New York Giants Discussion

[Giantsfan1080]

Originally Posted by Rosebud

That's why I figured Tracy would be bwOSI, you know for Black wOSI...

The w stands for White though.

[OSUGiants17]

Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080

Nicks and Cruz yes. Wilson no. I don't think he's going to play as much as some think.

Cruz goes too early in most leagues and I like Nicks a lot more.

[Giantsfan1080]

Originally Posted by OSUGiants17

Cruz goes too early in most leagues and I like Nicks a lot more.

Well Nicks should go before Cruz but yeah I like Nicks more also. They are both going to be excellent fantasy wise though. You might as well wait a little and grab Eli.

[BaLLiN]

Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080

The w stands for White though.

yes but osi is black, so if we're saying black osi its saying tracy=osi which isn't true. If we say black white osi then we're saying tolly=tracy which is probably a little more accurate right now

[Rosebud]

Originally Posted by BaLLiN

yes but osi is black, so if we're saying black osi its saying tracy=osi which isn't true. If we say black white osi then we're saying tolly=tracy which is probably a little more accurate right now

This guy gets it.

[Giantsfan1080]

Yeah too complicated for me in the nickname department.

[Rosebud]

What's so complicated about Black wOsi? it's just two words, neither of them longer than two syllables.

[Jughead10]

http://deadspin.com/Why-Your-Team-Sucks-2012/

I've been reading all of these and they are hysterical. It's so funny to see Steeler fans with a brain talk bad about Ben.

[bigbluedefense]

Seriously guys?

I agree with GF btw, let's just cut Beatty. Forget that cream puff. Move Diehl back to LT, and bring McKenzie back for one more year.

Brewer isn't ready yet, and Locklear...meh.

[Giantsfan1080]

Originally Posted by Rosebud

What's so complicated about Black wOsi? it's just two words, neither of them longer than two syllables.

Because it's dumb. I didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings by saying so though. Tracy is going to beast it anyway so he'll need his own original nickname.

[Giantsfan1080]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

Seriously guys?

I agree with GF btw, let's just cut Beatty. Forget that cream puff. Move Diehl back to LT, and bring McKenzie back for one more year.

Brewer isn't ready yet, and Locklear...meh.

Beatty is a FA at the end of the year also so his days are numbered here. I loved what KMac did for us but no we can't bring him back. He was horrible last year and has lost it. Locklear at RT and Diehl at LT. The interior line play is going to have to really step it up this year. I'm looking at you Boothe, Baas, and Snee.

[bigbluedefense]

I'm starting to think Petrus isn't going to be the guy I had hoped he'd be. He regressed this year and his pass pro is just awful.

It's a shame, I really had high hopes for him. But now I'm starting to temper those hopes.

[Giantsfan1080]

How has he regressed? Because of 1 game? Also sounds like McKenzie might be coming back.

[bigbluedefense]

Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080

How has he regressed? Because of 1 game? Also sounds like McKenzie might be coming back.

He's been playing like crap in Training Camp apparently.

Yeaaaaaah Big Mac is back!

[Giantsfan1080]

Sorry Mckenzie thing isn't true. BBI got fooled.

[NY+Giants=NYG]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

I'm starting to think Petrus isn't going to be the guy I had hoped he'd be. He regressed this year and his pass pro is just awful.

It's a shame, I really had high hopes for him. But now I'm starting to temper those hopes.

We joke about that developmental OL player, but that way of drafting is coming back and biting us. Have we hit on anyone like that?

Whimper.. GONE
Koets.. GONE
Beatty.. hurt and back issues
Brewer back and very raw
Petrus.. Still waiting for something


Can someone please step up?

[Damix]

Koets looked like he was going to be at least average before he blew out his knee.

[Giantsfan1080]

Yeah out minor league OL system has produced ****. Someone needs to do something.

[bigbluedefense]

I have faith in Petrus, Brewer, and Mosely.

[OSUGiants17]

Why can't we just draft a blue chip OT already. Give me a big 1st round OT

[BigBlueNorwegian]

We value DB, CB and WR in first rounds. Almost exclusively. I don't mind actually. As long as we can find mediocre blockers who gives Eli just enough time to pass, we'll be fine. OT's seems like a crapshoot in the late first round more often than the other positions as well. Solder hasn't produced yet, Carimi hasn't produced, and Oher is a Right tackle. Those guys were picked around our picks in the last few years of the draft.

I think you need to trade up into the first ten picks to find a blue chip left tackle nowadays. And Reese isn't willing to do that. Sure, it would be nice to have a great tackle duo as well as the great DE's DB's and WR's we have, but you can't always have your cake and eat it too. You have to focus on certain areas. And I think Reese is making the right choices.

[NY+Giants=NYG]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

I have faith in Petrus, Brewer, and Mosely.

Oh yeah, another development pick Mosely! I forgot about him. Well following the trend, I doubt he amounts to anything. Or better worded, I have zero expectations for him.

But that's the area we are missing! Has any developmental pick panned out and turned into a solid player? I know come draft we joke about it, but this is why we have issues. NO ONE has panned out or we haven't hit on anyone.

Eli is in his prime and we have junk on the OL. I wish we could go OL next draft.

[OSUGiants17]

Originally Posted by BigBlueNorwegian

We value DB, CB and WR in first rounds. Almost exclusively. I don't mind actually. As long as we can find mediocre blockers who gives Eli just enough time to pass, we'll be fine. OT's seems like a crapshoot in the late first round more often than the other positions as well. Solder hasn't produced yet, Carimi hasn't produced, and Oher is a Right tackle. Those guys were picked around our picks in the last few years of the draft.

I think you need to trade up into the first ten picks to find a blue chip left tackle nowadays. And Reese isn't willing to do that. Sure, it would be nice to have a great tackle duo as well as the great DE's DB's and WR's we have, but you can't always have your cake and eat it too. You have to focus on certain areas. And I think Reese is making the right choices.

I think you mean DE, CB and WR. But yea thats a great point. We can't get great OTs when we pick so late.

[LTgiants]

Not scheduled to play tonight for Giants: CB Terrell Thomas, CB Brandon Bing, CB Michael Coe, WR Hakeem Nicks, LB Jacquian Williams, LB Michael Boley, LT Will Beatty, DT Shaun Rogers, DT Marvin Austin. DT Marcus Thomas, signed on Thursday, is not eligible to play.

[Giantsfan1080]

I wonder why we haven't put Rogers on IR yet. Also, wish Williams and Boley will be back this week. Bing injury seems new.