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Old 09-19-2012, 09:49 AM    (permalink
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How many undefeated teams at the end of the week? Obviously two are going down because the Eagles play the Cardinals and the Falcons play the Chargers. I also think the Broncos beat the Texans leaving only the 49ers, Cardinals and Chargers undefeated.
Three teams might not be unreasonable but I don't think the Cardinals and Chargers will be two of them.
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:52 AM    (permalink
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I woumd laugh so hard if Big Ben starts scrambling away from pressure, gets ready to take a shot and throw the ball....and there's no passrush haha he'd be like..o.O wtf? I just did all that and there's no pressure??

*sigh* oakland
I'm really nervous about the speed and playmakers that Oakland has. If Palmer has a good game (lol) the Steelers could lose. The Raiders have beat the Steelers quite a bit the last few years, so nothing surprises me anymore.

I could see DMC getting back on track this week.
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I'm expecting about 300 combined rushing yards and 4 combined interceptions from the Bills and Browns this week.
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man i am really scared of Cam this week
This is a tough game that I was worried about before the season even started. Short week on the road vs a very good offense. This is not going to be easy.
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This is a tough game that I was worried about before the season even started. Short week on the road vs a very good offense. This is not going to be easy.
The Panthers defense is still nothing to write home about, so as long as Eli decides to play the first 3 quarters like he does the 4th and Cruz decides to catch the ball, you should still be in good shape there.
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The Panthers defense is still nothing to write home about, so as long as Eli decides to play the first 3 quarters like he does the 4th and Cruz decides to catch the ball, you should still be in good shape there.
They have good linebackers. Luke is a beast.

Our OL is doo doo too. That will help them.
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How many undefeated teams at the end of the week? Obviously two are going down because the Eagles play the Cardinals and the Falcons play the Chargers. I also think the Broncos beat the Texans leaving only the 49ers, Cardinals and Chargers undefeated.
No way do I see the Broncos beating the Texans. The Bulls are the like the Niners of the AFC. Physically stout team on both sides with a supremely balanced offense and just a suffocating defense. And they have a early DPOY canidate in Watt. That guy is unreal. He has more PD's than most DBs at this point. Their defense is scary good and their offense is potent. Denver is good, but not on the Texans level. I think their front is going to eat Peyton alive.

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No way do I see the Broncos beating the Texans. The Bulls are the like the Niners of the AFC. Physically stout team on both sides with a supremely balanced offense and just a suffocating defense. And they have a early DPOY canidate in Watt. That guy is unreal. He has more PD's than most DBs at this point. Their defense is scary good and their offense is potent. Denver is good, but not on the Texans level.
Another reason is that if the Falcons defense can confound Manning and shut him down, the Texans should definitely be able to.
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Another reason is that if the Falcons defense can confound Manning and shut him down, the Texans should definitely be able to.
You're ignoring that Manning is going to be getting more settled in every week, so just because he didn't tear apart the falcons doesn't mean he's not going to do well against the Texans.
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You're ignoring that Manning is going to be getting more settled in every week, so just because he didn't tear apart the falcons doesn't mean he's not going to do well against the Texans.
Well, I think the Texans defense is significantly better than the Falcons defense, so it would take a lot of "settling" for Manning to overcome that in 6 days days time.
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Absolutely. Nobody talks about their front seven, but they are scary good. Cush is a monster in the middle. Barwin and Reed are underrated and Antonio Smith is vastly underrated.
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Absolutely. Nobody talks about their front seven, but they are scary good. Cush is a monster in the middle. Barwin and Reed are underrated and Antonio Smith is vastly underrated.
Throw in Watt and they basically are the AFC's version of the 49ers.
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You're ignoring that Manning is going to be getting more settled in every week, so just because he didn't tear apart the falcons doesn't mean he's not going to do well against the Texans.
Well he looked pretty settled versus the Steelers....but that didn't last very long. If he thought Nolan was a problem, Wade Phillips and his guys are a better version of that. Sure anything can happen, but I like Texans in this one.
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Throw in Watt and they basically are the AFC's version of the 49ers.
And I really like Manning at FS. As a Bears fan, what's your take on Manning now? One of my good friends is a huge Bears fan and he used to rag on Manning relentlessly but I always used to tell him, if Manning ever broke away from that Cover 2, I thought he could be really good. I wanted the Niners to go after him when he was a free agent. I always thought they moved him around too much in Chicago and never really let him develop in a defined role.
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Another reason is that if the Falcons defense can confound Manning and shut him down, the Texans should definitely be able to.
I don't feel like the Falcons really shut Manning down as much as he just made a few terrible decisions.
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And I really like Manning at FS. As a Bears fan, what's your take on Manning now? One of my good friends is a huge Bears fan and he used to rag on Manning relentlessly but I always used to tell him, if Manning ever broke away from that Cover 2, I thought he could be really good. I wanted the Niners to go after him when he was a free agent. I always thought they moved him around too much in Chicago and never really let him develop in a defined role.
Yeah, he has made for a very good free safety in a non-cover 2. I would have liked to keep him but spending any real money on safeties just won't happen as long as Lovie is around. He just doesn't place much value on the position.

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I don't feel like the Falcons really shut Manning down as much as he just made a few terrible decisions.
They were confounding him though. They weren't getting set to allow Manning to read them presnap. If the Texans use that blueprint along with their superior defensive talent, they should be able to win this one.
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*shrug* and manning adjusted in the second half and was able to move the ball effectively. yes, the falcons did a great job in the first half and forced some horrific decisions. they still barely won.
I think at least a small part of the better performance in the 2nd half was that the Falcons were scraping the bottom of the barrel in CB depth after another injury.
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Im gonna say that Bengals/Redskins tops 70 points combined. Toss up in a shootout.
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I think Manning's interception were his fault for trying to speed things up too much. When he settled down after the first quarter he was fine. I expect that play to continue
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I'm so in love with the Texans front seven. Barwin and Watt were two of my favorite defensive players in recent drafts.
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What a terrible batch of noon games. Tampa/Dallas is probably the best one.
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Any advice for whom to take for a survivor league? I already took Chicago and Cincinnati. I'm pretty confident Green Bay will beat Seattle but I don't like taking road teams.
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What are your thoughts concerning the Rams vs the Bears? Could be the contest of "The Most Futile Offensive Lines in the NFL" Bowl or something.

Seriously, these two teams may have the worst OLs in the league by a large margin. Will be interesting to see which QB makes it through the game and which is carried off on his shield.

Peppers against Wayne Hunter? This sounds just wrong and should be considered all but illegal. Of course, Robert Quinn v, JaMarcus Webb...heh...now that's more like it!!
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BeerBaron:

What are your thoughts concerning the Rams vs the Bears? Could be the contest of "The Most Futile Offensive Lines in the NFL" Bowl or something.

Seriously, these two teams may have the worst OLs in the league by a large margin. Will be interesting to see which QB makes it through the game and which is carried off on his shield.

Peppers against Wayne Hunter? This sounds just wrong and should be considered all but illegal. Of course, Robert Quinn v, JaMarcus Webb...heh...now that's more like it!!
Yeah, I expect that both QBs will get hit a lot in this one. I like the Bears to win at home after a long layoff. In the past two seasons, the team was able to use its bye week to sure up the o-line a little bit after disastrous early season performances, so hopefully they were able to use this layoff as a mini-bye week of sorts.

Additionally, Cutler bounces back well from poor games:

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Cutler's anemic 28.2 passer rating against the Packers was the second-worst of his career and the 10th time he has been below 50. His passer rating the next weeks has been 95 or better eight times and his teams have a 7-3 record.
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