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Old 03-11-2012, 02:37 PM    (permalink
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Ok you're fine gf.

I take Mike Trout, OF, L.A. Angels

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How is Trout available? I am so goddamn confused by who was kept as a minor league and who wasn't.
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From the front page:

1st round
1) D-Unit- Prince Fielder, 1B, Detroit Tigers
2) djp- Albert Pujols, 1B, L.A. Angels
3) charm- Yu Darvish, Japanese Pornstar, Texas Rangers
4) yo123- Paul Konerko, 1B, Chicago White Sox
5) bf51- Michael Young, 1B/3B, Texas Rangers
6) gf1080- Alex Avila, C, Detroit Tigers
7) marshallb- Howie Kendrick, 2B, L.A. Angels
8) xio- Doug Fister, P, Detroit Tigers

2nd round
9) xio- J.J. Hardy, SS, Baltimore Orioles
10) marshallb- Jeff Francouer, OF, Kansas City Royals
11) gf1080- Mark Reynolds, 1B/3B, Baltimore Orioles
12) bf51- Mike Moustakas, 3B, Kansas City Royals
13) yo123- Yunel Escobar, SS, Toronto Blue Jays
14) charm- Hiroki Kuroda, P, New York Yankees
15) djp- Brandon McCarthy, P, Oakland Athletics
16) d-unit- Derek Jeter, SS, New York Yankees

3rd round
17) d-unit- Jose Valverde, RP, Detroit Tigers
18) djp- Chris Sale, P, Chicago White Sox
19) charm- Joakim Soria, P, Kansas City Royals
20) yo123- Jemile Weeks, 2B, Oakland Athletics
21) bf51-Kelly Johnson, 2B, Toronto Blue Jays
22) giantsfan1080- Justin Masterson, P, Cleveland Indians
23) marshallb- Torii Hunter, OF, L.A. Angels
24) xio- Brandon League, RP, Seattle Mariners

4th round
25) xio- Carlos Pena, 1B, Tampa Bay Rays
26) marshallb- Scott Baker, P, Minnesota Twins
27) gf1080- Colby Rasmus, OF, Toronto Blue Jays
28) bf51- Adam Lind, 1B, Toronto Blue Jays
29) yo123- Matt Harrison, P, Texas Rangers
30) charm- Alex Rios, OF, Chicago White Sox
31) djp- Clay Buchholz, SP, Boston Red Sox
32) d-unit- Joe Nathan, RP, Texas Rangers

5th round
33) d-unit- Yoenis Cespedis, OF, Oakland Athletics
34) djp- Daniel Bard, P, Boston Red Sox
35) ccb- Mark Trumbo, 1B, L.A. Angels
36) yo123- Josh Willingham, OF, Minnesota Twins
37) bf51- Andrew Bailey, RP, Boston Red Sox
38) gf1080- Gavin Floyd, P, Chicago White Sox
39) marshallb- Coco Crisp, OF, Oakland Athletics
40) xio- Sergio Santos, RP, Toronto Blue Jays

6th round
41) xio- Austin Jackson, OF, Detroit Tigers
42) marshallb- Michael Brantley, OF, Cleveland Indians
43) gf1080- Matt Joyce, OF, Tampa Rays
44) bf51- John Danks, P, Chicago White Sox
45) yo123- Kyle Farnsworth, RP, Tampa Rays
46) ccb- Lonnie Chisenhall, 3B, Cleveland Indians
47) djp- Kurt Suzuki, C, Oakland Athletics
48) d-unit- Chris Perez, RP, Cleveland Indians

7th round
49) d-unit- Grant Balfour, RP, Oakland Athletics
50) djp- Denard Span, OF, Minnesota Twins
51) ccb- Jim Johnson, RP, Baltimore Orioles
52) yo123- Delmon Young, OF, Detroit Tigers
53) bf51- Edwin Encarnacion, 3B, Toronto Blue Jays
54) gf1080- Matt Capps, RP, Minnesota Twins
55) marshallb- David Robertson, RP, New York Yankees
56) xio-Brandon Boesch, OF, Detroit Tigers

8th round
57) xio- Matt Thornton, RP, Chicago White Sox
58) marshallb- Mitch Moreland, 1B/OF, Texas Rangers
59) giantsfan- Ivan Nova, P, New York Yankees
60) bf51- Mike Trout, OF, L.A. Angels
61) yo123- Jarrod Parker, P, Oakland Athletics
62) charm- Kendry Morales, 1B, L.A. Angels
63) djp- Addison Reed
64) d-unit- Adam Dunn

9th round
65) d-unit- Jonathan Sanchez, P
66) djp-
67) charm- Alejandro de Aza, OF, Chicago White Sox
68) yo123-
69) bf51-
70) gf1080-
71) marshallb-
72) xio-
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How is Trout available? I am so goddamn confused by who was kept as a minor league and who wasn't.
If someone is a Sept 1st call-up, they are eligible to be kept as a minor leaguer.

If they are on a major league roster before Sept 1st, they are not and either must be kept as a major league player, or are eligible to be drafted. This was discussed before the draft started and charm was fine with it.

If you're confused, just go to the minor league rosters. If someone isn't there, you can draft them.
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The significance of Sept 1st is that is when rosters expand to 40, and lots of players are called up just to get a sniff at the majors.
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How is Trout available? I am so goddamn confused by who was kept as a minor league and who wasn't.
My question is who had Trout and dropped him? Oh man.
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Charm. I was holding off because I already have a lot of OFs, but I didn't think he'd get back around to me. Apparently marshall was paying attention because he said he almost took him.
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My question is who had Trout and dropped him? Oh man.
I was told I couldn't keep him as a Minor Leaguer (even though he might start the year there) and couldn't warrant keeping him over Kipnis or Adam Jones. I felt like if he didn't break camp with the team I should of been able to keep him but w/e wasn't worth arguing.
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Not about when they break camp, he played most of last year in the majors.

You also had about 8 chances to re-draft him.
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Not about when they break camp, he played most of last year in the majors.

You also had about 8 chances to re-draft him.
so if the Angels say "Mike Trout is starting the season in the minors" you get the flexibility of putting him there, and drafting another roster spot? Seems like a loophole but w/e

I know I could of re-drafted him, but he has no value as a 5th OF, his value is as an amateur player, and I'm positive that's where you'll be putting him. Again it's w/e I'm not worried about it/ gonna argue about it.
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Not about when they break camp, he played most of last year in the majors.

You also had about 8 chances to re-draft him.
"Most of the year"? He played 40 games in the majors. They shouldn't have even called him up before September. I know the rules and understand the rules, but it kind of sucks for Charm. Besides, you probably won't even keep Trout anyways as a MLer with the guys you have.
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I suppose it's a loophole, but I've been pretty clear that you can draft whoever the hell you want so long as they aren't on someone else's roster. You can draft someone in Japan or Mexico if you want, so long as they exist.

Everyone will be drafting one player for their minor league rosters. You can do that whenever you want. I did it in the 8th round because I though Trout's future value demanded it.
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"Most of the year"? He played 40 games in the majors. They shouldn't have even called him up before September. I know the rules and understand the rules, but it kind of sucks for Charm. Besides, you probably won't even keep Trout anyways with the keepers you're bringing back. It's all good though, we know what we signed up for here.
This is pretty much how I feel, I wasn't allowed to keep him as a MiL but he will start the year on BF's MiL roster. It's an exploited a loophole, so it's not against the rules, so there isn't much I can do about it. It's a cheap move but also a smart one I guess.

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Everyone will be drafting one player for their minor league rosters. You can do that whenever you want. I did it in the 8th round because I though Trout's future value demanded it.
Still pretty ****** because I wasn't allowed to keep him in the same role you are starting him out in.
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This is pretty much how I feel, I wasn't allowed to keep him as a MiL but he will start the year on BF's MiL roster. It's an exploited a loophole, so it's not against the rules, so there isn't much I can do about it. It's a cheap move but also a smart one I guess.
How is it cheap? You could have drafted him at any point.

Everyone benefits from certain loopholes. Simply from sucking, djp has been able to acquire Albert Pujols and Robinson Cano in the last two years.
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Let's not kid ourselves. The entire setup of this league is a little peculiar.
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If we could have just kept our minor leaguers through ESPN and not through this thread, we'd be fine.
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Of course it is. It's an unconventional league. I just find this particular instance an weird thing to complain about.

On the minor league thing, I honestly have no idea how to do that. Especially because ESPN isn't the best about making players available.
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I absolutely agree that it's a cheap move -- not to mention those first year draftees who were first come first serve last year a day after the draft where no one else got a chance to pick them up. Bundy/Hultzen come to mind. That said, it's not "against the rules" per se so you're kind of SOL.

Anyways, I'll go with Justin Morneau in some sort of desperate attempt in good karma.
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How is it cheap? You could have drafted him at any point.

Everyone benefits from certain loopholes. Simply from sucking, djp has been able to acquire Albert Pujols and Robinson Cano in the last two years.

I was specifically told I couldn't keep him as a MiL, and you drafted him as one. You're a smart guy, you see how it's cheap, I don't need to explain it. I'm ok with it though, just think it was a ****** (albeit legal) move, especially for the commish to make.
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Holy ****.

You can draft a high school or college player WHENEVER YOU WANT. Do it now. Do it a day before the draft. It doesn't matter.
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