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Old 09-11-2012, 11:55 PM    (permalink
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With most games this week being top 25 teams against what seemed like the bottom 25 in FBS or even FCS teams....there wasn't a lot to gauge players on this weekend.

But I think after Saturday, Jarvis Jones may be the top defensive player in the country. I thought he was a potential top 15 pick if he came out last year. He may not go any higher in the 2013 draft, but to me, the kid is Aldon Smith, but with the ability to play inside in a 3-4 or be a stud WLB in a Cover 2 scheme. Not really much this kid CAN'T do. Unlike most pass rushing studs, he makes plays in the run game. He also had a PD and INT this weekend. I love KeKe Mingo, but Jarvis is simply a better football player at this point with just as much upside.
He started some games at MLB for USC as a freshman.
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He owned BC last year, but that is not saying much. I will be watching COnner closely.
Vernon is a really good player - a really under the radar talent.
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He started some games at MLB for USC as a freshman.
Umm, Galipo started every game for USC at MLB that year.
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*James Morris JR ILB Iowa: Played a great game, had 12 tackles and a key interception late in the contest. Was literally all over the field, showed great closing speed for an inside linebacker and good tackling toughness. If he keeps up this level of play he is easily one of the top 5 ILBs in the nation potentially.


*C.J. Fiedorowicz JR TE Iowa: Another freak tight end prospect, huge kid, has taken forever to be productive on the field. But is a good athlete, really long arms and is the classic tall pass catching tight end the NFL and all of football is using so often. Could be a really high pick this year or next.


*Jake McDonough SR DT Iowa State: Very impressive player, will have to watch him throughout the year. Really beat the Iowa offensive line many times in that game. Tough, got consistent pressure and could be a surprise player in a weak DT class.


*A.J. Klein SR ILB Iowa State: Solid, did not flash as much as Morris but has been more consistent over his career. Sound in coverage and a smart player, good pickup for any roster in rounds 3-6 possibly.


*Jacques Washington JR FS Iowa State: Like his potential and size at free safety, big kid, strong and runs well. Could develop nicely maybe down the line as a safety.

*David Irving SOPH DE Iowa State: All potential, young player has is a huge kid at 6-7, still has a long ways to go but is one to watch because of that frame.


*Tanner Miller JR FS Iowa: Like his development, solid player, good tackler. Is not a star safety but could be a decent prospect come his senior season. Makes plays and shows up on the field consistently.


*Jake Knott SR OLB Iowa State: The other star linebacker on Iowa State, instinctive, not really fast but is smart and stout at the point of attack, decent late round prospect with lots of experience.




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rawdawg But I think after Saturday, Jarvis Jones may be the top defensive player in the country. I thought he was a potential top 15 pick if he came out last year. He may not go any higher in the 2013 draft, but to me, the kid is Aldon Smith, but with the ability to play inside in a 3-4 or be a stud WLB in a Cover 2 scheme. Not really much this kid CAN'T do. Unlike most pass rushing studs, he makes plays in the run game. He also had a PD and INT this weekend. I love KeKe Mingo, but Jarvis is simply a better football player at this point with just as much upside.
Is just all over the place, he was a standout long before this season clearly. Could argue he would have been the #1 OLB prospect in the 2012 draft class if he came out.



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rawdawg- Johnathan Franklin, RB, SR, UCLA. Obviously had a huge game in a big upset. Not sure if he was draftable before this weekend, but got himself on the map, where I thought he was a couple years ago.
I disagree, even before this season and his great success, he was going to be drafted based off the potential he showed last year. Now he will just be drafted higher because of his great play so far this year.


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Umm, Galipo started every game for USC at MLB that year.
Yeah I think that is correct, Jarvis Jones only started a few at OLB that season. Galippo, wow one of the most over hyped high school player recently, was supposed to be better than Rey and yeah....
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*James Morris JR ILB Iowa: Played a great game, had 12 tackles and a key interception late in the contest. Was literally all over the field, showed great closing speed for an inside linebacker and good tackling toughness. If he keeps up this level of play he is easily one of the top 5 ILBs in the nation potentially.


*C.J. Fiedorowicz JR TE Iowa: Another freak tight end prospect, huge kid, has taken forever to be productive on the field. But is a good athlete, really long arms and is the classic tall pass catching tight end the NFL and all of football is using so often. Could be a really high pick this year or next.


*Jake McDonough SR DT Iowa State: Very impressive player, will have to watch him throughout the year. Really beat the Iowa offensive line many times in that game. Tough, got consistent pressure and could be a surprise player in a weak DT class.


*A.J. Klein SR ILB Iowa State: Solid, did not flash as much as Morris but has been more consistent over his career. Sound in coverage and a smart player, good pickup for any roster in rounds 3-6 possibly.


*Jacques Washington JR FS Iowa State: Like his potential and size at free safety, big kid, strong and runs well. Could develop nicely maybe down the line as a safety.

*David Irving SOPH DE Iowa State: All potential, young player has is a huge kid at 6-7, still has a long ways to go but is one to watch because of that frame.


*Tanner Miller JR FS Iowa: Like his development, solid player, good tackler. Is not a star safety but could be a decent prospect come his senior season. Makes plays and shows up on the field consistently.


*Jake Knott SR OLB Iowa State: The other star linebacker on Iowa State, instinctive, not really fast but is smart and stout at the point of attack, decent late round prospect with lots of experience.




Is just all over the place, he was a standout long before this season clearly. Could argue he would have been the #1 OLB prospect in the 2012 draft class if he came out.



I disagree, even before this season and his great success, he was going to be drafted based off the potential he showed last year. Now he will just be drafted higher because of his great play so far this year.


Yeah I think that is correct, Jarvis Jones only started a few at OLB that season. Galippo, wow one of the most over hyped high school player recently, was supposed to be better than Rey and yeah....
He wasn't over-hyped, he was injured. He went from being a great athlete at the position to a sub-par one due to his spinal injuries. Weren't you a bandwagon SC fan at one point? I thought you'd know that.
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Sure there is always something one can blame for it. But athletes can come back from injuries, because same things could be said for Jarvis Jones, who on USC suffered a neck sprain his freshman year and it slowed him during 2010 spring ball as well. Not really effecting his play recently has it, being a USC fan, I thought you'd know that?
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Ozzy, you're probably right, but I thought coming into the 2011 season that Franklin was a guy that was going to be good enough to leave early after his JR season. But he never really quite put it together last year. In his Soph year, he showed he was capable of the big play with 8-9 runs over 25 yards, including a 59 yarder vs. USC. He also showed he could carry the load some with 6 games over 18 carries. Last year he didn't really do much of either. Never hit 18 carries once and had big plays against only terrible teams (Colorado) or in blowouts.

Not draftable might have been a stretch, but I for one, would never pick a RB after the 5th round. You're likely to get one just as good as a UDFA. And I thought Franklin was a borderline 5th rounder most of last year.
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Sure there is always something one can blame for it. But athletes can come back from injuries, because same things could be said for Jarvis Jones, who on USC suffered a neck sprain his freshman year and it slowed him during 2010 spring ball as well. Not really effecting his play recently has it, being a USC fan, I thought you'd know that?

Two different injuries, two different players, two different body types. But yes, feel free to compare. USC has had plenty of overrated recruits enter the program over the last 11 years (Whitney Lewis, Jeff Byers, Patrick Turner, and the list goes on), but Galippo is not one of them.
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Bjoern Werner/Tank Carradine, DE, FSU
Devin Smith, WR, OSU
Keenan Allen, WR, CAL
Dee Milliner, CB, Bama
Eddie Lacy, RB, Bama
Johnathan Hankins, DT, OSU
Stepfan Taylor, RB, Stanford
Marqise Lee, WR, USC
De'Anthony Thomas, RB/WR, Oregon
Geno Smith, QB, WVU
Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville
Cordarelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford
Jawan Jameson, RB, Rutgers
William Gholston, DE, Mich St.
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Week 2:
*Star Lotulelei SR NT Utah: Holy ****, clearly the kid is not over hyped. He is all over the field, is in wonderful shape, thick, strong, quick. He is totally deserving of a high high 1st round selection. Unlike Mr. Poe from last year. Lotuelei was more productive and active on the field in like a half than Poe was all last season for Memphis.


*Justin Hunter JR WR Tennessee: What a flipping freak show, looks a lot stronger than he did as a freshman. Still has that good speed and leaping ability. Should be without question the #1 WR taken in the draft if he comes out.


*Bjoern Werner JR DE Florida State: Umm, cannot play much better than he has played. He is working his way into becoming a 1st round pick, no question. Sack machine, always had raw ability, now he is just simply killing on the line. If he keeps this up could easily be the #1 DE taken in the draft.


*Kelvin Benjamin FR WR Florida State: Wow, kid is gigantic, still very raw but what a prospect for the future. Big and strong, he could be ridiculous in time, one to really watch.


*Jamon Brown SOPH OT Louisville: One of the best tackles I have seen this year. Love his effort and athletic ability, played great football and appears to be an elite athlete. Will have to watch him more closely down the road that is for sure.


*Cory Grissom SR NT South Florida: Big thick beast, can gain penetration and get into the backfield. Is not an elite athlete clearly but for a space eater and a solid NT he is a good looking player.


*TJ Barnes SR NT Georgia Tech: Amazing size at 6-7 345, but he carries it well, does not look like just a big guy who cannot move out there. Gets good push, at times can get off blocks but not really well. Still is solid and as a NT prospect he would be a great pickup behind the stars ahead of him, that is for sure, and he should be getting a lot more attention than he is.


*Brandon Coleman JR WR Rutgers: A very impressive physical athlete, huge kid, looks as strong as can be. Not always as productive as he should be but still the potential is there. Will see how he does the rest of the season.


*Cameron Erving SOPH OT Florida State: Was a flipping defensive tackle last year, now is on offense and looks great. What a tackle prospect, clearly has the size and explosive ability. What a switch by the staff and he is playing great for being new to the position.


*Mychal Rivera SR TE Tennessee: Coming out of nowhere, really played great and taking advantage of his last season. Being a great pass catching tight end, fast and can stretch the field. Could be an ok late round pickup if he works out well.


*Ben Gardner JR DE Stanford: The kid lived in the backfield for Stanford, it was crazy how often he is back there getting pressure on Barkley. Really impressed and showed a ton of potential as a possible 3/4 DE or a 4/3 DE, really productive and is a must watch in the future.


*Dareyon Chance JR RB Western Michigan: The guy is literally 5-0 tall, might be the shortest football player I have ever heard of. But he can play, his thick, runs hard and quick as can be. Might get a chance in the league because he is so hard to find and get low on. Will watch his productive in time that is for sure.


*Nick Moody SR OLB Florida State: Physical freak, wish he was still at safety but a good move long term to put him at linebacker. Really takes on blocks well, can get pressure and obviously has wonderful speed. Could be one hell of a prospect considering all of the spread offenses in football now a days.


*Dann O'Neill SR OT Western Michigan: One to really watch for, huge kid at 6-8, has decent technical skill and mobility on the field for a guy his size. Could develop into a very fine player at the next level. Should be a solid prospect at offensive tackle in a some what weak class coming up for the draft.


*Jamie Wilson FR WR Western Michigan: Very good looking receiver, great route runner, soft hands, quick. Should be real productive all season long for Western Michigan. Great looking prospect for such a small school.


*Ra'Shede Hageman JR DT Minnesota: Really nice looking talent, has never really played great but now he getting strong and learning pass rush moves. Had great quarterback pressures late in the game. Nice size, good athlete being a former tight end, could be one to really watch come next season that is for sure.


*Tre Jackson SOPH OG Florida State: Like his size, like his athletic ability, good in motion and blocking down field. Nice looking player on a sound Florida State offensive line.


*Trent Murphy JR OLB Stanford: Freak show athlete, huge kid, great size. Lacks in production at times but is one to keep an eye on. Can be a terror at times and has potential as a OLB or DE, nice talent.


*Mark Harrison SR WR Rutgers: Huge kid, very physically strong, looks like a linebacker. Has soft hands, runs good routes and is part of a stellar receiving core for Rutgers. Could sneak into the draft with good workouts I think with his size.


*Marquise Goodwin SR WR Texas: This Olympian should be in the NFL next year. Obviously has speed and is a great athlete. He is quick, runs routes well, catches the ball effortlessly. He is a player and should be a great pick in rounds 3-5 possibly if not higher depending on what other WR's come out.


*Trevor Reilly JR OLB Utah: Love his size at OLB, 6-5, big tall kid but is a great athlete. Can really run and get after the quarterback. He is really fast and experienced in that defensive system, could be one heck of a prospect OLB in the draft this year or next.


*Cornellius Carradine SR DE Florida State: Played great just like his teammate. Really showing he has great speed for his size, toughness and can easily get consistent pressure. No real doubt he could do it, he showed this potential last year and now is just getting the playing time. Those two FSU ends will terrorize everyone they play this year, two of the best par of ends on one team in a long long time.


*Logan Ryan SR CB Rutgers: Love his ball skills, has nice size, reacts to the ball well and is a very good player. Could be a steal at corner for any team come next years draft.


*Joe Bergeron SOPH RB Texas: What a thick kid, huge really, very wide, fast and quick. Very nice prospect and great to see Texas getting back to the basics and running the football down hill.


*Alex Carder SR QB Western Michigan: Nice looking talent, should be drafted I feel. Has a big arm, good athlete and is a lot more sound technically than some other quarterbacks in his class.


*Rushel Shell FR RB Pitt: Another freshman star running back, what a surprise. Beast of a player, hard to bring down, very fast, will be really fun to watch develop in his career.


*Josh Mauro JR DT Stanford: Love his size for a defensive tackle, big tall kid and literally bull rushed the USC center into the backfield all by himself. Will be one to watch out for the rest of the season.


*Blake Hammond SR TE Western Michigan: Love his soft hands, really good at catching the football. Not a great athlete but is fast enough and is good at route running. His hands are what separates him, if he gets a chance in the NFL that will be why.


*Nick Waisome SOPH CB Florida State: Who needs Greg Reid? Waisome showed great ball skills and quickness at corner. Long arms, good reaction time, not the biggest player but he has the speed and the ball skills to be a sound corner prospect developmentally.


*Brendan Bigelow SOPH RB Cal: What a run, one of the best runs I have seen in awhile came from him. Showed great open field speed and toughness, if he keeps up this production he could be one heck of a prospect. And the stadium he did all of this at, very impressive for a unknown player before this game.


*Rashad Greene SOPH WR Florida State: Love his speed, really fast kid with good quickness as well. Small so that is an issue but hard to argue that deep threat potential that he is with the ball in his hands.


*Terrance Smith FR OLB Florida State: The keep getting these small linebackers, great speed and quickness, long arms and almost look like safeties. Will be interesting to see how they all pan out at the next level if they get there. But still they are building one heck of a defense in Tallahassee.






Disappointed:
DC Jefferson SR TE Rutgers: Not impressed with his blocking at all, and is almost a non prospect in the passing game. Big kid, had the physical size and athletic ability but still has a long ways to go, disappointing.

Cobi Hamilton SR WR Arkansas: What a soft player, I really liked his potential last year but disappeared against Bama. Has ability but he is really going to have to pickup his game, he has question mark all over him now unable to be the #1 receiver on Arkansas.

Knile Davis SR RB Arkansas: Just not the same, was so explosive and hard to stop before the injury. Still will get a chance in the NFL I feel though but is not as good as he once was, but who is against Alabama.

Johnny Adams SR CB Michigan State: Got beat a few times, disappointing, did not make many plays and seems slow to react in coverage. Still has time to improve but did not have a good showing at all this weekend.

Tyler Bray JR QB Tennessee: Still a good talent but shows he will have to come back another season. Has ability but his accuracy has to improve, much less his on the field and off the field leadership. Because it is not like he does not have weapons to throw too.

BJ Daniels SR QB South Florida: Tons of talent, and supposedly is being a better leader which is great. But just cannot throw the football that well, and lacks in accuracy. Still has time to prove himself but against a good defense he looked lost.

Brandon Mitchell JR WR/QB Arkansas: Really thought he had a lot of potential as a quarterback. But given a chance he did not play well at all, showed he is one heck of an athlete though. And clearly Arkansas already knows that and that is why he was playing WR before. Still has potential as a quarterback but really doubt he will become one.

EJ Manuel SR QB Florida State: Good player, they did win but if FSU does not make the National title game if will be because of him. Manuel is just not accurate and that seems to be one of the few things that could beat FSU right now is turnovers. Will see how he does the rest of the season, but hopefully he does not lose FSU the chance at a title, because the defense will never be an issue.





Note: Florida State put on one of the best defensive performances I have ever seen, they killed Wake! Penetration in the backfield on almost every play. Such speed at linebacker, like they have seven defensive backs out there. Very few missed tackles. Just sick performance, and oh yeah the defensive line performance, wow!
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*Star Lotulelei SR NT Utah: Holy ****, clearly the kid is not over hyped. He is all over the field, is in wonderful shape, thick, strong, quick. He is totally deserving of a high high 1st round selection. Unlike Mr. Poe from last year. Lotuelei was more productive and active on the field in like a half than Poe was all last season for Memphis.
Clearly at great year for NT prospects. Had a very nice game, much more impressed then when I watched him in the Utah St game. Hankins and Jenkins are going to make a push as top 15 picks imo

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*Justin Hunter JR WR Tennessee: What a flipping freak show, looks a lot stronger than he did as a freshman. Still has that good speed and leaping ability. Should be without question the #1 WR taken in the draft if he comes out.
I think it is safe to say he is healty, If Patterson delcares I think he is a guy who could climb up draft boards in a hurry.

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*Cory Grissom SR NT South Florida: Big thick beast, can gain penetration and get into the backfield. Is not an elite athlete clearly but for a space eater and a solid NT he is a good looking player.
Pork Chop was able to get some good penetration against Rutgers. Was able to jam up the run for a good portion of the game. As a Rutgers fan I can tell you the O-line is a sore spot on the team so it wasn't surprising that he was that effective. Wore down toward the end of the game.

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Xavier Rhodes looks like a grown man on the outside, he is my pet cat as a FS prospect but he is looking legit as a corner.
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Knile Davis makes me want to cry when I watch him this year. I feel really bad for the kid. He looked like the 2nd coming of Herschel Walker a couple years ago, now he looks like he needs a walker.

I was going back and forth between a few guys to start this season, as far as who's the best at their position. But just as Jarvis Jones officially separated himself for me last week, I think Star Lotulelei (even though Hankins also had a strong game) did so this week.

Also, I love CBs that play well for the non-powerhouse schools in BCS conferences. It's easy to look like a star CB when you have LSU or Bama's front 4. But guys like Logan Ryan (and Casey Hayward last year) are especially impressive to me because they constantly take the other team's best WR and do well against them despite very little support from the other 10 on D.

And I saw Rushel Shell play in HS here in Pittsburgh. He's a beast. Pitt fans were actually hoping for Ray Graham to leave school so that Shell would get more touches this year.
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Yeah I have liked him since he was a freshman, thought he had potential to come out early last year and be a very high pick at corner as a RS Sophomore. Had a good year but not flashy, this year I expect huge things out of him and I do believe he is a legit corner. Great technique, reacts well to the ball and has such long arms, he should be the #1 corner taken in the draft if he comes out early and plays up to his ability this year.


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I was going back and forth between a few guys to start this season, as far as who's the best at their position. But just as Jarvis Jones officially separated himself for me last week, I think Star Lotulelei (even though Hankins also had a strong game) did so this week.

Also, I love CBs that play well for the non-powerhouse schools in BCS conferences. It's easy to look like a star CB when you have LSU or Bama's front 4. But guys like Logan Ryan (and Casey Hayward last year) are especially impressive to me because they constantly take the other team's best WR and do well against them despite very little support from the other 10 on D.

And I saw Rushel Shell play in HS here in Pittsburgh. He's a beast. Pitt fans were actually hoping for Ray Graham to leave school so that Shell would get more touches this year.
Yeah I was really impressed with Rutgers overall, had a lot of good looking prospects. Not many great corners around but there are there if you look and Ryan is proof of that.

As for Shell, the best and most dominating running teams always have more than one RB. They are better off with both players because both can stay fresh and bring something different to the table.



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That should be the line of the day, good one.
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Yeah I have liked him since he was a freshman, thought he had potential to come out early last year and be a very high pick at corner as a RS Sophomore. Had a good year but not flashy, this year I expect huge things out of him and I do believe he is a legit corner. Great technique, reacts well to the ball and has such long arms, he should be the #1 corner taken in the draft if he comes out early and plays up to his ability this year.
NO! You SHHHHHH, he has to last till San Diego at #32 ;) lol

But another guy who really impressed me was Daniel McCullers. Dude was a MONSTER in the middle vs. Florida, was penetrating, and honestly doing whatever he wanted with that Florida interior OL...

He carries his weight better than any man that big ever should....EVER....he doesn't even look fat, like at all...
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But another guy who really impressed me was Daniel McCullers. Dude was a MONSTER in the middle vs. Florida, was penetrating, and honestly doing whatever he wanted with that Florida interior OL...

He carries his weight better than any man that big ever should....EVER....he doesn't even look fat, like at all...
Good call, he did flash that is for sure. I did not watch specifically him that much because I was flipping around through like 8 other games... Will really have to get a close look at him that is for sure, like you said, he does not move like a man listed as 6-8 360.

Against NC State early he did not flash as much as he did against Florida at times, but for sure is a worth a long close look at that size.
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Just noticed something that no one else has posted about. Stedman Bailey from WVU leads the NCAA in receiving yards per game with 138.5 and touchdowns with 5. With the way Geno is playing I think we will be seeing lots more of him this year.
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Stefon Diggs, WR, Maryland: Freshman receiver is probably already Maryland's best player. Dangerous both as a receiver and a kick returner.

Matt Frustenburg, TE, Maryland: should be considered along with Stonebrunner and Lutzenkirchen as a solid mid-late round TE

Sheldon Richardson, DL, Mizzou: Was a force early on though he seemed to wear down as the game progressed.

Casey Pachal, QB, TCU: I'm surprised at the progress he's made in the last year. Looks like a legitimate 2nd round prospect atm.

Tavon Austin/Ace Sanders: Two undersized playmakers who just seem to make things happen when the ball is in their hands.

Devin Taylor, DE, Scar: Clowney gets all the hype but Taylor is a solid player in his own right. Huge frame at 6'8.

Shaq Evans, WR, UCLA: Looks like someone to keep an eye out for going forward.

Kaseem Greene, LB, Rutgers: Very underrated propsect. Could see him going early on day 2.

Manti Te’o, LB, ND: Absolute stud, top 15 pick.

Kelvin Benjamin, WR, FSU: One of the best freshman receivers in the country. Crazy blend of size and speed.

Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon: Last night was the first I've seen of him and I was very surprised with his arm strength. Might have the makings of a top pick.

Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, CB Oregon: No one seems to be mentioning him but this kid can ball.

Colt Lyerla, TE/H-Back, Oregon: Might be one of the most intriguing prospects in the country. Will likely translate to TE at the next level with his blend of size, speed and blocking ability.

Cobi Hamilton, WR, Arkansas: Most wanted more from him and they got it and then some yesterday.

Xavier Rhodes, CB, FSU: Shut down Watkins/Hopkins more than adequately. Got beat on the first Ford TD but it looked like his teammate left him hanging.

Bjoern Werner/Tank Carradine, DE, FSU: Mentioned them last week but I have to again. They're the best pass rush combo in the country and they were the difference against Clemson. Consistently got pressure and disrupted the Clemson attack in the backfield. Werner has an outstanding motor and is a legitimate top 10 pick imo.

Disappointing:

Sean Mannion, QB, Oregon St.: He had a very solid game but I question his ability as a pro prospect. He has a very strange throwing motion I found. It's long developing and allows the DBs to get a good read on where he wants to go before the ball is out of his hand. Still lot's of time to correct this before he is even eligible however.

EJ Manuel/Landry Jones: Don't know if I would use a pick on either one tbh. Definitely wouldn't take them over a number of other QBs like Geno, Barkley, Pachall, Wilson, Bray, etc...

Marquess Wilson: Watched him the last two weeks and I saw some really bad drops. Numbers might be inflated due to his competition as well. I think he's a decent prospect but at the moment he's highly overrated.
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DT Johnathan Hankins was dominant this week. Showed why he will be a top pick next April if he declares for the draft. Making tackles all over the place, guys that big shouldn't be able to have that kind of quickness and movement ability.
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I should say, I wouldn't use a pick on Manuel. I don't think Jones is terrible but I certainly don't see the upside of a 1st round pick and I wouldn't take him over the guys I mentioned. He could make a solid backup at the least though.
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DT Johnathan Hankins was dominant this week. Showed why he will be a top pick next April if he declares for the draft. Making tackles all over the place, guys that big shouldn't be able to have that kind of quickness and movement ability.
I'm quickly becoming a big Hankins fan. I know he's versatile but if you had to pick one ideal position for him, what would it be?
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"Todd Bertuzzi" Stefon Diggs, WR, Maryland: Freshman receiver is probably already Maryland's best player. Dangerous both as a receiver and a kick returner. Totally agree, crazy impressed with the talent on Maryland in general, no clue they had that many good players.

Matt Frustenburg, TE, Maryland: should be considered along with Stonebrunner and Lutzenkirchen as a solid mid-late round TE True he should be a solid tight end prospect and will find a team in the NFL, quite the route runner and has nice burst of speed. Sadly for him he has a hell of a lot of competition around the country at that position.

Casey Pachal, QB, TCU: I'm surprised at the progress he's made in the last year. Looks like a legitimate 2nd round prospect atm. Totally agree, with his size at 6-5, great arm strength and awesome athletic ability. However he has very bad decision making at times which will possible keep him from ever being an elite player. Hopefully he comes back for his senior season next year, talent wise though he is right up there with the best of them

Tavon Austin/Ace Sanders: Two undersized playmakers who just seem to make things happen when the ball is in their hands. Yeah Ace had a hell of a game, what a return he had on special teams

Devin Taylor, DE, Scar: Clowney gets all the hype but Taylor is a solid player in his own right. Huge frame at 6'8. True, has been on the radar for what seems like forever, big time talent that yes gets overlooked

Shaq Evans, WR, UCLA: Looks like someone to keep an eye out for going forward. Yeah came out of no where, what an elite pass catcher, great speed and big play potential. But nice to have someone to throw him the ball too in Hundley

Kelvin Benjamin, WR, FSU: One of the best freshman receivers in the country. Crazy blend of size and speed. [b]That reverse he ran was insane, obviously has size but that kind of speed. One of the most rare physical athletes at receiver I have ever seen, was Calvin Johnson ever 243 pounds? It is crazy at that size to be that fast yet he does not look like a tight end and runs quite well.

Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon: Last night was the first I've seen of him and I was very surprised with his arm strength. Might have the makings of a top pick. Top pick, Oregon quarterback, since when? One name, Jeremiah Masoli looked like a quarterback star at Oregon too.....


Colt Lyerla, TE/H-Back, Oregon: Might be one of the most intriguing prospects in the country. Will likely translate to TE at the next level with his blend of size, speed and blocking ability. Finally Oregon has some power in that running game, they have been missing that for awhile now, not since Blount have they had a big power back like that, and this guy is bigger.

Cobi Hamilton, WR, Arkansas: Most wanted more from him and they got it and then some yesterday. Yeah I ripped him last week, really came back and what a turn around against decent corners on Rutgers.

Bjoern Werner/Tank Carradine, DE, FSU: Mentioned them last week but I have to again. They're the best pass rush combo in the country and they were the difference against Clemson. Consistently got pressure and disrupted the Clemson attack in the backfield. Werner has an outstanding motor and is a legitimate top 10 pick imo. Agree, Werner might not quite be top 10 with today's offense driven NFL, but is easily 1st round I think

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Sean Mannion, QB, Oregon St.: He had a very solid game but I question his ability as a pro prospect. He has a very strange throwing motion I found. It's long developing and allows the DBs to get a good read on where he wants to go before the ball is out of his hand. Still lot's of time to correct this before he is even eligible however. I disagree, at his age he is quite the prospect

EJ Manuel/Landry Jones: Don't know if I would use a pick on either one tbh. Definitely wouldn't take them over a number of other QBs like Geno, Barkley, Pachall, Wilson, Bray, etc... Disagree with you on Manuel, what a game he had, proved a lot
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EJ Manuel/Landry Jones: Don't know if I would use a pick on either one tbh. Definitely wouldn't take them over a number of other QBs like Geno, Barkley, Pachall, Wilson, Bray, etc... Disagree with you on Manuel, what a game he had, proved a lot
Haha I was thinking the same thing but his arm really stood out to me. Admittedly I've only seen a small sample size and I'll need to see more but from what I saw I came away very impressed. Masoli never had the size or the arm Mariota has though and was never a pro prospect.

As for Manuel, I can't argue he didn't have a good game but as a pro prospect I don't see it in him at all. Lot's of mechanics issues.
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put him as a one gapper in a 4 man front. He could play the nose or the 3 tech, but I figure they'd probably put him as a 1 tech shade over the guard and center in the pros. Some defenses interchange their DTs though at the 1 and 3 - like the Browns I know do.
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Week 3:
*Ezekiel Ansah SR DE BYU: What a freak, great size, was supposedly a former big time track athlete. Crazy raw, has very little experience, the upside with his guys is amazing and do not be surprised if he is picked in the 2nd or 3rd round if he keeps playing well this year.


*Chris Thompson SR RB Florida State: Have to give that FSU line a lot of credit. But has come off great from his injury. Gives that Barry Sanders juke move and has big time speed. Catches the ball out of the backfield well, just having a dynamite year.


*Anthony Barr JR OLB UCLA: One of the reasons UCLA leads the nation in sacks, converted TE, is athletic, quick and gives great effort on the field. Quite a position switch made by him and that coaching staff.


*Brandon Carter SOPH WR TCU: Mad two sick catches, is a big time receiver with what appears to be some of the best hands in the nation. Should develop into a great one and is arguably one of the most talented receivers TCU has had in a long time.


*Menelik Watson JR OT Florida State: One of many Florida State offensive lineman where it is like where did they get this guy? Big masher, nice athlete and love his power, must watch as the year goes forward.


*Christian Jones JR ILB Florida State: At times he got beat in coverage, but other times he was right with the great receivers of Clemson down field. So impressive coming from a very large man at middle linebacker. Very rare speed he shows for that position.


*Oday Aboushi SR OT Virginia: Is a very talented player, good athlete, blocks down field and will benefit from a weak offensive tackle class. With a good year could play himself up to be a 1st round pick.


*Zeke Motta SR S Notre Dame: Love this kid, big thick kid, tough and has good speed. Great tackler in the open field, not afraid to make a hit. Seems to know the game well and reacts well. Could be a sleeper safety prospect come draft day, very impressed with him as a senior.


*Brandin Cooks SOPH WR Oregon State: What speed he has a receiver, great quickness, one of the fastest receivers I have seen this year from a dead stop.


*Josue Matias SOPH OG Florida State: Just a mauler, big kid, moves really well and can crush people. Rick Trickett has things going on down there at Florida State, arguably has 4 NFL caliber offensive lineman.


*Eric Kendricks SOPH ILB UCLA: Love his speed, good size and should be a star linebacker in the future.


*Jeff Driskel SOPH QB Florida: Finally showing his ability, moves to the top of his class as a sophomore. Has an absolute gun for an arm and is a great athlete as well, showing why he was so highly recruited.


*EJ Manuel SR QB Florida State: Was hard on him last week but what things can change in a week. So impressed with how he stayed with what the defense gave him and they ripped Clemson apart. Accurate passer, did not make many mistakes and was unstoppable as a runner. If he keeps up this type of play he could climb in a very deep quarterback class of juniors and seniors.


*Geno Smith SR QB West Virginia: Very impressed with his toughness on the field. Was into the game, good on the field leadership. Throws an accurate ball with good touch. Not much to not like about him and he is slowing becoming possible the #2 QB prospect in the up coming draft. But Murray is still right with him.


*Karl Joseph FR S West Virginia: What an athlete, huge kid, big for a freshman and looks like a linebacker yet is a safety. Have to watch him develop, could be a star and hopefully he stays at safety and does not become a linebacker type like Garvin on that defense.


*Perry Jones SR RB Virginia: What a threat out of the backfield, shows such great hands in the passing game. Has always ran the ball hard but now if he keeps up his pass catching out of the backfield he could become a draftable player just because of that catching ability potentially.


*John Gruenschlaeger FR OT Kentucky: Must see this kid, huge, freaking huge kid. Did not see much of him and only noticed him late, but the guy is 6-11 339! Frigging huge, and as a freshman is a must watch to see if he can develop over the years, got to catch Kentucky next time they are on TV, look for #71.


*Daniel Sorensen JR SS BYU: Like his toughness, good tackler, hits hard and finishes his tackles. Is not a star athlete or super fast, but will surprise a lot of people and would not surprise me to see him on an NFL roster one day.


*Joe Vellano SR DT/DE Maryland: Really good at using his hands to get off blocks. Has all the moves, quick and gives good consistent effort. Is almost taylor made for a 3/4 DE position in the NFL. Should be a decent 2nd to 3rd round pick potentially because of that.


*Donte Moncrief SOPH WR Ole Miss: Very impressed him his ability, is like a basketball player going after the ball in the air. Very smooth, good athlete and has nice hands, could be an absolute star down the road.


*D.J. Humphries FR OT Florida: Huge recruit, did not disappoint, still a very small tackle for football standards but is a great athlete. And even being only about 270 still gets good push. In time when he gets stronger watchout! Reminds me a lot of a young Tyron Smith, has that same build.


*Bennett Jackson JR CB Notre Dame: Great corner play, such an upgrade from last year. Very good tackler in the open field, always around the football, just an overall solid player and part of a very improved Irish defense.


*Kareem Martin JR DE UNC: Once again, another large athletic outside pass rushing DE, good size, has really good quickness and is one of a long line of athletic tall pass rushers around the country.


*Braxston Cave SR C Notre Dame: In a weak center class for the upcoming draft, Cave is one of the better ones I have seen and could benefit from that weak class potentially.


*Ryan Shazier SOPH OLB Ohio State: Makes mistakes but is such an a elite and powerful athlete. Really fast, hits hard and once he gains a better understanding of the game and where to be, wow.


*Cornelius Lucas JR OT Kansas State: Another huge lineman, 6-9, giant man and is a very good run blocker. Part of a solid offensive line on Kansas State and a nice prospect to watch out for that is for sure.


*Shaquelle Evans JR WR UCLA: Was brought up already but wow, what a deep threat, where did he come from. Has nice hands, gets good separation and is part of a major offensive turnaround for UCLA.


*Scott Crichton SOPH DE Oregon State: Love his upside, he is a big thick kid, good pass rushing moves, gives consistent pressure. Former freshman standout, now part of a very improved Oregon State defense and has worlds of potential.


*Casey Pachall JR QB TCU: Makes bad choices on the field at times, but just on straight potential he has a ton of it. Big arm, good athlete, great size and height. I hope he comes back for his senior season, he could really become a great player with some more work.


*Ryan Murphy SOPH FS Oregon State: Like his size at safety, knows the game, good tackler, long arms. Is a very interesting player at safety and should only get better in time.


*Connor Hamlett SOPH TE Oregon State: Huge kid, love his giant size, seems to have good hands a good body control. Should kill it in the Pac-12 and really be an outstanding prospect come next season.


*Demarcus Lawrence SOPH DE Boise State: Like how active he is off the edge, a little small but plays larger than he is. Very good athlete and could be a prime OLB in a 3/4 possible and with his age he will only get better.


*Chaz Sutton JR DE South Carolina: Like his potential, is a hell of a pass rusher even though he does not get much playing time. Good off the edge and come next season he could be a real stud once he gets Taylor's spot when he leaves to the NFL.


*Kenny Cain SR LB TCU: Good athlete, undersized but great in coverage and makes plays all over the field. Smart football player, tough and should get a chance in the league because of his production and speed.


*Perry Hills FR QB Maryland: Very impressed with his playing ability, seems like a big tough kid. Good arm, played great in a tough environment at WV. Seems to have a good head on his shoulders, will be interesting to see him develop.


*Jordan Reed JR TE Florida: Big time athlete, can really get down field and make plays. Gives great effort and he is coming along nicely. Could be a moderate middle round draft pick if he comes out but would be best to come back for his senior season I think.


*Storm Woods FR RB Oregon State: Another stud freshman running back, no surprise. Great speed, toughness, good hands and is quick. Should be a star for Oregon State for a long time and will most likely get a shot at the league.


*Quinshad Davis FR WR UNC: Star receiver, have to see more of him. So big and tall and runs so effortlessly. Got to watch more of him play, just seeming him run a route without catching a ball impressive.


*Matt Jones FR RB Florida: Big tough freshman back, no surprise, is a real attitude changer at Florida and should see more time as the season goes on. Very good prospect.


*Markus Wheaton SR WR Oregon State: Love his quickness and ability to make people miss. Does not amaze you with speed but does have it. Good hands, knows the game, decent late round prospect at receiver I think.


*Jonotthan Harrison JR C Florida: Good thick kid, moves well, smart, looks the part. Should be a very solid center come his senior year.


*Brett Hundley FR QB UCLA: Really impressed with his arm, kid has a gun and throws a great deep ball. Very good athlete as well, really impressed with those abilities, now can he be consistent and perform when everyone knows about him in the future.


*Michael Philipp JR OT Oregon State: Liked him awhile ago, moved to tackle at Oregon State which makes him an even better prospect. Can really play both positions, could move back to OG in the pros. But come next year he could be a really solid OL prospect, highly rated.


*A.J. Francis SR DT Maryland: Productive player, kind of amazed buy that, can really get into the backfield. Good motor on him and a good pass rusher, and at that size that is something special. Could be an outstanding pickup possibly in rounds 3-5.


*D.J. Welch SOPH OLB Oregon State: Former track athlete, big tall kid, clearly has speed. And at linebacker that is something rare, to have his conditioning. Could be a star in that system at Oregon State and is a must watch in the future.


*Sean Mannion SOPH QB Oregon State: Love his size, good arm, nice ability and good leader. Is going to add a big bump to the sophomore quarterback class, he has potential that is for sure.


*Branden Oliver JR RB Buffalo: Great quickness, tough, low to the ground and hard to bring down. Has injury issues though, but if he can stay healthy he has worlds of potential and could be a huge sleeper prospect. Have to watch him play more though.


*Dri Archer JR RB/WR Kent State: Great quickness, good speed, decent playmaker. If he keeps it up he could be one to keep and eye on, had a great game against Buffalo.




Disappointed:
Xavier Sua-Filo SOPH OT/OG UCLA: Very disappointed in how he looks, his upper body seems a little weak and hopefully he can fill it out. Was moved to guard for injuries and did not play well, might have been cause for his struggles at times. But basically I expected him to be in better shape than he is, and still has the lower body stoutness but has a ways to go to get back where he was originally before his mission.

Dorial Green-Beckham FR WR Missouri: For such a big time recruit, #1 player in the country. Pretty lack luster so far, not very impressive, give him time though but is a surprise he cannot be effective yet in a pass happy offense. Still early though and will give him time.
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put him as a one gapper in a 4 man front. He could play the nose or the 3 tech, but I figure they'd probably put him as a 1 tech shade over the guard and center in the pros. Some defenses interchange their DTs though at the 1 and 3 - like the Browns I know do.
I agree. (Not that he has to be limited to just this role because as you said, some teams don't have a set 1 and 3) I think he could be special if he was able to get in that 315-320lb 3-tech. I know he allegedly is around 320 now but I doubt he's a pound under 330.
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