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View Poll Results: Who's gonna be the best of these QB's when all is said and done?
Josh Freeman, Bucs 59 15.05%
Matthew Stafford, Lions 126 32.14%
Sam Bradford, Rams 76 19.39%
Mark Sanchez, Jets 19 4.85%
Joe Flacco, Ravens 33 8.42%
Matt Ryan, Falcons 79 20.15%
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Old 09-12-2012, 05:14 PM    (permalink
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Megatron was targeted 7 times and had 6 receptions. The running game was fine last week. Still had a 66 completion percentage. I didn't watch the Chiefs game but they didn't have Flowers and threw out a very weak secondary.
this week will be a good test for Stafford. Hopefully he can come through.
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Megatron was targeted 7 times and had 6 receptions. The running game was fine last week. Still had a 66 completion percentage. I didn't watch the Chiefs game but they didn't have Flowers and threw out a very weak secondary.
He also put it up 48 times with 4 picks.

I also wasn't just singling out the Rams game, but talking in general.
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He also put it up 48 times with 4 picks.

I also wasn't just singling out the Rams game, but talking in general.
3 INTs.

I actually think he needs to force it to Megatron more. He doesn't do it enough.
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That's what puzzles me with stafford. If you were take away the best wr like MegaTron , would he even be at the top of this list?
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Probably would. Stafford is legit.
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Let's not play the "if we took away this critical piece of the offense that the team is paying over $100M, would he still be good?" game.
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Maybe he would and maybe he wouldn't. Would Ryan be so good with White and Quintorris? Would Flacco be as good without all of the weapons the Ravens have?

In fact, you know what is crazy? How good these QBs have been is directly tied to how good the team around them is.
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That's what puzzles me with stafford. If you were take away the best wr like MegaTron , would he even be at the top of this list?
I hate this "Take away his best receiver" crap. If you took Jerry Rice away from Joe Montana and Steve Young, how much do you think their numbers drop?

But I'll indulge you for a minute. Let's say we try and negate the Calvin Johnson effect. Not taking into account the insane amount of influence Calvin's presence has on the pasing game, most #1 receivers average (Very, very roughly) 1000 yards and 8 TDs. So if we assume last season that Stafford had any other #1 receiver, his stat line still looks something like 4400 yards and 32TD, which is ridiculous and still better then any season anyone else on this list has put up.
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Maybe he would and maybe he wouldn't. Would Ryan be so good with White and Quintorris? Would Flacco be as good without all of the weapons the Ravens have?

In fact, you know what is crazy? How good these QBs have been is directly tied to how good the team around them is.
This. That's why I finally want to see how Freeman progresses and performs with more around him and wr continuing to progress and develop.
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Am I crazy for thinking Cam Newton is better than Stafford?
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I wouldnt say youre crazy but theyre two completely different QBs.
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I would say you are crazy.
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Yeah, you're crazy.
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Yeesh LeBeau schooled us. I know we lost Keller but still....not a great game by Sanchez....at least not compared to last week.

I do credit PIT winning Time of Poss. to killing our offensive groove but regardless, the Steelers wounded D really took us out and Sanchez just didn't do much at all. He had about 3-4 drops granted but not the game I thought he might have had.

Miami did surrender almost 400 yards in the air to Palmer so there's something to look forward to.
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Right now i'd say you're crazy, but if we're thinking about 2-3 years down the line and not so much right now, i can't say i blame you. Newton is just a special kind of player. Stafford is a really ******* good qb.
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Yeesh LeBeau schooled us. I know we lost Keller but still....not a great game by Sanchez....at least not compared to last week.

I do credit PIT winning Time of Poss. to killing our offensive groove but regardless, the Steelers wounded D really took us out and Sanchez just didn't do much at all. He had about 3-4 drops granted but not the game I thought he might have had.

Miami did surrender almost 400 yards in the air to Palmer so there's something to look forward to.
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One thing I'll say this and I hope everyone can agree:

-Stafford
-Flacco
-Ryan
-Freeman
-RGIII
-Luck
-Newton
- Possibly Bradford? (He's making some solid progress so far in year 3)
This league has some VERY GOOD young QBs. I like it. More competition in this league and very few bottom feed teams and qbs.

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Aside from the interception, Bradford was lights out today.
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One thing I'll say this and I hope everyone can agree:

-Stafford
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-RGIII
-Luck

This league has some VERY GOOD young QBs. I like it. More competition in this league and very few bottom feed teams and qbs.
Add Newton, Sanchez and (Hopefully) Locker and this league is having some nice faces moving forward. Bradford even had a sweet game today amazingly with Brian Schottenheimer and all.
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Add Newton, Sanchez and (Hopefully) Locker and this league is having some nice faces moving forward. Bradford even had a sweet game today amazingly with Brian Schottenheimer and all.

Sorry. I forgot Newton. Sanchez I have a hard time believing. I think many Jets fans just got boners because he had a nice start against Buffalo (not saying much). Haven't seen squat from Locker, so Idk how he fits, rather than he's a young QB?
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Sorry. I forgot Newton. Sanchez I have a hard time believing. I think many Jets fans just got boners because he had a nice start against Buffalo (not saying much). Haven't seen squat from Locker, so Idk how he fits, rather than he's a young QB?
Sanchez really is no different than Freeman in the regular season and has to play through much tougher climates than Freeman does...and add the postseason success and Sanchez has to at the very least be right there with Freeman on any list(I like Sanchez more than Freeman)
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Am I crazy for thinking Cam Newton is better than Stafford?
Not in the slightest, he is.
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