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Jim Thomas and Howard Balzer are reporting that a deal with DT Jason Jones could possibly be finished tonight.
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9ers resigned Carlos Rogers, Im even more glad we got Finnegan now. Jason Jones on the same day would be great
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Thinking about it, I actually would of rather kept Bartell and used the extra 5 million on a Linebacker or Lineman. Finnegan isn't that much of an upgrade over Bartell, if at all honestly. It's a shame how underrated Bartell was just because he didn't have any ball skills, his cover skills were ++
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Im not underrating Bartell, I know how good he was. But he broke his neck last year, one thing we never get the full story on is injury reports, they never make it to the media. I honestly think that if Bartell is not on this team its because of his injury history, not his talent level.

Finnegan's also supposed to be the best slot corner in the league. If Bartell was still here I would still want Finn.

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I don't mind Finnegan, he's a bit too up and down though. If we get good Finnegan then great, if we get not interested/bad Finnegan (and lets be honest, if you sign as a FA with the Rams, recent history suggests this is incredibly likely ) then it'll be a concern.

I would love them to make a play on Winston, would be a great signing and the right hand side of the line, at least on paper, would look real strong. Sadly the rest would still have huge ???.

Hopefully Jones and Finnegan deals become official today. I'm disappointed we didn't seem to be close with any of the FA WR's though, I guess that means Blackmon will be the pick at #6, if he's there.
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Thinking about it, I actually would of rather kept Bartell and used the extra 5 million on a Linebacker or Lineman. Finnegan isn't that much of an upgrade over Bartell, if at all honestly. It's a shame how underrated Bartell was just because he didn't have any ball skills, his cover skills were ++
And yet I've not seen one report about an interested team or a visit for him in free agency.
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And yet I've not seen one report about an interested team or a visit for him in free agency.

What does that have to do with anything? Its the first day and the market for corners won't be set until Finnegan, Porter and Rogers sign.
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What does that have to do with anything? Its the first day and the market for corners won't be set until Finnegan, Porter and Rogers sign.
You're saying the guy is basically on par with Finnegan, the top free agent corner, and yet he hasn't been mentioned as being in anyone's sights so far, let alone a visit.

Finnegan, Rogers, and Eric Wright have all gotten attention and have been signed since the start of free agency, not to mention Routt who signed in late February, Terrell Thomas who was re-signed by the Giants before the deadline, and Perrish Cox who signed with the 49ers. It's not as if the market has been silent at the position.

I think Bartell is a good corner but not the top talent many Rams fans like to believe he is. He didn't receive much interest the last time he hit free agency before re-signing with the Rams, and so far I've not even heard his name mentioned.
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You're saying the guy is basically on par with Finnegan, the top free agent corner, and yet he hasn't been mentioned as being in anyone's sights so far, let alone a visit.

Finnegan, Rogers, and Eric Wright have all gotten attention and have been signed since the start of free agency, not to mention Routt who signed in late February, Terrell Thomas who was re-signed by the Giants before the deadline, and Perrish Cox who signed with the 49ers. It's not as if the market has been silent at the position.

I think Bartell is a good corner but not the top talent many Rams fans like to believe he is. He didn't receive much interest the last time he hit free agency before re-signing with the Rams, and so far I've not even heard his name mentioned.
In 2009 he declined a deal with the Saints that was similiar to the Rams deal to stay in St. Louis.

And he's coming off a broken neck, teams will take their time signing him. Doesn't mean anything. Just extra caution.
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In 2009 he declined a deal with the Saints that was similiar to the Rams deal to stay in St. Louis.

And he's coming off a broken neck, teams will take their time signing him. Doesn't mean anything. Just extra caution.
A visit and contract offer (two days later mind you) from one other team in 2009. Like I said, not much interest around the league last go-round.

Teams have no reason to take their time if they agree he's among the most talented cornerbacks available; they should want to get him in ASAP, check him over, and sign him. Keep in mind he was cleared to resume playing back in December and passed his exit physical when cut, so it's not as if he's still healing or injured.

There is really no way to explain away the lack of interest as anything else but a disagreement in how the league perceives a player Rams fans think is top notch. There's no reason for teams to not be interested in Bartell if they agreed he was on Finnegan's level as a free agent corner.
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So why hasn't David Hawthorne had any interest?
The Lions, Saints, and Bears have all been mentioned as interested parties.
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We were in the top 5 oldest last year, thats a hell of a turnaround.

I saw that we are in contract negotiations with Jason Jones right now and hope for a deal done soon.
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I really like the Finnegan signing. This was one of the things I was most excited about when Fisher came aboard. When a new coach takes over a team, they almost always bring in some players from their old regime that they like and know their system, and will be good for changing the culture of their locker room. I was pretty disappointed, actually, that this didn't happen much (if at all) with Linehan or Spags.

There is a lot of talk about Jason Jones, as well. I admittedly know nothing about him, as I don't watch the Titans very often. Most of the articles I have been reading say he played DE last year, but is better suited inside. But we only weighs like 276? Could anyone expand on what kind of player he is and why he would be effective as a DT with such a small frame?
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I really like the Finnegan signing. This was one of the things I was most excited about when Fisher came aboard. When a new coach takes over a team, they almost always bring in some players from their old regime that they like and know their system, and will be good for changing the culture of their locker room. I was pretty disappointed, actually, that this didn't happen much (if at all) with Linehan or Spags.

There is a lot of talk about Jason Jones, as well. I admittedly know nothing about him, as I don't watch the Titans very often. Most of the articles I have been reading say he played DE last year, but is better suited inside. But we only weighs like 276? Could anyone expand on what kind of player he is and why he would be effective as a DT with such a small frame?
He was a Defensive Tackle when Fisher was in Tennessee. I've heard he's pretty comparable to Darnell Dockett. He's deffinetly an above average pass rusher at that position.

Be nice if we could get a fat Nose Tackle to team him up with, Maybe Fat Albert would want to redeem his image.
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I really like the Finnegan signing. This was one of the things I was most excited about when Fisher came aboard. When a new coach takes over a team, they almost always bring in some players from their old regime that they like and know their system, and will be good for changing the culture of their locker room. I was pretty disappointed, actually, that this didn't happen much (if at all) with Linehan or Spags.

There is a lot of talk about Jason Jones, as well. I admittedly know nothing about him, as I don't watch the Titans very often. Most of the articles I have been reading say he played DE last year, but is better suited inside. But we only weighs like 276? Could anyone expand on what kind of player he is and why he would be effective as a DT with such a small frame?
He didnt have a good season as a DE. Fisher used him as a DT and he showed alot of promise in his first 2 years there. He wont bull rush someone and stuff the run, but hes too fast for most guards to block. He may even be able to command double teams in passing situations, good news for Quinn's development and Long's 2013 Pro Bowl selection he wont accept since the Rams will be preparing for a Super Bowl victory.
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How is he against the run? Or is he more of a situational player? He obviously isn't the big run-plugger at that size. Did they use him in a lot of the same ways the Giants use smaller guys like Tuck on the inside on third downs?

Also, has anyone heard anything more about Eric Winston?
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How is he against the run? Or is he more of a situational player? He obviously isn't the big run-plugger at that size. Did they use him in a lot of the same ways the Giants use smaller guys like Tuck on the inside on third downs?

Also, has anyone heard anything more about Eric Winston?
From what Ive heard he is average against the run. Fisher always used him as a DT, not like Tuck who can play everywhere. He is a 3 down DT though, good enough against the run and above average pass rusher.
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Well that's impressive for a guy his size. I'm guessing that he would really benefit from having a big body next to him in the scheme, though. I'm not opposed to bringing in Haynesworth if he came in with a positive attitude and wanted to work hard. My guess is that everyone works hard on Fisher's team, though, so it probably wouldn't even happen unless the coaches were convinced that he was in a positive mindframe.
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Well that's impressive for a guy his size. I'm guessing that he would really benefit from having a big body next to him in the scheme, though. I'm not opposed to bringing in Haynesworth if he came in with a positive attitude and wanted to work hard. My guess is that everyone works hard on Fisher's team, though, so it probably wouldn't even happen unless the coaches were convinced that he was in a positive mindframe.
Michael Brockers (6'6" 322lbs) would fit that description as well. But then that begs the question, is he really a good value at 6th overall?
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Michael Brockers (6'6" 322lbs) would fit that description as well. But then that begs the question, is he really a good value at 6th overall?
When they take someone with the 6th I really hope its a guy that would be able to get a pass rush or develop it and become a 3 down DT. I heard during the combine the Rams were very impressed with the kid.

With the moves the Bucs are making right now though Im getting more hopeful that theyre lining up to draft Richardson. Leaving either Claiborne or Blackmon there.
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Sounds like DT Jones will in fact leave St. Louis to make his scheduled visit to Seattle.

https://twitter.com/#!/terrymc13/sta...48917780631552
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That's a shame. You cant let a player like that leave, expecially to go visit a division rival.
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