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08-04-2012, 01:33 AM
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08-05-2012, 01:44 PM
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Devin Thomas retired. Lost his passion for the game. I guess once he won that SB, he lost his desire to keep playing. Let's be honest, I don't think he ever was fully committed to the game.
I was, and still am a little worried that we will miss his contributions on Special Teams. He was a great special teamer for us and his special teams coverage is gonna be hard to replace.
But I'll always wonder how good he could have been had he put his all into football. The guy looked like a million bucks, he kept you wondering how he couldn't succeed at WR.
Either way, I'm grateful for having him on our SB team. He was a contributor.
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08-05-2012, 04:45 PM
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what about selvish capers i liked him as a developmental prospect, what's he lookin like at tc
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08-05-2012, 06:23 PM
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So is it possible for us to get Devin Thomas back?
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08-05-2012, 06:36 PM
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Devin Thomas retired. Lost his passion for the game. I guess once he won that SB, he lost his desire to keep playing. Let's be honest, I don't think he ever was fully committed to the game.
I was, and still am a little worried that we will miss his contributions on Special Teams. He was a great special teamer for us and his special teams coverage is gonna be hard to replace.
But I'll always wonder how good he could have been had he put his all into football. The guy looked like a million bucks, he kept you wondering how he couldn't succeed at WR.
Either way, I'm grateful for having him on our SB team. He was a contributor.
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Maybe he did work hard and was motivated until we didn't extend him. Now he has to re prove himself and learn a new system. I am sure that hurts especially if you think you earned a right to be extended after helping out on special teams and showing competence in our system.
Now on the Bears, everything is new! I can see why, he'd say screw that, not bust my butt for getting cut next year, and starting all over again. Like you said, if he wasn't 100% to begin with, I am sure leaving us and starting over may have been a tipping point.
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08-06-2012, 12:46 PM
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I'm excited to watch David Douglas on Friday. It sounds like he's really putting in a good showing.
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08-06-2012, 02:53 PM
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No ACL tear for Thomas. He will rehab and take it from there. No timetable on return right now.
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Holy ****, that is great news. This is awesome. Hopefully he has a quick and safe recovery and can play again this year. To me, this is just a setback and I am expecting him to be the same player he was at the beginning of THIS YEAR'S training camp.
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I'm excited to watch David Douglas on Friday. It sounds like he's really putting in a good showing.
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I am more excited for Brandon Collins, the UDFA out of Southeast Louisiana. He transfered there from Texas and has been looking good in camp. He wears #6, just in case anyone else here wants to keep an eye on him.
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I'm cautious on Thomas. Everyone confirmed that there is a partial tear of his ACL, but now it sounds like he can play through it with rehab?
If that's the case, how is he gonna look out there? Is he gonna trust his knee? Should he? What player are we getting? And for how long?
I'm iffy on this one.
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08-06-2012, 03:35 PM
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I'm cautious on Thomas. Everyone confirmed that there is a partial tear of his ACL, but now it sounds like he can play through it with rehab?
If that's the case, how is he gonna look out there? Is he gonna trust his knee? Should he? What player are we getting? And for how long?
I'm iffy on this one.
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This is the best case scenario right now but yes there are still huge question marks. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst type thing.
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This is the best case scenario right now but yes there are still huge question marks. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst type thing.
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I rather have closure honestly. Either he can't go or he can go. I don't want him taking reps away from other guys and then just get hurt and now we have to throw someone in there who could have had more practice if we just moved on from the start.
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08-06-2012, 03:42 PM
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I am more excited for Brandon Collins, the UDFA out of Southeast Louisiana. He transfered there from Texas and has been looking good in camp. He wears #6, just in case anyone else here wants to keep an eye on him.
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Well I'm just going to lump all the young WR's including DePalma, Randle, and Barden also.
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I rather have closure honestly. Either he can't go or he can go. I don't want him taking reps away from other guys and then just get hurt and now we have to throw someone in there who could have had more practice if we just moved on from the start.
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That's understandable. I'm assuming the rehab will be at least 2 more week so the younger guys should be getting all their reps. They should also have probably 3 games this preseason before Thomas gets back. If they can rehab the knee then we need him on the field. We're better wih him than without.
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That's understandable. I'm assuming the rehab will be at least 2 more week so the younger guys should be getting all their reps. They should also have probably 3 games this preseason before Thomas gets back. If they can rehab the knee then we need him on the field. We're better wih him than without.
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We're better with him if he's 100%. I think even if he can play, he's probably not 100%. Then the question is, well how much does he have in the tank, and do we even want that version of TT out there?
I guess we'll see what happens.
I hope he can play and play healthy, but I don't know how this turns out.
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I'm excited to watch David Douglas on Friday. It sounds like he's really putting in a good showing.
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I went onto giants.com, and they have videos called "top five plays of training camp" every other day or so. And Douglas had one or two of the top five plays in every video I watched!! He had a one-handed catch that was just nasty, and several other impressive grabs! If he can come even close to replicate that in games, we have ourselves a keeper!
Here's the link to the video with the one-handed grab: http://www.giants.com/media-vault/vi...f-cf409f679fcb
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08-06-2012, 08:25 PM
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Thomas hopes to be back within a month. Maybe we should just cut our losses on this one?
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He sounds desperate. Its almost like he wants to just play until he fully tears it bc he probably knows his career is over anyway.
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He sounds desperate. Its almost like he wants to just play until he fully tears it bc he probably knows his career is over anyway.
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Possible. Do you really think the doctors would let him do that though? Could be a huge malpractice lawsuit.
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He sounds desperate. Its almost like he wants to just play until he fully tears it bc he probably knows his career is over anyway.
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that was my first thought, we'll see. Is it a partial tear or a sprain?
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He sounds desperate. Its almost like he wants to just play until he fully tears it bc he probably knows his career is over anyway.
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Could it have something to do with an injury insurance he wants to kick in? Or is he just trying to squeeze money out of the Giants before he retires? Man, I almost feel dirty speculating like this about one of my favorite players intentions, but this sounds sort of fishy.
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08-07-2012, 07:26 AM
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It's not Thomas guys. The doctors have cleared him to rehab and told him he doesn't need surgery. Thomas has no intentions for a money grab.
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Does Douglas play special teams, or can he? If he can, and him and these other guys continue to shine, Barden is as good as gone.
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Does Douglas play special teams, or can he? If he can, and him and these other guys continue to shine, Barden is as good as gone.
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He probably can. The reason Barden doesn't play ST is because of his body type. He's too tall to play on a coverage unit so I'm not really sure where else they could use him except to block field goals or punts.
Coughlin did say Barden will absolutely make a mark in this league but I'm starting to think it's going to be for another team that can afford him the opportunity to play more.
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I know why he can't play special teams but it doesn't change the fact that he still can't do it. If Douglas is going to be as good as some already think, then Barden is our 7th or 8th WR? And one who doesn't help anywhere else. I think it is going to take a lot of injuries for him to make the team, and knock on wood that doesn't happen.
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