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Old 09-20-2012, 11:36 PM    (permalink
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BARDEN!!!!!

Haha, I think you and I were the only two Barden supporters left.

Let us enjoy this before BBD comes in and ruins it.
I have been in the camp. I was rocking a sig of him before we drafted him. I am glad he has finally shown up in a regular season game.
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beatty wasn't garbage tonight forenci, so there's that.

but wow, what a night
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BARDEN!!!!!

Haha, I think you and I were the only two Barden supporters left.

Let us enjoy this before BBD comes in and ruins it.
How dare you forget me! Hell I still believe in beatty if he ever manages to stay healthy.

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beatty wasn't garbage tonight forenci, so there's that.

but wow, what a night
Hey, when healthy he's actually kinda good at pass pro n just mediocre as a run blocker.
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That game was so awesomely boring.
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We needed one of those. Let's just hope all is fine on the injury front this afternoon.
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Hixon has to be wally pipped now! No way he can keep his job with Barden having a game like that. Hixon couldn't do that! Not saying Barden is amazing, but Hixon can't do that.

I want to see Nicks at X, Barden at Z, and Cruz inside! Oh yeah our red zone play calling is bush league. I'd say what I really think but it would get filtered!
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Barden did have an awesome game but Hixon can play inside as well. Which Barden can't. Or at least I assume he can't, because he couldn't do anything until last night. He's too painfully slow to play the slot.
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I want to see what JJ can do. Sometimes I feel like our players aren't given a chance to see what they can do. As if they have a short leash with Coughlin. You mess up once and you're done. It was annoying to see Scott kill the game and get reps rather than your damn first round pick.

Play JJ and see what we have.
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Jernigan is garbage I said it last night and I'll say it again. We don't develop our small WR's well. I liked the pick at the time but after seeing him I don't think he'll do much for us.

Tynes was so awesome last night also. Long kickoffs, booming FG's right down the pipe.
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Barden did have an awesome game but Hixon can play inside as well. Which Barden can't. Or at least I assume he can't, because he couldn't do anything until last night. He's too painfully slow to play the slot.
It's weird because he timed well coming out of college. He seems to have lost that speed with the injury though.
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beatty wasn't garbage tonight forenci, so there's that.

but wow, what a night
Haha yeah, Beatty actually played well. I was very surprised on that front. Granted they don't have a great defensive line but he did really well.

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I want to see what JJ can do. Sometimes I feel like our players aren't given a chance to see what they can do. As if they have a short leash with Coughlin. You mess up once and you're done. It was annoying to see Scott kill the game and get reps rather than your damn first round pick.

Play JJ and see what we have.
That's actually very true. I feel like a lot of players don't get their fair shake because of how Coughlin treats rookies. Like I feel now Wilson would have normally got a ton of carries in this game but Coughlin likes to baby them so Brown got the bulk.

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Jernigan is garbage I said it last night and I'll say it again. We don't develop our small WR's well. I liked the pick at the time but after seeing him I don't think he'll do much for us.

Tynes was so awesome last night also. Long kickoffs, booming FG's right down the pipe.
Yeah, Tynes has been underrated for a few years now. He's money and pretty damn clutch at this point.

It also seemed like Prince played really well. I don't remember him ever giving up much, if anything, to whoever he covered.
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prince played really well. And as i told my friend who has wilson in fantasy, Coughlin treats rookies like 2nd class citizens. they don't get time unless we're really desperate
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If you guys get Barden going it is really going to pay dividends to your offense, especially in the red zone. Having that kind of size on the outside to pair with Nicks who plays much bigger then he is and the shiftiness of Cruz in the slot will create matchup nightmares and thats not even including Marty B.

Spread it out all day and if defenses want to get cute with the coverages QB draw all day.
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If you guys get Barden going it is really going to pay dividends to your offense, especially in the red zone. Having that kind of size on the outside to pair with Nicks who plays much bigger then he is and the shiftiness of Cruz in the slot will create matchup nightmares and thats not even including Marty B.

Spread it out all day and if defenses want to get cute with the coverages QB draw all day.
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prince played really well. And as i told my friend who has wilson in fantasy, Coughlin treats rookies like 2nd class citizens. they don't get time unless we're really desperate
Wilson has shown nothing so far so I don't blame the staff for not using him.
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Wilson has shown nothing so far so I don't blame the staff for not using him.
in space he's looked good, but I agree. It's also that coughlin, as we all know, just does not like to play rookies for the most part.

barring 2007 of course
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in space he's looked good, but I agree. It's also that coughlin, as we all know, just does not like to play rookies for the most part.

barring 2007 of course
We like to bring them along slowly. I don't think we can argue with the way the staff handles it.

How about Marty B.?? What a steal. Ahh I love games like lst night. So any positives I want to go over.
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We like to bring them along slowly. I don't think we can argue with the way the staff handles it.

How about Marty B.?? What a steal. Ahh I love games like lst night. So any positives I want to go over.
True, no real complaints.

And there are a ton of positives, I just don't know if it's because of Carolina being poop or us clicking. So many things worked in our favor. Our D looked unreal. That's the biggest thing to take from it. They were healthy, they were fired up and made plays against a talented offense. Love it
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True, no real complaints.

And there are a ton of positives, I just don't know if it's because of Carolina being poop or us clicking. So many things worked in our favor. Our D looked unreal. That's the biggest thing to take from it. They were healthy, they were fired up and made plays against a talented offense. Love it
Geez I need to proofread my comments when I'm at work. So many errors.

With Prince and Hosley back the D should be studly. Williams, Rivers, Boley, talent all over. I can't wait for Canty also.

I think we need to sit Diehl and Bradshaw when they get back. I doubt Coughlin does it but it's time. Someone made a Stephen Davis comparison with Brown and I though that was pretty good.
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I want to see the bench guys play. I wouldn't be surprised if JJ actually did well. I just don't see the awe factor in Hixon. He is a solid guy who can play outside and inside, but I'd play Barden over Hixon, and see what happens.

If we don't give Barden a chance, he won't re-sign to be on the bench. Somewhere a team will use this tape and get him in free agency. And they will play him!

So unless Hixon is a long term guy, play the guy you developed. Give Barden his chance. Give Brown now his chance and make Bradshaw a chance to step up. David D. is gone and the OL is playing very well. So now put him as a backup.
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I agree with all that. Barden is better than Hixon. Brown hits the hole and runs while Bradshaw has lost a step and dances too much.
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I feel like in the running game, Brown and (hopefully) Wilson could be the changing of the guard. We've got Bradshaw locked up and he's a solid guy, great vet, we love him to death, but eventually Brown (I know I might be over-reacting as it's been 2 games) and Wilson could be our 1-2 punch, which would be awesome.

I realized, we liked Brown enough to keep him over Ware, so there's something to be said in that
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Yeah definitely a metaphoric handoff against Tampa and Carolina. We'll see how Coughlin handles this.
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