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Old 04-19-2012, 03:37 PM    (permalink
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For those claiming that LA has failed twice to support an NFL team, no modern team could ever be financially successful in LA Coliseum. That is why the Rams and Raiders failed. LA wants to build a downtown stadium that is top of the line, that will bring the people.
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For those claiming that LA has failed twice to support an NFL team, no modern team could ever be financially successful in LA Coliseum. That is why the Rams and Raiders failed. LA wants to build a downtown stadium that is top of the line, that will bring the people.
Eh...I'll believe it when I see it. I have no doubt that people will come to games if a nice stadium is built, but there are still serious issues of who is going to pay for it. If it's difficult to raise taxes in Minnesota, it's impossible to raise them in L.A. right now. I'm not sold on the entirely private-funded stadium.

The untold part about this is that the league likes not having a team in L.A., because it puts pressure on all 32 cities to publicly support their teams. After the L.A. market is filled, what's going to take it's place? San Antonio? Portland?
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LA is just not a very good sports city. The fans here are nothing but bandwagonners and they piss me the **** off. Stupid ass *************. But...meh...I'll just sit back keep watching Da Raidas!...and laugh when whatever team they bring over(not Oakland of course) fails.
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LA does not suck. you shut your mouth when youre talkin about LA
Funny that you mention this. In recent negotiations with the Taliban, I offered them unlimited dirty bombing of the City of Angels in exchange for them leaving the lovely country of Afghanistan.

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So what's left to do in Minnesota? Ice fishing, eating nasty norwegian cheese and watch best leg hair growth contests between the females?

I still see the state/city caving on this in the end, very few cities would take San Francisco's approach and let a team walk without making a real attempt to retain the team.
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well san francisco's deal is a little different. they'll still be known as the san francisco 49ers, they just moved down the highway
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The entire state legislature is up for re-election this fall & they are too chicken-**** to get this done.

But, it is time for the queens/nfl to play hardball. The "Minnesota Nice" thing has gotten them nowhere so far.
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Eh...I'll believe it when I see it. I have no doubt that people will come to games if a nice stadium is built, but there are still serious issues of who is going to pay for it. If it's difficult to raise taxes in Minnesota, it's impossible to raise them in L.A. right now. I'm not sold on the entirely private-funded stadium.

The untold part about this is that the league likes not having a team in L.A., because it puts pressure on all 32 cities to publicly support their teams. After the L.A. market is filled, what's going to take it's place? San Antonio? Portland?
It's already been negotiated and agreed upon by the city of council. AEG is funding the whole thing 100% no tax payer dollars. The thing that is going to suck is the traffic it will bring...

Also there will be a parking structure so no tailgating. thats going to suck.

I for one don't really want a team =/


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I hope the Vikings stay in Minnesota.
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Looks like it could be a Vikings and Raiders pair in L.A. potentially if things work out in the NFL's favor. Mark Davis was seen courtside with one of the wealthy potential stadium exectuative's not too long ago and with the way things look in Oakland I doubt a stadium will ever be built.
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It's already been negotiated and agreed upon by the city of council. AEG is funding the whole thing 100% no tax payer dollars. The thing that is going to suck is the traffic it will bring...

Also there will be a parking structure so no tailgating. thats going to suck.

I for one don't really want a team =/

Farmers Field? Really?
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Yeah, I still don't see it. When is construction supposed to begin? A lot of things are "agreed upon" (like the new Vikings stadium, for example) but it doesn't mean much until shovels hit the ground.
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99% of you guys weren't born early enough to be in my shoes, but I have some serious deja vu going. This is getting really eerie for me. The team wants a new stadium. The Mayor and the Governor are saying "Oh, yeah, sure, no problem. Please don't leave!" The state legislature is posturing in an attempt to prove that they have a giant swinging dick...



Even the things both sides are saying to the press are almost exactly the same. I hate it, but **** has gotten real...and I can't blame the team. I've been to the Metrodome a number of times. It's a horrible dump.

Having the Rams in the division instead of the Queens is going to take some getting used to.
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Yeah the Metrodome is absolutely awful. I can't blame them either, but I still don't want to spend a dime of my money building them a stadium.
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This wouldn't happen. The 49ers and Rams have been rivals for decades and have the longest history within the division between any two combined teams.
No one gives a **** about the Rams-49ers "rivalry". WTF? Never even heard of such a thing.
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There is so much potential for disaster with Chris Cook roaming the streets of Los Angeles past 2 AM. I'll start the odds of him getting stabbed in a Compton White Castle with a shiv made out of a potato peeler at 10:1. Let the betting commence. On a very slightly more serious note, this would create so many bandwagon fans that it would piss me off. In all reality, probably not that many at all cause they're the Vikings, but enough for me to maybe encounter one in my life. I take pride in being one of the 4 Vikings fans on the East coast. It's a comforting thought to know that if we ever win a Super Bowl (I almost had myself there) that I'll be the only person in the country streaking east of Sheboygan.
I'll take that bet because there are no White Castles in socal.

I think an LA team would be successful. I can see the team having a Los Angeles Angels kind of following, with it being more of a friendy, family-oriented atmosphere. I'll be going to at least one game every 8 years to watch them play the Browns.

The stadium would be a better waste of money than a bullet train.

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I don't care if lawmakers tell the Vikings to go pound sand, but I hope they aren't thinking that NFL will just give them a new team in a few years. Minneapolis isn't Houston, and the Vikings aren't the Browns. If the Vikings move, Minneapolis probably goes to the back of the qeue when the NFL decides to expand.
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So you're saying they're going to win a Super Bowl??
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Why doesn't the NFL and it's giant cash cow league simply Build the ******* stadium itself. If there is a commitment to keeping the team in Minnesota. Simply do it yourself and tell the local government to go **** itself when it wants to use the arena to attract celebrity acts to the area.
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Why doesn't the NFL and it's giant cash cow league simply Build the ******* stadium itself. If there is a commitment to keeping the team in Minnesota. Simply do it yourself and tell the local government to go **** itself when it wants to use the arena to attract celebrity acts to the area.
because they would rather use taxpayer money to build a stadium and then have it's ownership handed over to the team owner.
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Yeah the Metrodome is absolutely awful. I can't blame them either, but I still don't want to spend a dime of my money building them a stadium.


Maybe they are getting started? ;)

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I don't care if lawmakers tell the Vikings to go pound sand, but I hope they aren't thinking that NFL will just give them a new team in a few years. Minneapolis isn't Houston, and the Vikings aren't the Browns. If the Vikings move, Minneapolis probably goes to the back of the qeue when the NFL decides to expand.
The qeue consisting of who? That's the primary reason why the NFL doesn't want to expand beyond 32 teams. Where, besides Europe or Canada, would you possibly go? Portland? San Antonio? Las Vegas? The list gets incredibly short, incredibly fast.
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