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Cadallic Williams 29 25.89%
Ronnie Brown 68 60.71%
Brandon Jacobs 15 13.39%
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Old 04-10-2007, 03:26 PM    (permalink
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Good for him, he played the skins twice.. He still sucks donkey nuggets...
well, than dont say he can only get you one yard. He got 4.4 last year. In case you didnt know, that is not 1 yard.
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I think caddy is by far the best of the bunch

1.caddy
2.ronnie
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Because Ronnie, Caddy, and Jacobs were all teammates for 1 year at Auburn. They were all rookies the same year. Basically, they're all lesser tier RB's, and this thread is useless.
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What mistake, saying that Brandon Jacobs is nothing more than a goaline back who has proven nothing as a starter? Until he proves something my opinion is the same of him..
Underrating him....and then watching him crush the hardest hitters on the field as if it was an 18 year old playing Pop Warner.
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Gotta love Skins fans. Forget the fact that the Giants mutilate their run defense, Jacobs suckzz@!!!!1111

Lets all pray that the Skins forever suck.
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Gotta love Skins fans. Forget the fact that the Giants mutilate their run defense, Jacobs suckzz@!!!!1111

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No Tiki Barber mutilates our defense....

Brandon Jacobs didn't do jack squat: 15 carries for 51 yards and 0 TDs for an average 3.4 YPC. And that was after Tiki finished raping our defense. Jacobs looks great behind Tiki, but lets see how well he does on his own.
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No Tiki Barber mutilates our defense....

Brandon Jacobs didn't do jack squat: 15 carries for 51 yards and 0 TDs for an average 3.4 YPC. And that was after Tiki finished raping our defense. Jacobs looks great behind Tiki, but lets see how well he does on his own.
To be honest, I have my worries as Ive stated earlier.

I think our oline dominates your dline moreso than Tiki your defense. You can't give up that many yards on the ground and be stoute at the point of attack. A RB cant do all that by himself, it has to be the dline just getting worked.

Thats the only thing I can think of.

And dont go by stats. Our offense was so predictable. Anytime Jacobs went in the game, you knew it was a run. Teams stacked the box everytime he went in. Whereas Tiki ran on nickel defenses.
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To be honest, I have my worries as Ive stated earlier.

I think our oline dominates your dline moreso than Tiki your defense. You can't give up that many yards on the ground and be stoute at the point of attack. A RB cant do all that by himself, it has to be the dline just getting worked.

Thats the only thing I can think of.

And dont go by stats. Our offense was so predictable. Anytime Jacobs went in the game, you knew it was a run. Teams stacked the box everytime he went in. Whereas Tiki ran on nickel defenses.
True, but Jacobs will be much easier to contain. He doesn't have the "get to edge speed" to outrun McIntosh or Washington. Or to take those little screens Tiki would break for 20+ yards.

Jacobs makes your offense even more predictable. Not to mention we got a real MLB this time. Finn is a great FB, but he would break through our DLine and push Marshall back 7+ yards every down. London Fletcher ain't gonna let that happen.

You can't defend him around the Goal line, but he can be contained elsewhere on the field. A lot more responsibility will fall on Manning to get your offense moving.
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Jacobs is nothing but a substandard back that has scored some TD's and good yards against reject players in the pre season. If you need 1 yard, he'll get you 1 yard. If you need 10 yards, he'll get you 1 yard. He's proved nothing and the Giants running game is in some trouble this year.
Yeah, Roy Williams is a reject player. There was a play against the cowboys last year where he carried about 6-8 players. You're an idiot and haven't watched a Giants game if you think he's only a short yardage back.

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Jacobs running style will be favorable for the 6-12 rushes a game. If he can sustain that style, effectively miss taking on the big hit, because more often than not he wastes energy and doesn't deliver the hit as is seen in the two youtube videos someone posted. If he was taught to run a little lower, leverage going more forward, and too miss some hits, then he could be a highly effective full load carrying back. But he has yet to do that.
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True, but Jacobs will be much easier to contain. He doesn't have the "get to edge speed" to outrun McIntosh or Washington. Or to take those little screens Tiki would break for 20+ yards.

Jacobs makes your offense even more predictable. Not to mention we got a real MLB this time. Finn is a great FB, but he would break through our DLine and push Marshall back 7+ yards every down. London Fletcher ain't gonna let that happen.

You can't defend him around the Goal line, but he can be contained elsewhere on the field. A lot more responsibility will fall on Manning to get your offense moving.
It seems that people still think Jacobs is just a slow Goal Line RB...he's not. He actually ran a 4.5, and he's shown he can run a good screen. I remember last year on a 3rd and long play they threw him a screen and he got the first down on it. Against the Colts he leaped over a defender; he can make people miss. He is athletic.
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True, but Jacobs will be much easier to contain. He doesn't have the "get to edge speed" to outrun McIntosh or Washington. Or to take those little screens Tiki would break for 20+ yards.

Jacobs makes your offense even more predictable. Not to mention we got a real MLB this time. Finn is a great FB, but he would break through our DLine and push Marshall back 7+ yards every down. London Fletcher ain't gonna let that happen.

You can't defend him around the Goal line, but he can be contained elsewhere on the field. A lot more responsibility will fall on Manning to get your offense moving.
That is actually a very good post, and I don't wanna hear this trash that Jacobs is a great breakaway runner because of a 4.5 40 please, Jacobs is a good back no doubt but he hardly scares me like the other 2 backs in this poll.
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That is actually a very good post, and I don't wanna hear this trash that Jacobs is a great breakaway runner because of a 4.5 40 please, Jacobs is a good back no doubt but he hardly scares me like the other 2 backs in this poll.
His 40 time is 4.56, I hate how homers round down so drastically. His 3 cone is 7.53 (bad), that is a true indicator of his quickness and elusiveness. He has the body and agility of a TE, and that's not a good thing at the RB position.

It's shocking to see how many votes he got, but the most shocking thing is that most if not all of those votes were serious and not just homer jokes....
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His 40 time is 4.56, I hate how homers round down so drastically. His 3 cone is 7.53 (bad), that is a true indicator of his quickness and elusiveness. He has the body and agility of a TE, and that's not a good thing at the RB position.

It's shocking to see how many votes he got, but the most shocking thing is that most if not all of those votes were serious and not just homer jokes....
Or neither Brown or Cadillac are that good.
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Ronnie Brown and its not even close.
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Or neither Brown or Cadillac are that good.
Or maybe you're not that good and you're a troll....? That's about right.
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The fact he falls forward most times helps him alot.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=P0K79UadKh4

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THE FACT THAT PEOPLE ARE ON HIS JUNK MAKE ME SICK. Once he proves that he can get 300+ carries and sustain what he does, then you can open your mouths or bend over.
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Jacobs running style will be favorable for the 6-12 rushes a game. If he can sustain that style, effectively miss taking on the big hit, because more often than not he wastes energy and doesn't deliver the hit as is seen in the two youtube videos someone posted. If he was taught to run a little lower, leverage going more forward, and too miss some hits, then he could be a highly effective full load carrying back. But he has yet to do that
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I haven't seen many say that Jacobs is the best. I don't get where all the hate is coming from.

He has potential, but like Ive stated MANY times in this thread, I don't know if he's a fulltime back.

He has slow acceleration and can't drop his hips well. He's by far the least complete of the bunch. And he's very raw.

But that doesn't mean he can't work. Ive been extremely critical of him in the past only to be proven wrong. So I'll bite my tongue on him for now.

I still question his ability to be a fulltime back. But Im not gonna blow him off as garbage either.
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Ah...calling someone a troll because you don't like their opinion and can't refute it.

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Classic troll post. I don't see any opinion, just a statement intended to cause a reaction. I forgive you if you didn't vote for Jacobs, though.

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Classic troll post. I don't see any opinion, just a statement intended to cause a reaction. I forgive you if you didn't vote for Jacobs, though.



Inserting yourself into another's argument without looking over the circumstances.

A classic move from a Hall of Famer.
What circumstances am I missing here?
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Classic troll post. I don't see any opinion, just a statement intended to cause a reaction. I forgive you if you didn't vote for Jacobs, though.



Inserting yourself into another's argument without looking over the circumstances.

A classic move from a Hall of Famer.
Take an entire 5 seconds and check out the 2nd pst from the bottom of page 2 in this thread.

And then get back to me.

And then admit you're wrong.

And then apologize.
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Take an entire 5 seconds and check out the 2nd pst from the bottom of page 2 in this thread.

And then get back to me.

And then admit you're wrong.

And then apologize.
I'm not going to look because I heard what you said before. I said it's cool already, but if you want an apology, then sure.

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