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Old 09-23-2012, 03:01 PM    (permalink
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Default Young Guns Pt. 2: Luck, RG3, Newton, Locker, Dalton, Ponder, Gabbert

Obviously Luck, RG3, and Newton will get all the votes here, but we should get a thread to talk about this next generation of young quarterbacks. Think we got some good ones in this bunch.
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how about this Brandon Weeden kid? Browns look set for a long time.
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Is Shaun Hill an option. Otherwise, give me Luck.
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How is Ponder ahead of Newton?Hell of any of those guys.
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How is Ponder ahead of Newton?Hell of any of those guys.
I'll back up any talk on Cam. Ponder is actually an NFL QB running an NFL offense. Newton isn't successful unless he's running it 70-80 yards out of that stupid Read-Option offense.

If he can be successful as a passer, then he can be up there. But right now, defenses are figuring out how to isolate and he's not responding.
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How in God's green earth is Locker last? BEHIND GABBERT!!!

That right there voids your entire list.
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How in God's green earth is Locker last? BEHIND GABBERT!!!

That right there voids your entire list.
ARE YOU SERIOUS? Have you not seen Locker play? Gabbert has shown much more than Locker.
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ARE YOU SERIOUS? Have you not seen Locker play? Gabbert has shown much more than Locker.
In what world?? Locker shows plenty of flashes of being good.

Ponder over Newton is another head scratcher. Think you getting the players confused.
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I'll back up any talk on Cam. Ponder is actually an NFL QB running an NFL offense. Newton isn't successful unless he's running it 70-80 yards out of that stupid Read-Option offense.

If he can be successful as a passer, then he can be up there. But right now, defenses are figuring out how to isolate and he's not responding.
I don't even know why I asked you.
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I'll back up any talk on Cam. Ponder is actually an NFL QB running an NFL offense. Newton isn't successful unless he's running it 70-80 yards out of that stupid Read-Option offense.

If he can be successful as a passer, then he can be up there. But right now, defenses are figuring out how to isolate and he's not responding.
Newton's run for 70 yards exactly once in his NFL career
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He had Josh Freeman high in the last one too. You can't really go by his list.
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I'll back up any talk on Cam. Ponder is actually an NFL QB running an NFL offense. Newton isn't successful unless he's running it 70-80 yards out of that stupid Read-Option offense.

If he can be successful as a passer, then he can be up there. But right now, defenses are figuring out how to isolate and he's not responding.
If you actually watch Washington this year they are pretty much running the same offense for RG3 that Cam is running in Carolina, but RG3 some how is better?
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3. Cam Newton
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ARE YOU SERIOUS? Have you not seen Locker play? Gabbert has shown much more than Locker.
In games where they have had significant playing time (at least 10 pass attempts), these are their averages:

Gabbert: 15/30, 50.4 cmp%, 164 yds, 1 td, 0 int, 68.18 rate, 5.4 y/a
Locker: 16/28, 59.5 cmp%, 218 yds, 1 td, 0 int, 95.11 rate, 7.8 y/a

And to break down their touchdowns and interceptions further:

Gabbert: 3.29 TD%, 2.26 INT%
Locker: 4.76 TD%, 1.19 INT%

Wanna take that statement back?
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ding ding ding ding we have a winner!!
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If you actually watch Washington this year they are pretty much running the same offense for RG3 that Cam is running in Carolina, but RG3 some how is better?
Cam isn't responding to what the Defenses are doing and he's being shut down.

Haven't seen RG III exposed yet, plus RG III was a more accurate passer coming out as a prospect.
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He had Josh Freeman high in the last one too. You can't really go by his list.
I think everyone had him on there last after 2010. Usually putting up elite numbers aren't a fluke. Guess I was wrong, but not the only one.
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1. Andrew Luck
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7. Blaine Gabbert
Explain to me what RG3 and Luck have done better than Newton.Hell how are they better than Dalton?
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Explain to me what RG3 and Luck have done better than Newton.
It's more predicting how they will end up than anything. If you don't think Luck and RGIII have tons of potential you're blind. It was also extremely close between Newton and RGIII for the #2 spot, they might be interchangeable to me.
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Because he is a Ginger?
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No rebuttal about the Locker/Gabbert assertion?
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I heard that Sylvester Stallone wrote The Expendables with The Alex in mind. He had to keep it realistic though and split The Alex's abilities into multiple characters. Stallone thought that critics would pan it for being too far-fetched if he just had one character effing everyone up.
The end. Cut to black. Audience goes ****ing ape****.
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It's more predicting how they will end up than anything. If you don't think Luck and RGIII have tons of potential you're blind. It was also extremely close between Newton and RGIII for the #2 spot, they might be interchangeable to me.
If your are talking about Potential than Newton has more potential than both of them.Locker has more potential than Luck and RG3. I didn't say didn't have potential, I said how are they better.
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