Week 3 Discussion Thread

[K Train]

something i thought was interesting was ponder is completing at a league high 76% with over 500 yards and 2 TDs no picks. hmmm

[Giantsfan1080]

Ponder looked pretty good in the couple of games I saw him in last year. I haven't been able to watch him yet though so I don't know what kind of jump he possibly made. I'm interested in seeing him play.

[abaddon41_80]

Originally Posted by K Train

something i thought was interesting was ponder is completing at a league high 76% with over 500 yards and 2 TDs no picks. hmmm

I will reserve judgement until he plays someone other then the Jaguars or Colts.

[K Train]

Originally Posted by abaddon41_80

I will reserve judgement until he plays someone other than the Jaguars or Colts.

that kinda what i was getting at. We all knew he was fast and chad-pennington like accurate so the high completion percentage is no surprising, be interesting to see how he does against the niners defense

[BeerBaron]

Originally Posted by K Train

that kinda what i was getting at. We all knew he was fast and chad-pennington like accurate so the high completion percentage is no surprising, be interesting to see how he does against the niners defense

Going totally out a limb here: not well.

[K Train]

well i mean they could very well eat him

[abaddon41_80]

I actually think Ponder will do better against us than most people think. The 49ers weakness on defense, if they have one, is short, quick passes, which is Ponder's strength, and small, shifty receivers, Percy Harvin. I am not expecting a gamebreaking performance but around 55% completions on 40 passes, 240 yards, one touchdown and one interception is what I would predict.

[Cigaro]

Originally Posted by jrdrylie

I'm not sure I like that bet. In their two games this year, both teams have had an average of 3.5 sacks happen in the game. I don't think this bet is as much of a lock as last week's. Good luck.

I dunno, our offensive line had a much better performance week two, but at the same time that was against a paltry Saints' defensive line. I could easily see the Giants going off on us. Wouldn't surprise me if Byron Bell/Bruce Campbell got victimized a bit. Of course Cam's mobility means he may be able to escape a few would be sacks, but we will see.

[jrdrylie]

Originally Posted by abaddon41_80

Interesting comparison I saw somewhere else,

QB A:

~1500/2500 (60%)
~16000-17000 yards
~6.6 Y/A
~100 TD
~65 INT
~82 QB rating
44-38 record as a starter
13 fourth quarter comebacks

Average team ranks:
Defense: 16th
Running Game: 16th

vs.

QB B:

1593/2793 (57%)
18644 yards
6.7 Y/A
125 TD
88 INT
79.2 QB Rating
50-37 record as a starter
13 fourth quarter comebacks

Average team ranks:
Defense: 18th
Running game: 8th

I know people here don't like comparing quarterbacks without knowing who they are, though given that I am posting it you likely know who one of them is. This is not my comparison originally, though I did expand upon it. But these two quarterbacks seem pretty similar to me.

Is this another one of those trick questions where both QBs are Alex Smith?

[abaddon41_80]

Originally Posted by jrdrylie

Is this another one of those trick questions where both QBs are Alex Smith?

It is not. Only one of those QBs is Alex Smith

[brat316]

Alex Smith and Eli Manning?

[Giantsfan1080]

No way it's Eli. Eli has almost 30,000 yards and 200 TD's in his career.

[jrdrylie]

Originally Posted by abaddon41_80

It is not. Only one of those QBs is Alex Smith

Interesting because Alex Smith's career numbers don't match either of those. Slightly under 13000 yards and 72 TDs. Now, it seems like you are projecting Alex Smith to reach the numbers of QB A by the end of the season. I'm not quite sure who QB B is.

[killxswitch]

I'm not gonna play.

[jrdrylie]

It is Eli Manning, just using his first six seasons. Not exactly a balanced comparison because you are comparing Eli's six seasons with eight seasons of Alex Smith. Plus you are projecting numbers for Smith.

[brat316]

seriously stop with this compare qb A with qb B. It took Alex forever and a competent coach to get here.

Game manager vs Game Winner.

[Giantsfan1080]

Eli is not the rule to a developing QB, he's the exception. I hate how every struggling young QB is always compared to Eli because he took off.

[scottyboy]

I swear, Smith's been fellated more times on this board than he has by any one he's ever dated

[jrdrylie]

I can do the same thing

QB A:
59% completion
12005 Yards
77 TD
46 INT
28-28 record

QB B:
54.6% completion
11385 yards
77 TD
64 INT
30-25 record

Seems pretty similar right? You might even say QB A is the better QB. Well... QB A is Matt Cassell (56 career starts). QB B is Eli Manning in his first 55 starts.

[Ness]

Originally Posted by scottyboy

I swear, Smith's been fellated more times on this board than he has by any one he's ever dated

And you always blow up every Rutgers player in the NFL.

[scottyboy]

Originally Posted by Ness

And you always blow up every Rutgers player in the NFL.

But at least I'm:

- hilarious

- adorable

- homoerotic

- correct


actually, that's not even completely true. I blow up every Rutgers player even if they're not in the NFL.

Like if niner fans wanted to brag for days about that ridiculous defense, then yeah, they're ******* scary. Even the Oline. Or Vernon. But no, it's all about a painfully average QB. It's confusing

[AntoinCD]

Stats taken in a vacuum are not a good way to evaluate things. I mean, take this as an example

QB A

3348/5398 63.9% 40,531 yards 303TDs 116INTs

QB B

354/680 52.1% 4083 yards 18TDs 23INTs


QB A is Tom Brady while QB B is Jamarcus Russell, however no one is going to argue Brady is better than Russell, I mean, Russell was the #1 pick after all

[Bengals78]

Originally Posted by scottyboy

But at least I'm:

- hilarious

- adorable

- homoerotic

- correct


actually, that's not even completely true. I blow up every Rutgers player even if they're not in the NFL.

Like if niner fans wanted to brag for days about that ridiculous defense, then yeah, they're ******* scary. Even the Oline. Or Vernon. But no, it's all about a painfully average QB. It's confusing

Yeah, if you werent adorable or homoerotic it wouldn't be nearly as cool...
But Brian Leonard would still be sexy.

[BeerBaron]

I hated the anonymous stats last year, and hate them even more this year.

[Ness]

Originally Posted by scottyboy

But at least I'm:

- hilarious

- adorable

- homoerotic

- correct


actually, that's not even completely true. I blow up every Rutgers player even if they're not in the NFL.

Like if niner fans wanted to brag for days about that ridiculous defense, then yeah, they're ******* scary. Even the Oline. Or Vernon. But no, it's all about a painfully average QB. It's confusing

Really? I think you're just plain obnoxious with that nonsense. And it's not like Rutgers is playing for a national championship every year. I'd be one thing if you were blowing up LSU or Alabama. But Rutgers? Meh.