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03-08-2012, 01:38 AM
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Alshon still in his top 5 interesting. Sean Spence as a MLB?
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03-08-2012, 12:18 PM
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Alshon still in his top 5 interesting. Sean Spence as a MLB?
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Alshon is still on the cusp awaiting his 40 time.
Mayock loves Spence's natural instinct for the position but was really disappointed in his bench press. He is very quick to diagnose a play and moves quickly to fill a hole which Mayock loves about him.
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4/2
Quarterback
1. Andrew Luck, Stanford
2. Robert Griffin III, Baylor
3. Ryan Tannehill, Texas A&M
4. Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State
5. Kirk Cousins, Michigan State
Running Back
1. Trent Richardson, Alabama
2. Doug Martin, Boise State
3. David Wilson, Virginia Tech
4. Lamar Miller, Miami (Fla.)
5. LaMichael James, Oregon
Wide Receiver
1. Justin Blackmon, Oklahoma State
2. Michael Floyd, Notre Dame
3. Kendall Wright, Baylor
4. Stephen Hill, Georgia Tech
5. Alshon Jeffery, South Carolina
Tight End
1. Coby Fleener, Stanford
2. Dwayne Allen, Clemson
3. Orson Charles, Georgia
4. Ladarius Green, Louisiana-Lafayette
5. James Hanna, Oklahoma
Offensive Tackle
1. Matt Kalil, USC
2. Riley Reiff, Iowa
3. Mike Adams, Ohio State
4. Jonathan Martin, Stanford
5. Cordy Glenn, Georgia
Rise: Adams (4)
Fall: Martin (3)
Guard
1. David DeCastro, Stanford
2. Kevin Zeitler, Wisconsin
3. Amini Silatolu, Midwestern State
4. Kelechi Osemele, Iowa State
5. Brandon Brooks, Miami (Ohio)
Center
1. Peter Konz, Wisconsin
2. Philip Blake, Baylor
3. Ben Jones, Georgia
4. David Molk, Michigan
5. Michael Brewster, Ohio State
Defensive End
1. Quinton Coples, North Carolina
2. Courtney Upshaw, Alabama
3. Nick Perry, USC
4. Chandler Jones, Syracuse
5. Vinny Curry, Marshall
New Entry: Jones
Out: Jared Crick, Nebraska (5)
Fall: Curry (4)
Defensive Tackle
1. Fletcher Cox, Mississippi State
2. Jerel Worthy, Michigan State
3. Michael Brockers, LSU
4. Dontari Poe, Memphis
T-5. Kendall Reyes, Connecticut
T-5. Devon Still, Penn St.
Rise: Cox (2), Worthy (4)
Fall: Poe (1)
Outside Linebacker
1. Melvin Ingram, South Carolina
2. Shea McClellin, Boise State
3. Whitney Mercilus, Illinois
4. Andre Branch, Clemson
5. Ronnell Lewis, Oklahoma
Rise: McClellin (5)
Fall: Mercilus (2), Branch (3), Lewis (4)
Inside Linebacker
1. Luke Kuechly, Boston College
2. Dont'a Hightower, Alabama
3. Mychal Kendricks, California
4. Keenan Robinson, Texas
5. Sean Spence, Miami
Cornerback
1. Morris Claiborne, LSU
2. Stephon Gilmore, South Carolina
3. Dre Kirkpatrick, Alabama
4. Janoris Jenkins, North Alabama
5. Josh Robinson, Central Florida
Safety
1. Mark Barron, Alabama
2. Harrison Smith, Notre Dame
3. Brandon Taylor, LSU
4. DeQuan Menzie, Alabama
5. Phillip Thomas, Syracuse
Bout time on Fletcher Cox. McClellin love. Poe fall predictable. Chandler Jones rise is interesting.
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04-02-2012, 06:37 PM
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I still think he is underrating Rueban Randle.
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04-02-2012, 10:18 PM
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Finally some Jerel worthy love from Mayock
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04-03-2012, 05:44 AM
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Good to see Shea McClellin getting some love.
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04-03-2012, 06:36 AM
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By the way where is his latest mock draft?
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04-03-2012, 07:38 AM
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Finally some Jerel worthy love from Mayock
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He had him in that #2 slot early on but dropped him after the combine, glad to see he came back to his senses.
Although I'm a little surprised that Brandon Thompson is absent from his DT rankings, I would have easily put him over Poe and Reyes.
I'd have them:
1. Michael Brockers
2. Jerel Worthy
3. Devon Still
4. Brandon Thompson
5. Fletcher Cox
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04-03-2012, 08:41 AM
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This may suck for Steelers fans. What to do if Poe, Martin, Glenn, and Hightower are all there at 24? Choices, choices.
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04-03-2012, 08:43 AM
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glad to see he's high on gilmore as I have been for a while and Mayock is usually spot on with his DB rankings
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04-03-2012, 08:50 AM
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UFC Light-Heavyweight Champion Jon "Bones" Jones. One of the most athletic and explosive fighters in the history of the UFC. Sounds like Chandler Jones has good blood.
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04-03-2012, 10:43 AM
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Seeing Taylor and Menzie in the top 5 S rankings is new to me.
Sean Spence at Mike makes no sense though
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04-03-2012, 11:10 AM
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Seeing Taylor and Menzie in the top 5 S rankings is new to me.
Sean Spence at Mike makes no sense though
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The Safety class after Barron and Smith is very weak and making the top 5 still leaves you in round 3 or 4 at best.
Sean Spence has the best instincts for the position after Kuechly but needs a lot of work on his body but the talent is there if he will put in the time.
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By the way where is his latest mock draft?
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He hates doing mocks. He does just one the day before the draft.
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04-03-2012, 04:23 PM
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Alshon still in his top 5 interesting. Sean Spence as a MLB?
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Think Jon Beason as his upside. Spence can play inside or out in the 4-3, especially if he's on a team with some big DTs.
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Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
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Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.
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04-03-2012, 04:26 PM
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This may suck for Steelers fans. What to do if Poe, Martin, Glenn, and Hightower are all there at 24? Choices, choices.
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You take Hightower or Poe and let Glenn and Martin, but mostly Glenn, keep falling so the giants cna get them.
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"How's it going with that popey changey thing?"
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Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
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Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.
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04-03-2012, 05:14 PM
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He had him in that #2 slot early on but dropped him after the combine, glad to see he came back to his senses.
Although I'm a little surprised that Brandon Thompson is absent from his DT rankings, I would have easily put him over Poe and Reyes.
I'd have them:
1. Michael Brockers
2. Jerel Worthy
3. Devon Still
4. Brandon Thompson
5. Fletcher Cox
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Cox 5th? /ten
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Very surprised to see Foles over Osweiler or Cousins at that #5 QB spot.
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Foles will eventually be starting grade IMO. I have strong doubts about the other two. Oesweiler could, but the will to do the needed work is at issue. I do not see Cousins as being physically able.
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04-04-2012, 08:39 AM
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This may suck for Steelers fans. What to do if Poe, Martin, Glenn, and Hightower are all there at 24? Choices, choices.
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Id go:
Poe - to stop the ravens from getting him and creating a monster dline of our own
Glenn- instanly makes everyone on the line better, except probably the bum we have at the other guard spot (if we took glenn id be so down to take brooks or washington in 2)
Hightower- i like him a lot and i think he will be the pick, but thats because i dont think those 2 will be there
Martin- i just hate him lol
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04-04-2012, 09:11 AM
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The safety rankings are very different than most; Taylor has been rumored to be moving up boards but Menzie and Thomas probably don't deserve to be ranked that high after running in the 4.7s. Antonio Allen, George Iloka, or Markelle Martin would be possible replacements there.
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I am intrigued by Stephen Hill remaining at 4, especially considering what seems to be an internet backlash against him on sites like this.
There must be something that Mayock seems to keep Hill at 4 over Jeffery, Randle and others that have done well at their Pro Days?
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I would take Jenkins over Gilmore, probably Kirkpatrick as well. Gilmore is a late 1st-early 2nd round talent, but man his footwork is atrocious.
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I am intrigued by Stephen Hill remaining at 4, especially considering what seems to be an internet backlash against him on sites like this.
There must be something that Mayock seems to keep Hill at 4 over Jeffery, Randle and others that have done well at their Pro Days?
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Insane potential, a good head on his shoulders and enough flashes of the greatness he's capable of to justify spending a premium pick on him? Hill has a lot in common with JPP coming out, if he similar lands in a great situation we could be talking about the hands down best Receivers from this draft class and a guy who's in the top conversation for receivers league wide.
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Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
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Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.
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Insane potential, a good head on his shoulders and enough flashes of the greatness he's capable of to justify spending a premium pick on him? Hill has a lot in common with JPP coming out, if he similar lands in a great situation we could be talking about the hands down best Receivers from this draft class and a guy who's in the top conversation for receivers league wide.
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I agree, prospects like Hill are definitely worth the risk. The bust potential in Jeffery and even Wright, is far higher than Hill's and the reward potential of Hill may even be higher than Floyd's or Blackmon's. You cannot teach 6'4", 214lbs. with 4.36 40 speed. The place where he is particularly raw, is catching a ball among a crowd, there he has very little experience because of his college system but worst case scenario, he is a constant deep threat like Torrey Smith of Baltimore and I think he has more upside than Torrey.
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