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Boykin was already picked.. Hmm...

Jayron Hosley? Phillip Blake? Markell Martin? George Iloka? Audie Cole? Sean Spence?
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Boykin was already picked.. Hmm...

Jayron Hosley? Phillip Blake? Markell Martin? George Iloka? Audie Cole? Sean Spence?
Iloka or Blake
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I wanted to go with Boykin. I was thinking that with his Senior Bowl injury that it would even push him down to us, but in my gut, I still don't think he reaches us in the 3rd. Would be nice though.
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2012 NFL DRAFT - ROUND 3 (Part II)



Commission Goddell: With the 82nd pick of the NFL draft the...

Dallas Cowboys select CB Jayron Hosley, Virginia Tech.


A ball hawk with the ability to find the ball in traffic, has big play ability and led the nation as an All-American corner with nine interceptions in 2010... Excellent hands and athleticism, which enables him to overcome his small stature... Opted against it at the combine, but has a reported 37-38"
vertical jump which allows Hosley to play like a taller corner... Good back pedal and fluid hips give him great change of direction speed... Excellent body control and catches the ball at its highest point, enabling him to beat taller but less sound receivers; aggressive and unafraid to take on big receivers... Intelligent player with excellent ball vision, makes few if any mental mistakes... Has the ability and experience to be a special teams return man... Exceptional in off and zone coverage, has proven to be one of the best in the nation... Willing to play close to the line and make tackles inside the box.


Read more: http://www.sidelinescouting.com/rank...#ixzz1oZmttsvN


I like Hosley, because I feel that this roster still needs help in the secondary, especially at the nickel corner spot where we need a quick cover corner who can stick like glue against shifty receivers coming out of their breaks or could stick with their guy running a go route. Hosley has that kind of ability and I think he's a good playmaker who plays better than his size suggests.


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2012 NFL DRAFT - ROUND 3 (Part II)



Commission Goddell: With the 82nd pick of the NFL draft the...

Dallas Cowboys select CB Jayron Hosley, Virginia Tech.


A ball hawk with the ability to find the ball in traffic, has big play ability and led the nation as an All-American corner with nine interceptions in 2010... Excellent hands and athleticism, which enables him to overcome his small stature... Opted against it at the combine, but has a reported 37-38"
vertical jump which allows Hosley to play like a taller corner... Good back pedal and fluid hips give him great change of direction speed... Excellent body control and catches the ball at its highest point, enabling him to beat taller but less sound receivers; aggressive and unafraid to take on big receivers... Intelligent player with excellent ball vision, makes few if any mental mistakes... Has the ability and experience to be a special teams return man... Exceptional in off and zone coverage, has proven to be one of the best in the nation... Willing to play close to the line and make tackles inside the box.


Read more: http://www.sidelinescouting.com/rank...#ixzz1oZmttsvN


I like Hosley, because I feel that this roster still needs help in the secondary, especially at the nickel corner spot where we need a quick cover corner who can stick like glue against shifty receivers coming out of their breaks or could stick with their guy running a go route. Hosley has that kind of ability and I think he's a good playmaker who plays better than his size suggests.


Called it. Not bad, I like his playmaking ability. We need someone in secondary who actually gets interceptions. Perfect #4 CB who could develop into more later on with added bulk and he should be able to to just that with Woicik. My only fear is that if we land Carr, Jerry won't think we need to add another CB until the late rounds if at all because of course we don't build on strengths. He did pick Scandrick the same year we picked Jenkins though, so it is possibly. Hopefully this time earlier than the 5th round.

I'm with you on this one.
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I like it...if this were the way the draft would go, I'd say it's an A- so far.
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I like it...if this were the way the draft would go, I'd say it's an A- so far.
That's cool. It's a little hard to project who will be available at our picks, but I'm trying to be realistic.

I know you didn't like Bruce Irvin, but I personally think very highly of him. We would probably have to mask some of his weaknesses but I think Hightower does that. Irvin attacks or plays man coverage (Hightower weakness) on passing downs. Hightower is in on running downs (Irvin's weakness - run stuffing). I can see Hightower lining up at OLB with Lee and Carter at ILB. When Irvin is at OLB, Lee and Carter are again at ILB. Irvin at OLB, Hightower at ILB or vice versa or Hightower at DE when you want to cause confusion. Just so many different looks you could create or play to your strengths. Throw Victor Butler into that rotation and you have some fresh legs and constant pressure.
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That's cool. It's a little hard to project who will be available at our picks, but I'm trying to be realistic.

I know you didn't like Bruce Irvin, but I personally think very highly of him. We would probably have to mask some of his weaknesses but I think Hightower does that. Irvin attacks or plays man coverage (Hightower weakness) on passing downs. Hightower is in on running downs (Irvin's weakness - run stuffing). I can see Hightower lining up at OLB with Lee and Carter at ILB. When Irvin is at OLB, Lee and Carter are again at ILB. Irvin at OLB, Hightower at ILB or vice versa or Hightower at DE when you want to cause confusion. Just so many different looks you could create or play to your strengths. Throw Victor Butler into that rotation and you have some fresh legs and constant pressure.
I think the thing that people aren't letting go of is the concept of "passing" and "running" downs. Those don't exist anymore. Teams pass on 1st and 2nd down now as often as they pass on 3rd down. If a team sees that you have big run stuffers in their who aren't that great in pass coverage or pass rush, they will call a passing play. You don't think Eli Manning will call an audible in a heart beat to a passing play if he sees Keith Brooking and Hightower on the field? Same goes for the other way. You don't think they will run a power right at Irvin/Butler?

There is less of an emphasis on "specialty" players and more on players who are athletic enough to play all 3 downs. Don't get me wrong, there is a place more things like a nickel linebacker and I have been an advocate for a guy like Sean Spence or Lavonte David, but having multiple goes who are only good at one thing and not the other is not a good situation to be in as a defense. One injury could blow that whole thing up, or just getting caught with the wrong guys on the field.

I bet that would happen a lot with Rob Ryan, who would try to get fancy with packages and just get flat out beat by the opposing team who is playing smart football and taking advantage of mismatches because his overrated *** would think he is smarter than he is.
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Called it. Not bad, I like his playmaking ability. We need someone in secondary who actually gets interceptions. Perfect #4 CB who could develop into more later on with added bulk and he should be able to to just that with Woicik. My only fear is that if we land Carr, Jerry won't think we need to add another CB until the late rounds if at all because of course we don't build on strengths. He did pick Scandrick the same year we picked Jenkins though, so it is possibly. Hopefully this time earlier than the 5th round.

I'm with you on this one.
Yes, this team is in desperate need for someone who capitalize on a tip drill. Speaking of guys who are perfect in the slot I am really starting to like Asa Jackson. Perfect size at a shade under 5'10 and 193 lbs, quick twitched and has the ability to shadow in man....runs mid a mid 4.4 forty and has a 37 in vert.... the thing I like most is he pursuits the ballcarrier and will tackle. Reminds me of Aaron Glenn.
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I think the thing that people aren't letting go of is the concept of "passing" and "running" downs. Those don't exist anymore. Teams pass on 1st and 2nd down now as often as they pass on 3rd down. If a team sees that you have big run stuffers in their who aren't that great in pass coverage or pass rush, they will call a passing play. You don't think Eli Manning will call an audible in a heart beat to a passing play if he sees Keith Brooking and Hightower on the field? Same goes for the other way. You don't think they will run a power right at Irvin/Butler?

There is less of an emphasis on "specialty" players and more on players who are athletic enough to play all 3 downs. Don't get me wrong, there is a place more things like a nickel linebacker and I have been an advocate for a guy like Sean Spence or Lavonte David, but having multiple goes who are only good at one thing and not the other is not a good situation to be in as a defense. One injury could blow that whole thing up, or just getting caught with the wrong guys on the field.

I bet that would happen a lot with Rob Ryan, who would try to get fancy with packages and just get flat out beat by the opposing team who is playing smart football and taking advantage of mismatches because his overrated *** would think he is smarter than he is.
Yeah, I think you over read my message. I don't think things would be cookie cutter like that, I'm more just talking versatility that allows the DC to put together different looks and packages to combat the offense different ways. What works once doesn't always work and vice versa.
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