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Old 07-01-2012, 06:35 PM    (permalink
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College football will never have a “perfect” postseason in the mold of the NFL or college basketball.

I didn’t mind the BCS, and I don’t mind the current format, but I do hate the idea of an expansive postseason tournament. College football is the most unique sport out there because the regular season can reach such electric heights. A giant, 16-team bracket would marginalize the atmosphere of those colossal matchups with championship implications that people circle their calendars for. Sure, the postseason football itself would be exciting, but I’d rather not backload all of it.

The best format I’ve heard involves six teams. Top two teams get an open week, and both of those teams must be conference champions. That strikes the right balance for me. It isn’t selective enough to restrict teams with reasonable résumés and it isn’t open enough for teams that stumble in the regular season to be guaranteed a spot. Preserves a part of what makes college football so much fun and decides the champion on the field at the same time.
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Old 07-01-2012, 06:50 PM    (permalink
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I would prefer 6 teams as well. That being said, this system nearly ensures that an undefeated team in any conference will get a shot at the National Title, and that is how it should be.

I think your arguments for certain years are week. It would have been awesome in 2006.
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:03 PM    (permalink
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Great point, the Pac 12 also has a record of playing tougher non conference games than the SEC has but these facts aren't the whole story. People are forgetting that the BCS Championship game is to decide the NCAA champion for that year, and that requires a playoff IMO just like it does for every other NCAA sport. Technically, if you win your conference, you should be eligible for a Championship run if you are in a Div 1 conference, it should never be decided by subjective means. A 4 team playoff is a step in the right direction but an 8 team playoff makes far more sense to me. Second place teams like Alabama should never get consideration to be a NCAA Champion which really made the BCS look rather stupid last year.
I do believe the regular season should be cut back to 10 games so the athletes aren't subjected to unnecessary injury risk when a 8 team playoff is finally in place.
I do not understand those who argue that the playoffs will reck the worth of the regular season games, after all, you have to win those to be eligible for the playoffs which means they are still extremely important in every sense of the meaning.


Being a conference champion has never been part of the criteria for playing the BCS national championship game. It's irrelevant.

The BCS's goal has always been to get the two best teams playing each other for the national title, which is exactly what it did last year.

Not only that, but the 3rd best team in the country was also probably in the SEC West (Arkansas). Only one can be conference champion.

If anything makes the BCS look stupid, it's when it sends these conference "champions" from other conferences to the title game so everyone can see them get slaughtered by the SEC, and turn their television sets to re-runs of "I Love Lucy" at halftime because the game is over.

Everyone who complained about the rematch last year were the same one's pulling for a rematch of Ohio St. and Michigan in the title game a few years ago. Both of 'em went out and got their brains beat out in their bowl games.
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:10 PM    (permalink
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Throwing this stat out there to make you hate the scheduling system even more, but the SEC plays an average of 4 road games, per school, per year. Tell me how that's fair that a Pac-12 team playing 5.7 road games a year is compared on the same scale as an SEC team playing on the road a lot less.


The PAC-12 has traditionally played a round robin 9 game schedule, they could do that because the conference wasn't broken up into divisions, and they didn't have a conference championship game.

The SEC had a conference championship game, and every team played an 8 game schedule in conference. 9 of the 14 largest venues in the country are in the SEC, that's why they play more home games, and it's only one... usually a cupcake money game.

You have to figure Vandy, Kentucky, and the Mississippi schools have to play money games on the road or at least can't do better than home and home or 2/1 deals with the lesser lights. (Ex-MSU played the Extension Center at Legion Field last year).

PAC-12 typically don't play non-1A schools to fill out the remaining 3 games because they can't sell the tickets to these games. USC has not played a non-1A team since 1952. They don't play those teams because they can't sell tickets to those kind of games.

Most of the SEC heavyweights open up the season on the road in a neutral site against a high ranked opponent from another conference.
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I don't understand he complaining. It's clearly an improvement and it is going to be so much damn fun to watch every year.

Can you imagine being on campus and you're team gets into the National Championship playoffs? That would turn into an unreal experience.
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:49 PM    (permalink
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I don't understand he complaining. It's clearly an improvement and it is going to be so much damn fun to watch every year.

Can you imagine being on campus and you're team gets into the National Championship playoffs? That would turn into an unreal experience.

I actually agree with you here. Way too much complaining no matter what happens.

There really is no perfect solution that literally pleases every single individual.

It's strange how nobody ever sits around and picks apart the many flaws in the way the NFL decides it's champion. We could do that too.

The loudest critics of the way college football decides it's champion (no matter what system has been used) has always been a specific demographic or fanbase that isn't die-hard college football fans anyway. They're more NFL die-hards than college football fans.

As for the sportswriters and media that like to keep crap stirred up all the time, they just repeat it and write whatever makes it seem more controversial than it really is to drive up hits on their blogs or websites.
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Old 07-05-2012, 09:09 PM    (permalink
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The PAC-12 has traditionally played a round robin 9 game schedule, they could do that because the conference wasn't broken up into divisions, and they didn't have a conference championship game.

The SEC had a conference championship game, and every team played an 8 game schedule in conference. 9 of the 14 largest venues in the country are in the SEC, that's why they play more home games, and it's only one... usually a cupcake money game.

You have to figure Vandy, Kentucky, and the Mississippi schools have to play money games on the road or at least can't do better than home and home or 2/1 deals with the lesser lights. (Ex-MSU played the Extension Center at Legion Field last year).

PAC-12 typically don't play non-1A schools to fill out the remaining 3 games because they can't sell the tickets to these games. USC has not played a non-1A team since 1952. They don't play those teams because they can't sell tickets to those kind of games.

Most of the SEC heavyweights open up the season on the road in a neutral site against a high ranked opponent from another conference.


In 2011, Alabama opened with Kent St. at home last year, Arkansas opened with that huge power house Missouri St. followed by 2 other power houses, New Mexico and Troy, Auburn with Utah St., South Carolina with East Carolina, Florida with Florida Atlantic, Tennessee with Montana, so while 2 SEC teams opened with solid games, the rest of the SEC as usual opened with nobodies.

In 2010, the SEC power houses Alabama opened with San Jose St., Auburn with Arkansas St., Arkansas with Tennessee Tech, LSU with North Carolina, Florida with Miami, Ohio, Georgia with Louisiana Tech, South Carolina with Southern Miss., and Tennessee finally with UT Martin.

These matches hardly back up your argument. The SEC usually plays nobodies like most other conferences do and rarely schedule tough games.
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Old 07-06-2012, 10:36 AM    (permalink
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In 2011, Alabama opened with Kent St. at home last year, Arkansas opened with that huge power house Missouri St. followed by 2 other power houses, New Mexico and Troy, Auburn with Utah St., South Carolina with East Carolina, Florida with Florida Atlantic, Tennessee with Montana, so while 2 SEC teams opened with solid games, the rest of the SEC as usual opened with nobodies.

In 2010, the SEC power houses Alabama opened with San Jose St., Auburn with Arkansas St., Arkansas with Tennessee Tech, LSU with North Carolina, Florida with Miami, Ohio, Georgia with Louisiana Tech, South Carolina with Southern Miss., and Tennessee finally with UT Martin.

These matches hardly back up your argument. The SEC usually plays nobodies like most other conferences do and rarely schedule tough games.

The heavyweights are Bama and LSU. I realize that the entire conference appears to be heavyweights to other teams that have to play against 'em, but there's really only two that are heavyweights by SEC standards.


LSU opened last year with Oregon, 2010 against North Carolina, 2009 against Washington, 2005 against Arizona St. That's 4 of the past 7 years that LSU has opened up with a quality opponent. They're undefeated in those 4 games.


Bama opened up 2008 with a top ranked Clemson team, and 2009 with a top 10 Virginia Tech team. Bama is also undefeated in these games.

Bama is opening up this season with Michigan, 2013 with Virginia Tech, 2014 with West Virginia, and has a home-and-home with Michigan St. for 2016/2017.

The best quality of opponents SEC teams face is each other every week. You know damn well there's nothing left to prove by beating up everybody else's "champions" to begin the season. Quit pretending like it.
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2000: Oklahoma was the only undefeated team in America (12-0), and there were 5 other teams that were all one-loss teams, so who else gets in? Florida State (10-1, #2 BCS and #3 AP), Miami (11-1 #3 BCS and #2 AP), Washington (10-1 and #4 in both), Virginia Tech (10-1, #5 BCS and #6 AP), and Oregon State (10-1, #6 BCS and #5 AP) all have reasonable claims for 3 spots. So 2 of those teams get left out. (Note: Miami and Washington became split National Champions this year, what if one was left out?) Even though this was a unanimous 1-4 selection and I can’t argue against it, there would still be controversy.
Uh, what? Oklahoma was the undefeated, national champion in 2000. There was no split title that year between Miami and Washington.

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The Big 12 was a very weak conference for years with often only 2 solid teams competing for the conference championship, Texas and Oklahoma. Their undefeated seasons often just reflected their weak schedules, where the winner of their game automatically got them an undefeated season and into the BCS Championship game.
Please enlighten me how the Big 12 was a "very weak conference". Nebraska was a solid team that fell off a little in the middle of the last decade, but Kansas State was always up there during that time. Throw in a few good years from Colorado, Oklahoma State being a tweener, OU and Texas being good, A&M decent, its not like it was a joke of a conference. Yes, Kansas and Baylor sucked, Missouri was borderling sucky to meh.
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