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Old 05-11-2012, 10:28 AM    (permalink
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People frequently mention the Rams, but their dome is only 17 years old. Unless the city has an awful lease with the Rams, I don't see how they could get out of it for at least another 3-5 years.
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:29 AM    (permalink
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I tend to agree that at this point the Raiders and the Chargers are going to be the two most obvious targets, and probably the ones that would please the league the most, as neither would cause a huge disruption in the league.
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Old 05-11-2012, 11:53 AM    (permalink
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**** you Monomach!
He is noticeably absent from this thread. Shocking.

Zygi says the Vikes are going to try to put a retractable roof on the new stadium. Interesting.
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People frequently mention the Rams, but their dome is only 17 years old. Unless the city has an awful lease with the Rams, I don't see how they could get out of it for at least another 3-5 years.
The issue is not how old the dome is but if it is what considered to be a "first tier" NFL stadium. The language in the lease with the Rams and the CVC (management company for the Jones Dome) requires that the stadium be kept up to certain standards.

The Rams' lease requires the St. Louis stadium authority to provide a first-tier facility by 2015. The Edward Jones Dome is not close to first tier by NFL standards. It's debatable whether a re-design could meet the Rams' likely demands without the project becoming cost-prohibitive.

In the meantime, the Rams have recently rejected the stadium authority's offer (their list of possible improvements) as a matter of course. The stadium authority is expected to reject the Rams' counter proposal which includes a retractable roof among other goodies. Once that happens, an arbitrator will begin deciding what constitutes a reasonable upgrade. That process, scheduled to begin June 15 and conclude before 2013, would produce a compromise proposal for the city to accept or reject.

If the city accepts, the Rams would be bound to the proposal, keeping in place their lease through 2025. If the city rejects the arbitrator's proposal, the Rams would be free to consider their options in St. Louis or elsewhere starting in the 2015 season.

The Rams and the city of St. Louis are in uncharted waters. Nobody knows how the arbitration process will play out and what the consequences of all this will mean.

Finally, our new owner, Stan Kroenke, has been quite silent and is keeping his cards close to his vest. Many wonder if one of those cards includes the move to LA one.

Stay tuned.....
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Old 05-11-2012, 12:28 PM    (permalink
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He is noticeably absent from this thread. Shocking.

Zygi says the Vikes are going to try to put a retractable roof on the new stadium. Interesting.
Shocking that I didn't call off of work so I could constantly refresh the Vikings website every 5 minutes just to check whether anything happened when as far as I knew nothing was scheduled?

Now I'm kind of wishing you'd lost your team. I was pretty damned happy to be wrong until I came here and read this douchiness.
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Shocking that I didn't call off of work so I could constantly refresh the Vikings website every 5 minutes just to check whether anything happened when as far as I knew nothing was scheduled?

Now I'm kind of wishing you'd lost your team. I was pretty damned happy to be wrong until I came here and read this douchiness.

Lol u sound mad. I was just giving you a hard time for the most part.
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Zygi says the Vikes are going to try to put a retractable roof on the new stadium. Interesting.
How is this going to work? would the state even go for that after this?
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How is this going to work? would the state even go for that after this?
It was put in the bill that the Vikings could add a retractable roof, but the Vikings would have to pay for it entirely.
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Hello non existent LA Vikings.

Glad Vikings are staying in Minnesota.
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It was put in the bill that the Vikings could add a retractable roof, but the Vikings would have to pay for it entirely.
Yup, Wilf said they really want to put one on, we'll see though.
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So its 100% certain the Vikings will remain in Minnesota? I have a deep hatred for them but I absolutely don't want to see them leave. I like are hate we have for eachother.
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It needs to be approved by the Minneapolis City Council, but they've been saying they have the votes for a while.
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So its 100% certain the Vikings will remain in Minnesota? I have a deep hatred for them but I absolutely don't want to see them leave. I like are hate we have for eachother.
Me too. Sometimes I still have a hard time not thinking of the Bucs as a rival.
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Shocking that I didn't call off of work so I could constantly refresh the Vikings website every 5 minutes just to check whether anything happened when as far as I knew nothing was scheduled?

Now I'm kind of wishing you'd lost your team. I was pretty damned happy to be wrong until I came here and read this douchiness.
If by douchiness you mean fans being ecstatic that we didn't lose our team and calling out the douche bag rival fan who was guaranteeing the opposite result.

You have a weird definition of douchiness.
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So its 100% certain the Vikings will remain in Minnesota? I have a deep hatred for them but I absolutely don't want to see them leave. I like are hate we have for eachother.
Our*. But yes, it is close between my love for the Vikings and hate for the Packers.
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The issue is not how old the dome is but if it is what considered to be a "first tier" NFL stadium. The language in the lease with the Rams and the CVC (management company for the Jones Dome) requires that the stadium be kept up to certain standards.

The Rams' lease requires the St. Louis stadium authority to provide a first-tier facility by 2015. The Edward Jones Dome is not close to first tier by NFL standards. It's debatable whether a re-design could meet the Rams' likely demands without the project becoming cost-prohibitive.

In the meantime, the Rams have recently rejected the stadium authority's offer (their list of possible improvements) as a matter of course. The stadium authority is expected to reject the Rams' counter proposal which includes a retractable roof among other goodies. Once that happens, an arbitrator will begin deciding what constitutes a reasonable upgrade. That process, scheduled to begin June 15 and conclude before 2013, would produce a compromise proposal for the city to accept or reject.

If the city accepts, the Rams would be bound to the proposal, keeping in place their lease through 2025. If the city rejects the arbitrator's proposal, the Rams would be free to consider their options in St. Louis or elsewhere starting in the 2015 season.

The Rams and the city of St. Louis are in uncharted waters. Nobody knows how the arbitration process will play out and what the consequences of all this will mean.

Finally, our new owner, Stan Kroenke, has been quite silent and is keeping his cards close to his vest. Many wonder if one of those cards includes the move to LA one.

Stay tuned.....
It looks to me like the Rams are really hoping for a brand new stadium. Their counterproposal to the CVC came in at over $700 million. People will seriously question whether or not it is worth throwing that kind of money at a renovation project when you can build a brand new facility for $1 billion. I think this one gets ugly.
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