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Old 04-06-2007, 04:19 PM    (permalink
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You all are funny as hell making a skins bashing thread, and how we are running our franchise down trying to acquire old big contract players, do you know how old Briggs and Samuel are?
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Umm...you do understand that Briggs does not fit in the 3-4, nor does Samuels fit in the Cover 2?

Its like me trading american power tools for metric system power tools, even though I own an american car, and the guy I trade with has a japanese car. It makes no sense at all.
Briggs does not fit in the 3-4 you are correct, but Samuel is ideal for the cover 2. He is versatile - able to play zone or man - a ball hawk, a run supporter, his only knock is lack of ideal height and less than stellar speed. He is protected in the Patriots scheme almost as a cover 2 corner - he almost always has deep help.

I certainly don't want Briggs for the Patriots though.
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Old 04-09-2007, 11:50 AM    (permalink
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Cin
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thats a good deal, Cin gets alot of help at a needed postion and Pats get another frist which maybe they can move up and grab CJ!!
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Old 04-09-2007, 12:03 PM    (permalink
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I'd do it if Cincy threw in a third...
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Yeah, Samuel is a bit more valuable than that. With a 3rd, I would do it.
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Old 04-09-2007, 12:17 PM    (permalink
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thats a good deal, Cin gets alot of help at a needed postion and Pats get another frist which maybe they can move up and grab CJ!!
i dont think Samuel has been to jail..
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Old 04-10-2007, 11:42 AM    (permalink
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Pats are close to signing Tory James (Bengals). This could be a sign that a trade is in mind, or Randall *** is going to get an offer from the Jets.
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Samuel gets traded, then the Pats would have the ammo to move up to 14 to get Nelson. And still have a possible first round pick.
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i dont think Samuel has been to jail..
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anyways, i wouldnt wanna give up our first rounder, but id be really interested in getting asante.
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I'd love to see him come to Detroit, id do a swap of Asante both and both NE 1sts for #2 overall. I think thats even for both teams Pats get rid of a distraction and add the best player in this draft. WR isnt a huge need but to add a guy like CJ21 and pair him with Chad Jackson, you gotta jump on it.

The Lions get 2 firsts and a CB with great experience.
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Samuel gets traded, then the Pats would have the ammo to move up to 14 to get Nelson. And still have a possible first round pick.
As of right now, the Pats don't need to trade up at all. Nelson will be there at 24, and maybe even 28.
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As of right now, the Pats don't need to trade up at all. Nelson will be there at 24, and maybe even 28.
No way. Who do you think he is, Michael Griffin?

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As of right now, the Pats don't need to trade up at all. Nelson will be there at 24, and maybe even 28.
no he wont. the jags or bengals, prolly the jags, will pick him up
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Old 04-10-2007, 08:29 PM    (permalink
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if Patriots move up its for

CJ, Thomas or Landry(if we go top 10)

if we move up to 11-15 we might target Willis

also throw in AP..2 great RBs would be amazing.
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I don't blame him. The Patriots won't pay him $65 million because they're smart. Some team will and they can trade Samuel and move up in the draft. That's the ***** of being tagged.
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I'd love to see him come to Detroit, id do a swap of Asante both and both NE 1sts for #2 overall. I think thats even for both teams Pats get rid of a distraction and add the best player in this draft. WR isnt a huge need but to add a guy like CJ21 and pair him with Chad Jackson, you gotta jump on it.

The Lions get 2 firsts and a CB with great experience.
Considering the Lions track record with first round picks, they should just do #2 for Samuel straight up. Guaranteed not to blow that one.

But yeah, no chance in hell they get both 1sts and Asante. We wouldn't do it. I can say that with 100% confidence...
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I agree, it'd be a huge waste. Asante and 24 for the #2 perhaps. But I can't see the Pats doing this anyway, it adds a big rookie contract they have to give out, and they lose a first rounder. Won't happen. Skins, on the otherhand, seems very possible. But be assured the Pats will milk them for everything they can, the only possibility I see is Asante for the #6 alone. There are going to be many good players at 24 and 28 the pats can pick from, why give one up.
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I don't think you'll see Asante play anywhere but in NE This year. They have made FA moves geared to getting a team that was close to the Superbowl BACK to the Superbowl. I don't believe BB and SP would want to let a veteran with that impact not be a part of the mix. That decision was made as part of the entire package of moves made since the end of the year. He won't be traded, they will probably not get anything done until deadlines get close. I would guess that the options would be :

1 play for the franchise tender
2 accept a longterm deal for a great deal less than he is presently seeking.
3 force a trade ala Branch in the late stages of pre season.
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No way Pats will trade Samuel to get a top 10 pick. A top 10 pick doesn't have great value for the cap.
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