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Final roster is out, here is our 53

QB (3): Peyton Manning, Caleb Hanie, Brock Osweiler
RB (4): Willis McGahee, Ronnie Hillman, Lance Ball, Knowshon Moreno
FB (1): Chris Gronkowski
WR (5): Demaryius Thomas, Eric Decker, Andre Caldwell, Brandon Stokley, Matthew Willis
TE (3): Joel Dressen, Jacon Tamme, Julius Thomas
OT (3): Ryan Clady, Orlando Franklin, Chris Clark
OG (4): Chris Kuper, Zane Beadles, Manny Ramirez, C.J. Davis
C (2): J.D. Walton, Philip Blake

DE (4): Elvis Dumervil, Derek Wolfe, Robert Ayers, Malik Jackson
DT (4): Ty Warren, Justin Bannan, Kevin Vickerson Mitch Unrein
LB (7): Von Miller, Joe Mays, Wesley Woodyard, Keith Brooking, Steven Johnson, Danny Trevathan, Nate Irving
CB (5): Champ Bailey, Tracy Porty, Chris Harris, Omar Bolden, Tony Carter
S (5): Quinton Carter, Mike Adams, Rahim Moore, Davis Bruton, Jim Leonhard

ST (3): Matt Prater, Briton Colquitt, Aaron Brewer

Suspended Reserve: D.J. Williams, Virgil Green
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Kinda shocked we kept 3 QB, even more shocked it was Haine over Weber.
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Wolfe has been playing end in our base and kicking inside for nickle/dime packages.

Love keeping carter over squid/florence. I also like that we held onto steve johnson and trevathon.

Unfortunately we still have hanie, knowshon and old man brooking. Caleb hanie is garbo, jerimiah johnson was my least favorite cut, compound that with holding onto slowshon makes it that much worse. Keith brooking is ancient and pmuch useless at this point. Didn't like signing andre caldwell, then seeing him drop like five very catchable balls in the preseason further reinforced my disdain for him. Julius thomas has shown nothing, once green gets back from suspension I expect he'll take his spot (at least I hope)on the roster.

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If we can figure out how to gt the defense off the field on third and long, we may be onto something.
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Great win to start the season.

* The offense moved the ball pretty much at will. Manning was in full field general mode and made good use of his weapons. It's hard to be critical of anything on this side of the ball.

* Joe Mays either lights it up or looks like a fool. He doesn't seem to have any middle ground. Unfortunately, there was too much "fool" tonight.

* The defense could've easily had 4 picks if they held on to the ball. More focus, please. Giving Big Ben second chances is asking for trouble.

* The Porter/Champ combination looks very good... too bad the safeties aren't anywhere close to that level.
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it would be great if we'd stop using linebackers to cover people they can't keep up with. i "can't wait" to watch joe mays try to cover gronkowski or jimmy graham.
This seems like it's been a problem since forever. DJ is fast, but can't cover worth ****. Woodyard is a little better, but he got schooled last night by the Steelers. Mays is a disaster. Miller has some potential, but it's almost a victory for the other team to have him in coverage instead of disrupting the play.

I will say this, though, Woodyard was a force in pursuit when he wasn't getting beaten in coverage. That's what you want from your WLB. DJ may have superior athletic ability, but instincts and football smarts count for a lot at LB.
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but yeah, if mays is still on the field, we have a serious and severe talent deficiency at LB. i love the guy, but he's just not very good. we really need one of the young guys to be able to run with a TE, or we need to quit putting linebackers on the field on third down.
I believe they put Adams on Heath Miller later in the game and it worked out better... the old big nickle. It would help if we had a better group of safeties, though.
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This lack of a consistent pass rush is completely unacceptable with all of the talent on the d-line. It's mind-boggling. And I hope that's the final nail in Moreno's coffin.
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how bad must hillman be if he's inactive while garbage like moreno and ball are actually getting into games? just awesome.
Hillman's hammy + lack of experience in pass protect means they are going to be cautious about putting him on the field.

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They were.... I actually lost my mind watching the early part of the game and had to take a timeout. Not only did they fail to make the calls, but they proved unequal to the task of managing the game as a whole.

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they still didn't force peyton to throw those passes. they didn't force moreno to be the worst player of all time. and they didn't force del rio to shift into a zone with 15 yards of underneath padding on a crucial 3rd and 4.
And yet with all of that, we came back and made it interesting. I think that is the positive to take away from the game. There were times in the past when a few bad breaks early pretty much caused the team to give up (e.g. that debacle against the Raiders at home a few years back).
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Agree with everything except there being no pass rush. We were getting consistent pressure against pitt week 1 but ben was ben. Monday was more atl calling a lot of quick pass plays, often with matty ice throwing with someone in his face.

Some things worth noting; walton and beadles have looked so much better thus far this season. Still not sold on either, but it's nice to see.

DT looks like hes peytons go to guy, despite nearly everyone thinking it'd be decker. I hope he can stay healthy the whole year.

Our dt rotation has looked great. Unrein has been a big surprise. Foster/tate are the real test though.

Rahim moore seems to be playing much more instinctive, it'd be nice to see him actually hang onto the ball for the pick just once though.
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Manny looked terrible yesterday. If course he was goin up against probably the hottest defensive player in the league atm.

Mike adams had a bad day.
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rahim moore has been really solid so far this year. mike mostly up and down.
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Yeah, the dream makes me extremely nervous. Has some promise though.
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mike adams looked really good sunday against the raiders. then again, pmuch everyone wearing orange did. rahim hasn't made a lot of splash plays, but he no longer looks autistic out there.

i'm scared to see dan koppen against wilfork this week though.
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i'm more scared to see gronkowski vs. our linebackers. and welker/edelman on short crossing routes.

peyton better be prepared to score 60.
This. The Patriots are a tough matchup for any back 7 and we lack the kind of interior pass rush needed to really get in Brady's grill. If all the pressure is coming from the outside, he'll step up and work the middle of the field all day long.

I wonder if we'll see Brooking start over Mays again, even with Mays now done his suspension. Against the Pats, I'd take brains and experience over the human cannonball act.
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i'd expect woodyard to be the primary coverage guy on gronk with safety help over the top. thank god hernandez is likely out (i think?).

i'd much rather see ayers start at DE with wolfe primarily playing UT, but del rio has been pretty god damn stubborn apparently.
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My Broncos/Patriots preview is up on NEPatriotsDraft:

http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2012/...tml#more-20745

I'm pretty nervous about this game, mostly because of New England's lack of healthy receivers.
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I'm pretty nervous about this game, mostly because of New England's lack of healthy receivers.
and healthy TEs and S's.
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we can't cover anyone you decide to play at TE, i wouldn't worry about it. and we probably can't stop ridley.

so as long as the entire playbook doesn't consist of 'get woodhead the ball, whatever it takes' again, you'll probably be fine.
Come on, particulrly as a Broncos fan you should never under estimate the lunacy of Josh McDaniels
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Whatever happened to Nate Irving? I was a big fan of his coming out. But I haven't heard much from him at all so far in his NFL career.
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also, i really want te'o. our linebackers are pathetic.
So I guess this indirectly answers my inquiry on Nate Irving...

I thought he was gonna be good too. Sucks. I was rooting for him.
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oops, sorry, i missed your post. apparently he's just not very good? i dunno. i haven't seen him play a down. which means, if he can't even beat out crap like mays he's probably not worth much.
It's tough to say with Fox. His biggest flaw is he's waaaaaay too loyal to his veterans.
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Mays is at the top in terms of % of defensive snaps played. My read is that the team sees something in him that they are hoping will translate to the field... but it just ain't happening. He whiffs or guesses wrong way too often, and is a total liability on 3rd down. Brooking at MLB makes a lot more sense to me.

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Nate Irving is officially the backup to Von Miller at SLB. He actually flashed some stuff in preseason, but he's behind our most dynamic player on D - unless Von is totally gassed/hurt, Irving isn't going to see the field.
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Mays is at the top in terms of % of defensive snaps played. My read is that the team sees something in him that they are hoping will translate to the field... but it just ain't happening. He whiffs or guesses wrong way too often, and is a total liability on 3rd down. Brooking at MLB makes a lot more sense to me.



Nate Irving is officially the backup to Von Miller at SLB. He actually flashed some stuff in preseason, but he's behind our most dynamic player on D - unless Von is totally gassed/hurt, Irving isn't going to see the field.
You guys need to go back to a 3-4 defense. You have the pieces for it, but the coaching staff isn't a 3-4 staff.

Play Von at SOLB, Dooms at WOLB, Irving at SILB in a role similar to Lawrence Timmons, and a speed WILB in an attacking 1 gap 34 front. The DT you guys drafted, I forgot his name, but he can easily play LE in a 1 gap 34.

You just need a 5 tech and NT. DJ can play WILB.

And some DBs.

I'm sure Jack uses a lot of over formations that are basically 34 looks anyway, but get Nate out there. I want to see what he can do in a thumper/attacking role inside next to Von.
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