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Old 07-10-2012, 11:57 PM    (permalink
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The Cowboys have a very good team and just added a big-time player at the position they were weakest at.

They were also a couple of crazy fluke plays away from making the playoffs over the Giants.

And now they get their RB back healthy to go with their potent passing attack.

I'd be surprised if they won less than nine games.
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but why is it labeled as being a homer if we share our opinion about the matter? is it really the fan who needs to grow thicker skin or the guy who gets offended if one defends his team or just has a different opinion?

im sorry, i was under the impression that this was discussion forum. if you wanna post up your opinions with NO REBUTTAL, go make a pinterest
I'll throw my hat in the ring again. I don't think it's the fact that you're defending the 49ers that makes people call you a homer (I don't think you're the target at all actually). Rather, I think people are getting annoyed with 49ers fans because EVERY SINGLE TIME the 49ers are brought up, the same thread engulfing argument pops up. Personally, I'd just like to see the lot of you choose your battles more wisely.
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Old 07-11-2012, 12:35 AM    (permalink
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I'm just curious reading this. This is overrated underrated, right? Who the **** is projecting the Bengals to be a repeat playoff team? Anyone? In what case are they, overrated? Everyone is projecting them to miss the playoffs this year and thinks that last year is basically a fluke. This would lead to them not being overrated.
I think Tim Hasselbeck did.
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Old 07-11-2012, 12:37 AM    (permalink
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A couple months ago, I tried to argue that the Bears were underrated and a threat to win it all. People bitched.

These threads just aren't going to foster happy, agreeable thoughts.



I like the Ravens and the Bears (for the most part), but I have no idea where this Cowboys love is coming from. I definitely agree with you on that.

I'm "meh..." on the Steelers.
I respect the Ravens (because of the fans on here) but I am worried about the age on the defense and I know the state of their OL. Birk, McKinnie and Bobbie Williams. Not good....
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I'll throw my hat in the ring again. I don't think it's the fact that you're defending the 49ers that makes people call you a homer (I don't think you're the target at all actually). Rather, I think people are getting annoyed with 49ers fans because EVERY SINGLE TIME the 49ers are brought up, the same thread engulfing argument pops up. Personally, I'd just like to see the lot of you choose your battles more wisely.
Well every situation is different. I believe in this thread someone made a stupid remark that people are hating on the 49ers, and Razor replied with a long winded post about the franchise, and afterwards a couple of other 49ers fans debated certain flaws in his logic.
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Old 07-11-2012, 12:52 AM    (permalink
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I respect the Ravens (because of the fans on here) but I am worried about the age on the defense and I know the state of their OL. Birk, McKinnie and Bobbie Williams. Not good....
I think they'll be okay for another season, but those are definite concerns. I'm also not a huge Flacco fan.
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I think they'll be okay for another season, but those are definite concerns. I'm also not a huge Flacco fan.
Factor in Reed and Ray being older...eventually time will catch up.
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:40 AM    (permalink
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Factor in Reed and Ray being older...eventually time will catch up.
Suggs won't be fully healthy this year in addition to that.
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Suggs won't be fully healthy this year in addition to that.
and they lost another DC. Will the well run dry?
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Dean Pees is an absolutely terrible DC so I fully expect the Ravens to take a step back defensively.
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Suggs won't be fully healthy this year in addition to that.
Somehow I forgot about that.
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Factor in Reed and Ray being older...eventually time will catch up.
Yes they are older, but we also have a bunch of young guys to help the transition go a little smoother(Ie Webb, Ngata, Jimmy Smith, Upshaw) when they finally leave, but we will be okay for this year.

The main things I am worried about for this year are as has been stated the change of DC and the loss of Suggs. One thing that I am potentially worried about is Ed Reed. If he decides to not play out his contract and be a prick or he gets injured we lost both of our depth guys at Safety to the offseason in Nakamura and Zbikowski. After the Suggs injury, losing Jarrett Johnson hurts us a bit, but one bright spot is we will actually get to see what we have at LB with Upshaw, Kruger and Kindle.

This is a contract year for Flacco we don't know how that will affect him. Cam is still the OC, our line is questionable and after Boldin hopefully Torrey Smith will continue to mature as well as our young TEs but beyond that more question marks.

I can definitely see why people would consider us overrated with all of the question marks but in the coming weeks before the season starts as the analysts analyze our roster and point out all of the flaws, we could be back in this thread arguing about how the Baltimore Ravens are underrated.

(I could go into a bit more detail but that's it for now.)
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Overrated:
New York Giants
Pittsburgh Steelers
Denver Broncos
Cincinnati Bengals
Buffalo Bills

Underrated:
Philadelphia Eagles
Chicago Bears
Seattle Seahawks
Tennessee Titans
New York Jets

I had nice, long explanations but then my computer died right as I was about to post it and I lost it all. :sadface:
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Overrated:
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Cincinnati Bengals
Buffalo Bills

Underrated:
Philadelphia Eagles
Chicago Bears
Seattle Seahawks
Tennessee Titans
New York Jets

I had nice, long explanations but then my computer died right as I was about to post it and I lost it all. :sadface:
You'll probably be shocked if we win another playoff game again right?
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Yes they are older, but we also have a bunch of young guys to help the transition go a little smoother(Ie Webb, Ngata, Jimmy Smith, Upshaw) when they finally leave, but we will be okay for this year.

The main things I am worried about for this year are as has been stated the change of DC and the loss of Suggs. One thing that I am potentially worried about is Ed Reed. If he decides to not play out his contract and be a prick or he gets injured we lost both of our depth guys at Safety to the offseason in Nakamura and Zbikowski. After the Suggs injury, losing Jarrett Johnson hurts us a bit, but one bright spot is we will actually get to see what we have at LB with Upshaw, Kruger and Kindle.

This is a contract year for Flacco we don't know how that will affect him. Cam is still the OC, our line is questionable and after Boldin hopefully Torrey Smith will continue to mature as well as our young TEs but beyond that more question marks.

I can definitely see why people would consider us overrated with all of the question marks but in the coming weeks before the season starts as the analysts analyze our roster and point out all of the flaws, we could be back in this thread arguing about how the Baltimore Ravens are underrated.

(I could go into a bit more detail but that's it for now.)
I think ultimately, the defense will be fine. Even with Suggs out and Reed and Ray getting up there, I've got alot more faith in our defense then our offense. Our offensive line is ancient and was already suspect before we replaced Ben Grubbs with Bobbie Williams (A monstrous step down for the entire line). I'm just not sure it can hold up for a whole season.
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You'll probably be shocked if we win another playoff game again right?
The giants are the luckiest team ever. In any sport.
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I agree with you there. If it was not for luck this team would only have one superbowl victory. The missed field goal from the Bills superbowl that inspired Ace Ventura. That lucky ******* catch from superbowl 42 and then having the cowboys and eagles to shoot themselves in the foot to help them out and then the 49ers knocking off the saints (the saints would of kicked their asses like they did on that monday night game) and then the two lost fumbles in the 9er game and another lucky catch in SB 46. The giants just face dumb teams who make mistakes and capitalize on them like the 49er game.
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Denver Broncos
Cincinnati Bengals
Buffalo Bills

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Chicago Bears
Seattle Seahawks
Tennessee Titans
New York Jets

I had nice, long explanations but then my computer died right as I was about to post it and I lost it all. :sadface:
NFL Dream Team and the New York Tebows underrated? C'mon Son
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I agree with you there. If it was not for luck this team would only have one superbowl victory. The missed field goal from the Bills superbowl that inspired Ace Ventura. That lucky ******* catch from superbowl 42 and then having the cowboys and eagles to shoot themselves in the foot to help them out and then the 49ers knocking off the saints (the saints would of kicked their asses like they did on that monday night game) and then the two lost fumbles in the 9er game and another lucky catch in SB 46. The giants just face dumb teams who make mistakes and capitalize on them like the 49er game.
I'm really not sure if this is a serious post or not.
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I'm really not sure if this is a serious post or not.
I agree with him that the Giants got lucky. but I think every team who wins the Superbowl got lucky :P
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Overrated:

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With everything we're going through the Saints won't be overrated or underrated.
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Rather, I think people are getting annoyed with 49ers fans because EVERY SINGLE TIME the 49ers are brought up, the same thread engulfing argument pops up.
This is my opinion of why "it" happens. People make overly-generalized and false statements regarding the team I love. It's difficult to ignore.



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Yes they are older, but we also have a bunch of young guys to help the transition go a little smoother(Ie Webb, Ngata, Jimmy Smith, Upshaw) when they finally leave, but we will be okay for this year.

The main things I am worried about for this year are as has been stated the change of DC and the loss of Suggs. One thing that I am potentially worried about is Ed Reed. If he decides to not play out his contract and be a prick or he gets injured we lost both of our depth guys at Safety to the offseason in Nakamura and Zbikowski. After the Suggs injury, losing Jarrett Johnson hurts us a bit, but one bright spot is we will actually get to see what we have at LB with Upshaw, Kruger and Kindle.

This is a contract year for Flacco we don't know how that will affect him. Cam is still the OC, our line is questionable and after Boldin hopefully Torrey Smith will continue to mature as well as our young TEs but beyond that more question marks.

I can definitely see why people would consider us overrated with all of the question marks but in the coming weeks before the season starts as the analysts analyze our roster and point out all of the flaws, we could be back in this thread arguing about how the Baltimore Ravens are underrated.

(I could go into a bit more detail but that's it for now.)

I don't think the defense is the full overrated though. I think the OL is horrid. Oher hasn't lived up to his billing and McKinnie and Birk are so old. Hopefully the young kids are ready to play because they are going to be needed. Has there been talk of Oher moving inside? I think that's where I like him best.
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Oh boy now you are gonna come back ranting about injuries......
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THAT WAS A WEIRD TIME IN ALL OF OUR LIVES. WE DIDNT KNOW WHAT TO DO.

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