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Xiomera · 07-24-2012, 09:13 PM

I read that Weber just requested the Preds add a no-trade clause to his 14-year offer.

Hilarity.

Vikes99ej · 07-25-2012, 12:15 AM

Currently watching some game between the Habs and Oilers from 2003. It's amazing how many of these names are still playing.

NotRickJames · 07-25-2012, 12:25 AM

Erixon is an underrated talent imo, but yeah Howson got bent over big time in that deal.

They do have some nice young potential on d though.

Verloren · 07-25-2012, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Xiomera

I read that Weber just requested the Preds add a no-trade clause to his 14-year offer.

Hilarity.

He should've asked for that when signing the offer sheet...

Cudders · 07-25-2012, 08:11 AM

Yeah, I wouldn’t call Nash overrated per se. It’s not like he gets heaps of praise piled upon him from media outlets at each chance, at least not that I’ve seen. His sizeable cap hit might suggest he’s top five or so, sure, but Columbus had to dole out a large contract to get him to commit long-term. Even still, he’s been a productive goal-scorer and he’s never had an adequate supporting cast. In Vancouver, he was magic alongside Toews and Richards. With Nash, a team is getting a winger with a supreme blend of size, strength, speed, and skill to add to their top six. He needs to correct certain things, and I think Tortorella can get him there, but he’s more than capable of bolstering the Blueshirts’ offense. He netted 40 goals in Columbus twice and hasn’t fallen below 30 since ’06-’07 and he’s done it with a good shot percentage, too.

As for Weber, I’m a little surprised that Nashville matched. I figured the longer it dragged on, the less chance the Predators ponied up. We’ll see how Poile goes about reloading now and how long Weber is content there. If Weber does want to force himself out of Nashville at some point though, it would ignite an absolute bidding war. A top defenseman entering the prime of his career locked up on a long-term deal where he will earn almost a quarter of his total contract dollars in the first season? Oh, and he doesn’t have a no-movement clause to block wherever he goes? Can’t wait to see what kind of package that would take.

SuperMcGee · 07-25-2012, 08:26 AM

I don't mean to hate on Nash. I may say he is somewhat overrated, but that doesn't mean his floor is any lower than somebody like Thomas Vanek, and I won't deny that Nash will give you a good amount more grit than somebody like that.

Wootylicous · 07-25-2012, 08:35 AM

I was about to compare him to Vanek

Cudders · 07-25-2012, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperMcgee

I don't mean to hate on Nash. I may say he is somewhat overrated, but that doesn't mean his floor is any lower than somebody like Thomas Vanek, and I won't deny that Nash will give you a good amount more grit than somebody like that.

In that case, we’re in agreement on all points then. I think Nash and Vanek are on that same tier of forwards who aren’t superstars, but are still ultra-valuable contributors and natural scoring wingers for the team that ices them. I just wasn’t sure of either’s general media perception, to be honest.

Ignoring the return, I’m glad Nash wound up in New York. I think it’s such a good fit for him. Tortorella has the defensive pedigree to maximize Nash in that department and the Rangers need someone to lean on for goals with Gaborik slated to miss the start of the season, barring an extended lockout. It will be curious to see where he settles in because New York can be so flexible with their line combinations. A Nash-Richards-Gaborik line would be explosive and fun to watch, but I also am intrigued with Stepan centering a line with Nash and Callahan on his wings and then perhaps testing Kreider on the left of Richards and Gaborik. Regardless of where he ends up, I think he can find comfort and success. We’ll see who jells with whom when the puck drops.

In other news, Tim Erixon has been posting disappointed status updates on Facebook. Even threw up the “Crawling In The Dark” video from Hoobastank. And so it begins.

Wootylicous · 07-25-2012, 11:03 AM

Tim Erixon lol. Come on bro you ******* have the chance to play in the NHL grow the **** up and go play the sport you love for **** sake.

Wootylicous · 07-25-2012, 11:06 AM

and who the **** listens to hoobastank ?!

SuperMcGee · 07-25-2012, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cudders

Even threw up the “Crawling In The Dark” video from Hoobastank. And so it begins.

Wow, I didn't know it was that bad.

The Rangers have such an awesome team. And coach. I hate it.

Wootylicous · 07-25-2012, 11:11 AM

I love their potential 2nd line. Kreider-Stepan-Callahan. Yes please

SuperMcGee · 07-25-2012, 11:17 AM

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I love their potential 2nd line. Kreider-Stepan-Callahan. Yes please

So sexy.

And we haven't even gotten into Hagelin and Zuccarello.

Wootylicous · 07-25-2012, 11:17 AM

The all-scandinavian line!

SuperMcGee · 07-25-2012, 12:38 PM

In the midst of all the Weber business, Nashville also re-signed Sergei for two years and Colin Wilson for 3, after which he is still restricted. I will never not predict a breakout year for Wilson. Those two will need to be offensive force for the Preds.

Radulov and AK47 are gone, whatever. They may have invested way too much in Gaustad, but he is the one that fits their system. They've been building that defensive pipeline forever. Losing Suter is going to hurt, but Nashville can recover with Weber and Rinne still there and the possibilities of a young guy stepping up.

Fisher, Erat, Legwand, Wilson, Kostitsyn, and Hornqvist will be as good of a top-6 as they're used to. Gaustad, Spaling, various role players, and potential contributors like Smith and Bourque will do their part.

Thing is, a good team can easily finish 4th in that division and other Western teams are getting better - Minnesota, Colorado, Dallas, and Edmonton can all be better than they were last year. Detroit could fear the same thing.

Brodeur · 07-25-2012, 01:03 PM

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and who the **** listens to hoobastank ?!

I FOUND A REASON FOR MEEEEEEEEeeeeEEEEEEEEEEe TO CHANGE WHO I USED TO BEEEEEEEEEE

Wootylicous · 07-25-2012, 01:08 PM

I will ******* end you.

mqtirishfan · 07-25-2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodeur

I FOUND A REASON FOR MEEEEEEEEeeeeEEEEEEEEEEe TO CHANGE WHO I USED TO BEEEEEEEEEE

You're the worst kind of person.

Hines · 07-26-2012, 02:23 PM

Semin to Carolina for 1 year, 7 million.

Job Reborn · 07-26-2012, 02:58 PM

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Semin to Carolina for 1 year, 7 million.

Holy overpayment Batman!

SuperMcGee · 07-26-2012, 11:56 PM

Well, that's intriguing, but not really unexpected. Winnipeg and Carolina both look better on paper after adding some offense. Tampa and Washington obviously have a bunch of talent up front. Could be one wild division.

Xiomera · 07-27-2012, 12:10 AM

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Holy overpayment Batman!

I don't think it's an overpayment. Teams still have more cap space collectively than there are worthy players to spend on. Semin was the last impact free agent aside from Doan, and if you can get any impact player signed for a 1-year, low risk contract, you do it.

I'm pretty pissed that Ken Holland is still sitting on his hands acting like that cap space is going to roll over to next offseason. It's the same damn thing he did last year.