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Old 04-19-2012, 01:33 PM    (permalink
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What do the Janoris Jenkins doubters have to say about this? Jenkins didnt fail a single test since Florida and this guy fails the one at his biggest job interview of his life.
I basically put Mike Adams in the 2nd round anyway, and I think regardless of this, he's still a second round pick. Janoris Jenkins' pot smoking is, again, the least of my concerns. Completely different story with Adams. He's a very talented LT prospect, but he's going to have a chip on his shoulder in the NFL. He's had some added off the field issues, and nobody is mistaking this guy for a workhorse. You know, the type to be the first in and last out.
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Adams has given teams way too much evidence that he cannot be relied on. I wouldn't exactly be surprised if he went in the first round but it would probably take a team with poor judgment to make that pick. Chemistry and dependability are two of the hallmarks of any good offensive line; that chemistry is hard to build when you have players getting hurt or serving suspensions for failed drug tests. Quite a few top players bust every year and this guy has more flags than the United Nations.
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And the one prospect I like from tOSU! Ugh.
Hallam, you are a Buckeye fan and you like Mike Adams as a pro prospect?

Have you WATCHED our game the past few seasons. I think Terrelle Pryor is still having nightmares from multiple years of beatdowns from Ryan Kerrigan, Jared Odrick, etc.
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Adams has a problem if this is true.

Part of the Tat5 scandal involved pot.

He couldn't lay off the weed before the combine.

He is a moron. WTF.
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I don't think he was a first round lock before this, so it wouldn't surprise me at all to see him go in the early 2nd round. People wanted to ignore his combine, but a big part of his stock climbing as high as it did was the perception that he was an excellent athlete.
Had nothing to do with his excellent game tape or shutting down some of the major pass rush prospects at the senior bowl? :P


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I agree, it's unfortunate but true.
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Had nothing to do with his excellent game tape or shutting down some of the major pass rush prospects at the senior bowl? :P

Excellent game tape??? Watch his junior year (only full year as a starter). He got mauled by Kerrigan, Watt, etc.

He is SOFT
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im starting to think your thing with adams is on a personal level
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weed smoking + tattoo scandal = murder duhhhhhh
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I think the quality, and lack of quality, of Adams' tape is overstated by fans and draftniks. He's much more of a middle of the road kind of prospect.

But none of this has to do with the fact that Adams hurt his stock badly by failing a drug test, and that his stock was originally hurt due to the relative scarcity of quality OT prospects (compared to past years, this is not a good OT class.)
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Excellent game tape??? Watch his junior year (only full year as a starter). He got mauled by Kerrigan, Watt, etc.

He is SOFT
LOL

One, I hope you know that Watt didn't go against Mike Adams for a majority of the game and neither of Watts sacks came against Mike Adams.

Feel free to watch as Mike Adams neutralizes Watt almost every time they are matched up on each other



Kerrigan had a good game against him but still only achieved one sack.
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Kerrigan had a good game against him two years in a row, if by good game you mean completely dominated him. We wouldn't be talking about Mike Adams going in the first two rounds of the draft had he not been protecting Terrelle Pryor, one of the most sack averse QB's in recent history, for a year and a half and Braxton Miller another very elusive guy for half a year.

I also love how Mike Adams plays the "I needed the money" card from Tatgate. He grew up in a rich suburb of Columbus and in a house that's probably worth 400k+ and right down the street from Brady Quinn.

I have nothing personal against Mike Adams but watching every game of his college career I likely have a better feel than almost anyone on here. But its ok rep me down since you all are the real experts haha
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damn, first you say how you always knew he was a smoker from seeing how he acts at bars and now you are unveiling his net worth because of the valuation youve given his house.

what other stories can you break? lol
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Kerrigan had a good game against him two years in a row, if by good game you mean completely dominated him.
We wouldn't be talking about Mike Adams going in the first two rounds of the draft had he not been protecting Terrelle Pryor, one of the most sack averse QB's in recent history, for a year and a half and Braxton Miller another very elusive guy for half a year.
Is his QB why he looked good in the senior bowl too? Or do you have another excuse for that one?

The guy has had some bad games, we already knew he was inconsistent at times.

Also what is your excuse for your claims about Watt?

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Not really sure what this has to do with anything we were talking about even if it is true.

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Something tells me you do.

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Your right, I probably haven't watched every game that was televised, including purchasing the BTN to watch the ones which weren't widely televised.

I also like the, "I have a more informed opinion than you," approach after your claims that he struggled against Watt which were decidedly false.
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Is his QB why he looked good in the senior bowl too? Or do you have another excuse for that one?

The guy has had some bad games, we already knew he was inconsistent at times.

Also what is your excuse for your claims about Watt?
He may have had a good Senior Bowl, I only caught the second half. I think scouts are more concerned with how a player practices that week, anyway. I still argue he was not getting consistent push on JJ Watt in the run game against Wisconsin. And you can't be 'inconsistent at times'. If you don't produce consistently, by definition you are inconsistent.

But if you think you're an expert from watching an Olineman on TV I wouldn't trust many of your opinions. Out of curiousity, where do you think he should be drafted?

Also - do you live in Columbus? Because it was a running joke among Buckeye fans in the city how big of busts he and JB Shugarts were.
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so youre faulting him for having inconsistent games against two of the top 10 rookie defensive players last season?
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everything ive seen from watt looks animalistic.

im studying for the lsats, so this is good practice:

JJ Watt is a beast, he makes most tackles look foolish on occasion
Mike Adams held the man child in check for the most part

therefore, mike adams is soft and has money for tattoos because of a $400k valuation of his childhood home.






damnit that doesnt work, back to the books for me
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everything ive seen from watt looks animalistic.

im studying for the lsats, so this is good practice:

JJ Watt is a beast, he makes most tackles look foolish on occasion
Mike Adams held the man child in check for the most part

therefore, mike adams is soft and has money for tattoos because of a $400k valuation of his childhood home.






damnit that doesnt work, back to the books for me
Don't be an idiot. And don't go to law school unless you're going tier 1 or have parents to foot the bill for you. Unless you like 100k in debt and working for 35-50k when you graduate, if you can find a job.
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so youre faulting him for having inconsistent games against two of the top 10 rookie defensive players last season?
He had an inconsistent game against Watt. But he was consistent against Kerrigan. Consistently DOMINATED. And last i checked it's the NFL you're going to go up against players like this every week. There are no slouches.
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He had an inconsistent game against Watt. But he was consistent against Kerrigan. Consistently DOMINATED. And last i checked it's the NFL you're going to go up against players like this every week. There are no slouches.
Have you seen some of the NFL rosters? Haha.
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He had an inconsistent game against Watt. But he was consistent against Kerrigan. Consistently DOMINATED. And last i checked it's the NFL you're going to go up against players like this every week. There are no slouches.
It was hardly an inconsistent game, Watt didn't do **** against him. Thats why they moved him to the left side where he got his two sacks
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I think mike adams had lots of sex with someone's girlfriend and they are very upset about it.
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And ofc he had to get busted for weed 2 days after I had him going to Detroit at #23 in the mockdraft podcast, saying the Lions would probably shy away from Janoris Jenkins and Dre Kirkpatrick because they got busted for smoking... Damn you Mike Adams, lol :-)
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It says he's been up front with teams about smoking since he learned the result. i'm sure teams ask every prospect whether they smoke or not, wonder if he answered honestly beforehand.
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Whats the process for the combine drug test? Do they watch you or is it unsupervised?
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Whats the process for the combine drug test? Do they watch you or is it unsupervised?
Do they watch you pee?
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