

Cordy Glenn, Jon Martin(if he falls), Konz, and Kuelchy(doubt he falls). Mark Barron is on my list too.

I would like me some Dre, but his character is all wacked out and the last time we dealt with a pot smoker, we shifted him to New York for a third day pick. I'm not sure how bad Dre's pot smoking is, though. But I did hear he didn't do too well in interviews.

Jakey · 03-04-2012, 03:23 PM

Is Jonathan Martin any good?

Reminds me of Derek Sherrod from last year.

Hines · 03-04-2012, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakey

Is Jonathan Martin any good?

Reminds me of Derek Sherrod from last year.

Smart, athletic, durable. Sherrod would have been fine by me. By drafting Martin, we can kill two birds with one stone and move Colon inside.

mikehop05 · 03-04-2012, 06:45 PM

cool cool thanks.. i havn't been able to follow the off season stuff as much this year so i wanna start by just focusing on our more likely targets

Jakey · 03-04-2012, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hines

Smart, athletic, durable. Sherrod would have been fine by me. By drafting Martin, we can kill two birds with one stone and move Colon inside.

I've thought about drafting a RT and moving Colon inside, but imo it is a flawed plan.

Colon is obviously better suited at RT (or he would have been moved earlier), and even if he does move to guard, RG would be his ideal position. In which case, Foster or Legs would be the starter at LG...which imo would be a weaker line than Colon and Foster on the right, and Gilbert and a rookie (Glenn, Osemele, Washington etc) on the left. Foster doesnt play as well on the left, and Legs is not starter material imo (as much as i like him).

Hines · 03-04-2012, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakey

I've thought about drafting a RT and moving Colon inside, but imo it is a flawed plan.

Colon is obviously better suited at RT (or he would have been moved earlier), and even if he does move to guard, RG would be his ideal position. In which case, Foster or Legs would be the starter at LG...which imo would be a weaker line than Colon and Foster on the right, and Gilbert and a rookie (Glenn, Osemele, Washington etc) on the left. Foster doesnt play as well on the left, and Legs is not starter material imo (as much as i like him).

They could still draft a LG if they were to draft a LT/RT in the first. Martin-Wagner/Kendricks-Brooks/Nicks in the first three rounds.

DeathbyStat · 03-05-2012, 06:59 AM

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Cordy Glenn-Yes im good with that. Starting to like getting Brandon Brooks later on. Had a workout similar to Glenn at his Miami of Ohio pro day

Mike Adams-Scares me to death

Mark Barron-Wouldn't hate it or love it. the position needs to be upgraded sooner or later. I have a feeling Troy and Clark are going to fall apart physically in the next three years and Mundy isn;t the guy. We should wait for next years seemingly stronger Safety class next year.

Dre Kirkpatrick-Good with this but I doubt he falls this far.

Janoris Jenkins-Same feeling i have on KirkPatrick, might not even be on the Steelers board. After all his pot incidents

Zach Brown-Great athlete bad instincts, fits into Tomlin's MO of Drafting freaks

Peter Konz-Moving him to guard?

Kevin Zeitler-saw him get destroyed in one on ones at the senior bowl, I need to watch more of him

DeeboHarrison · 03-05-2012, 01:45 PM

What's up with all the love for Peter Konz in round 1? Biiiig reach for us in my opinion.

First of all we have a center so we're going to be moving him to a new position. Second the guy only put up 18 reps at the combine. That's pathetic and doesn't even register on the scale for olinemen (except for Mike Adams).

For us - I'd take Zeitler or Osemele over Konz EASILY in round 1.

But if we're going to take a center and move him out to guard I would much rather wait 2 rounds and pick up Michael Brewster out of THE Ohio State University - who would've been a first round pick had he come out last year.

Burden · 03-05-2012, 03:11 PM

Any word on the tenders the Steelers used today. SteelersDepot was reporting earlier the Steelers may use a 2nd round tender instead of ROFR on Legursky and Foster.

Phillysteeler · 03-05-2012, 08:47 PM

The deadline for restricted tenders is the 13th. The deadline today was just franchise and transition tags. So we will have to wait another week to see.

K Train · 03-06-2012, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mikehop05

so besides poe and hightower... who else would you be happy with at 24 in the first?

Glenn, Adams, Jenkins, Konz.....and i think thats pretty much it for me

Hines · 03-06-2012, 09:35 AM

I don't think Jenkins would get picked by the Steelers if he were there at 24.

Smooth Criminal · 03-06-2012, 09:52 AM

I'm starting to really want to get Glenn. I've gotten so sick of having a weak offensive line, it'd be nice to add a talented guy next to Pouncey.

Still need to look for talent at MLB, NT, and CB, but I would really love to se guard addressed. Don't want to go into the season with Legursky and Foster as starters.

K Train · 03-06-2012, 09:54 AM

i dont really think it would happen, but he seems smart and he seems to have cleaned up. Ive just heard how well he interveiws, so who knows

ellsy82 · 03-06-2012, 09:57 AM

I'm warming up to Mike Adams. Dunno which tackle position we'd play him at, but he's gotta be worth 1.24.

K Train · 03-06-2012, 05:11 PM

i love mike adams, i think hes legit. people are questioning his strength because of the 19 reps but starks was 10 pounds heavier and did 2 reps more and at 6-8 340ish thats not what you would love but its not unheard of. mike adams is good on his feet and plays good down field.

Hines · 03-06-2012, 05:42 PM

Bold statement: Curtis Brown will lead the team in interceptions.

ellsy82 · 03-06-2012, 09:08 PM

Easy claim. That'e because Ike can't catch a ball to save his family.

Sloopy · 03-07-2012, 07:58 AM

I encourage you all to check out my latest 4 round mock draft :)

http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51453

steelersrock151 · 03-07-2012, 09:01 AM

I did sloop. I'll repost my comments here:
As bad a draft as I've seen for the Steelers. A) Zietler is second round material, not first. They need o-line, but not enough to reach that far. B) We need safety. But Iloka will go down as one overdrafted person if he goes before late 3. Knock on him in college was that he was slow and gets burned deep regularly. Proved at combine he is slow and will get burned deep regularly. C) I can live with a RB, but not top 3. When Mendenhall went down, fill in ran for over 100 yds. Not that big a need. D) Burflict. Not anything worse I can say than that. Go Hightower, Silotolu or Chapman, Martin or Massie, and Allen the way your draft plays out.

Hines · 03-07-2012, 10:05 AM

I like Zietler, but the Steelers live or die with the defense. I firmly believe that if Hightower is there at 24, they will pick him.

Also, it is reported that we are VERY interested in Isaiah Pead. I'd take him in the third round. He'd add another element to our offense that we do not have at the RB position.

I like Taze, but don't think he'll even be on our draft board.

DeeboHarrison · 03-07-2012, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by K Train

i love mike adams, i think hes legit. people are questioning his strength because of the 19 reps but starks was 10 pounds heavier and did 2 reps more and at 6-8 340ish thats not what you would love but its not unheard of. mike adams is good on his feet and plays good down field.

K Train and ellsy. Please refer to my previous post on Adams. I have been watching him in person the last 4 years (3 and a half with suspension/2.5 startin) and the guy is SOFT. I want no part of Mike Adams whatsoever and I urge you to watch tape of him get destroyed when he goes against NFL level DE's such as Ryan Kerrigan, JJ Watt and Jared Odrick. Especially Kerrigan who ate his lunch on just about every play. Also he doesn't get a great push in the run game like you would expect from a man that massive. He's a catcher, not a mauler.

K Train · 03-07-2012, 10:16 AM

eh max starks was "soft" too, a 6-8 teddy bear for years...i dont think adams is quite that bad.

i do believe that hightower will be the pick though

Hines · 03-07-2012, 10:18 AM

Only way I don't see Hightower next year is if someone like Dre, Martin, or even Kuelchy is there at 24.

DeeboHarrison · 03-07-2012, 10:18 AM

Are you guys really on board with Dont'a Hightower as our 1st round pick. By most all accounts that's what signs are pointing towards and I do not agree with it.

Here's why:
You can say what you will about Hightower but he's not an athletic ILB. He's not going to be able to cover TE's. Also he's not a sideline-to-sideline type guy. I think 5-10 years ago you could justify taking a one-dimensional run stopping ILB who has all the intagibles in the world with your first rounder. Today is a new day though. I can already see Hightower getting toasted by Ed Dickson and Jermaine Gresham. Pull him on passing downs, you say? SO you're taking a 2 down linebacker in the first round?

Me, I prefer to go with Ta'Amu in the first round. Hoping he lasts till the second is a pipe dream. 3-4 NT's are VERY hard to come by. He's not going to make it out of the top 40. In fact I think the Texans are very likely to snatch him up at 26 if we don't pull the trigger. So I am all about Alameda at 24.