NBA Discussion Thread

[yo123]

Originally Posted by Complex

He missed the 3 at the end and disappeared in 4th for the 2nd game in a row. If that was Lebron, Skip,prock and crew would be all over him.

Yeah but that wouldn't be fair either.

[Complex]

One more thing Derek Fisher is the most glorified ****** player ever.

[soybean]

Originally Posted by Complex

One more thing Derek Fisher is the glorified ****** player ever.

I've been saying it for years but blind laker loyalists were so attached to him. Kobe said it best earlier this season when asked about flopping he said "the only player that flopped is no longer on our team."

[soybean]

Mario Chalmers beasted it and I'll say it again, James Harden is complete ****. he didn't even play well against us but he went to the free throw line everytime we sniffed his direction.

[Complex]

Durant needs to work on his D. Mario Chalmers was destroying him. Harden has played like ****. I wonder what stupid team will offer him a max contract. Perkins fat ass needs to be amnestied.

[soybean]

I would rather take OJ mayo's offense over harden's. I know harden has a better all around game but OJ mayo would come cheaper and wouldn't miss wide open shots.

props to my arch nemesis shane battier, and mario chalmers for steppin up though. It wasn't just the big three show. Also, Bosh on this team is not a max contract player. He's not terrible but he's not elite.

[Cudders]

Three things cost the Thunder a chance at the championship:

1.) James Harden has been useless at best. He’s killing the Thunder. He’s not contributing on offense and he gives up too much on LeBron on defense. There is not a single justification for keeping him in the game. Not one. Thabo Sefolosha should be getting more of his minutes in Game 5.

2.) Their defense evaporated. I can’t believe the amount of open shots that the Thunder have conceded. For a team that identifies itself as a grinding team, the Heat have not had to grind. The Thunder have given them beautiful looks at the basket. It’s been embarrassing.

3.) Mental mistakes. From the whole team. I’m talking, like, JaVale McGee-esque blunders here. Cannot play with ‘em. Cannot win with ‘em. Cannot coach with ‘em. Can’t do it.

But the Heat have capitalized on the Thunder’s woes and earned their three wins. As awful and pathetic as the officiating has been, and it has been, the Thunder haven’t performed well enough to win. It’s that simple.

LeBron will be fine though. Just pump ‘em full of…



For the record, that was a joke.

[JeffSamardzijaIRISH]

If LeBron is hurt, can the Heat win a game without him? I don't think they can.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Originally Posted by soybean

I would rather take OJ mayo's offense over harden's. I know harden has a better all around game but OJ mayo would come cheaper and wouldn't miss wide open shots.

props to my arch nemesis shane battier, and mario chalmers for steppin up though. It wasn't just the big three show. Also, Bosh on this team is not a max contract player. He's not terrible but he's not elite.

Lets not let his crap finals let us go overboard. Mayo and Harden offensively aren't even comparable.

[gpngc]

Thunder can still win this thing...

[Brent]

jump to 1:05

this is how I imagine some of you.

[soybean]

Originally Posted by SeanTaylorRIP

Lets not let his crap finals let us go overboard. Mayo and Harden offensively aren't even comparable.

you're right, I was over reacting. I do think OJ mayo could be better if given more minutes though and would be a cheaper/poor man's version of harden.

he's shooting 35 percent this series... and he shot 38 percent against us... I don't think he's there yet.

Originally Posted by gpngc

Thunder can still win this thing...

yep. it'll either end in 5 or end in 7.

If it goes back to OKC, i don't see Miami winning game 6.

[yodapoop]

One more to go! Don't **** this one up Heat please! U blow this one and finish second two years in a row, I woulda rather been kicked in the nuts until they both bursted into chunks than lose another ******* NBA Finals. Okay, thank you!

[wogitalia]

Originally Posted by soybean

I would rather take OJ mayo's offense over harden's. I know harden has a better all around game but OJ mayo would come cheaper and wouldn't miss wide open shots.

props to my arch nemesis shane battier, and mario chalmers for steppin up though. It wasn't just the big three show. Also, Bosh on this team is not a max contract player. He's not terrible but he's not elite.

You just described Bosh on any team. He is a very good player but he has never been elite at any point in his career or even particularly close. He basically doesn't do anything well enough to carry a team. Just a good solid player that can absolutely be the 3rd and possibly even 2nd option on a contender. Like a Horace Grant type.

[Cudders]

Originally Posted by gpngc

Thunder can still win this thing...

The Thunder haven’t been closed out, sure, but it’s such an uphill battle at this point. Their margin for error is nonexistent. The Thunder have just put themselves in a precarious position where they need to win three straight games against a team with outstanding perimeter defense and two of the best players in the world that can explode for monster games on any given night.

And that’s assuming the Thunder work out all of their kinks before Game 5. Harden’s game is so fragile right now, their defense has been rotten, and some of these mental mistakes are downright inexcusable.

[Complex]

Jorge Sedano ‏@SedanoShow
They put Durant on Chalmers b/c it was supposed to be "easier." Chalmers says, he took Durant guarding him as a sign of disrespect.

ROFL

[soybean]

Originally Posted by wogitalia

You just described Bosh on any team. He is a very good player but he has never been elite at any point in his career or even particularly close. He basically doesn't do anything well enough to carry a team. Just a good solid player that can absolutely be the 3rd and possibly even 2nd option on a contender. Like a Horace Grant type.

well... in all fairness to bosh, his last season in toronto he averaged 24 and 11. I think the only other power forward to do that, that season, was zach randolph.

[wogitalia]

That's hilarious and pretty much fair given how he has played defense in the finals.

It's funny that it has been the Thunder that are consistently choking in this series given how well they handled pressure prior to this series and how poorly the Heat had for the previous year. Durant has had back to back "stinkers", Westbrook just keeps making more and more moronic mistakes, Harden has forgotten how to play.

That Westbrook foul was on a Webber timeout level moronic, as in one of the single worst "choke" decisions anyone has made in the history of basketball. That **** can haunt you forever.

[soybean]

Originally Posted by Complex

Jorge Sedano ‏@SedanoShow
They put Durant on Chalmers b/c it was supposed to be "easier." Chalmers says, he took Durant guarding him as a sign of disrespect.

ROFL

Then he's an idiot because he's basically putting himself on the same level as Lebron offensively.

"Hmm, let's take him off the best player in the league and put him on someone a little less 'best player in the league like'"

[wogitalia]

Originally Posted by soybean

well... in all fairness to bosh, his last season in toronto he averaged 24 and 11. I think the only other power forward to do that, that season was zach randolph.

On a team that won what 40 games, in the East no less?

Really Bosh's stats with Toronto just support what I said, he is a very good player but he isn't elite by any means and never has or will be.

[diabsoule]

It'd be intersting to see the Thunder somehow add Iguadola in Harden's place. Doubtful it could ever happen even with a trade but he would add a lockdown defender and someone that could step up if they needed behind Westbrook/Durant.

[soybean]

Originally Posted by wogitalia

On a team that won what 40 games, in the East no less?

Really Bosh's stats with Toronto just support what I said, he is a very good player but he isn't elite by any means and never has or will be.

yeah, there's no way bosh can be the centerpiece on a championship team but as a number 2 or 3 he SHOULD be better. getting paid the same in Lebron is a huge travesty. They'd be in the same position they are now with paul milsap

Originally Posted by diabsoule

It'd be intersting to see the Thunder somehow add Iguadola in Harden's place. Doubtful it could ever happen even with a trade but he would add a lockdown defender and someone that could step up if they needed behind Westbrook/Durant.

that would be amazing for both sides.

[yodapoop]

Why do the Thunder need to replace Harden? Cuz he has struggled in his first finals ever? A lot of people do that.

It ain't over people. It ain't over til the fat lady sings, and I don't hear Ronny Turiaf singing.

[draftguru151]

3-1!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[soybean]

Originally Posted by yodapoop

Why do the Thunder need to replace Harden? Cuz he has struggled in his first finals ever? A lot of people do that.

cause he's going to want too much money at the end of his contract.