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Old 10-03-2012, 07:37 PM    (permalink
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1st round Glenn Dorsey DT/DE
He wasn't drafted as a DE/DT. He was drafted as a 43 under tackle, which is part of the reason why he was so bad in KC for a pick that high.
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Dorsey is okay for a 3-4 DE but he's clearly not being used correctly. I don't even think it matters atm because he's in the final year of his contract and will probably not be re-signed.
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Basically, the Chiefs are a more talented version of the Jaguars.

Race you to Geno and a new regime.
NO, you have your franchise QB! Damnit YFS, stop hoggin all the QBs!
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Worst of them though is Poe, that was a huge reach but who knows maybe he will turn out ok.
Actually, and I have been one of the biggest critics of the Poe selection, but he hasn't looked that bad so far. Hasn't made many big plays yet, but I don't think I've seen him blown off the ball at all and I see him double teamed frequently. Every once in a while he flashes that athleticism from the Combine. I'm much higher on him now than I ever was on Tyson Jackson.

I'd be ok with the Chiefs taking Jarvis Jones. This is a terrible QB year, Geno Smith is the best one it looks like. I would just as soon talk to San Francisco or Arizona about Kaepernick/Skelton for a 3rd or 4th round pick than invest a high first round pick on a QB who will bust.
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Actually, and I have been one of the biggest critics of the Poe selection, but he hasn't looked that bad so far. Hasn't made many big plays yet, but I don't think I've seen him blown off the ball at all and I see him double teamed frequently. Every once in a while he flashes that athleticism from the Combine. I'm much higher on him now than I ever was on Tyson Jackson.

I'd be ok with the Chiefs taking Jarvis Jones. This is a terrible QB year, Geno Smith is the best one it looks like. I would just as soon talk to San Francisco or Arizona about Kaepernick/Skelton for a 3rd or 4th round pick than invest a high first round pick on a QB who will bust.
Ugh Village, don't get in that mindset. We can't go through another year like the last three or four. We NEED a QB. And trading for Kaepernick or Skelton is just the same ****, different year. I'm sick of it. Tyler Wilson, Matt Barkley, Geno Smith.. one of those needs to be in KC red next year, period. I'm sick of doing things the same way and seeing no new results. So god damn sick of it.
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Hey...I like Kaep. I think he'll be pretty good.
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No to Kaepernick!!!! NOOO!!!! Tired of this organization getting backup QB's from other teams!

Draft someone in the first round. I think Geno, Wilson or even Murray would work out.

The team is a quality QB and HC away from being a perennial playoff contender. If the team can make Matt freaking Cassel look good, than a rookie QB should have no problem.
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Who ever is in charge of that 3/4 defense and player personnel, needs to stop sucking. Here are the picks they have spent over a few years on that 3/4 defense. Some were ok and most are all still around. But they keep seeming to fill needs in the defense and it is not working all that great. Would have been very interesting if Glenn Dorsey was put in a 4/3 defense, because he clearly is not a great 3/4 DE at all. The fit makes sense for guys like Bailey, Powe and Jackson. Worst of them though is Poe, that was a huge reach but who knows maybe he will turn out ok.


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1st round Donatri Poe NT

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2nd round Justin Houston OLB, Allen Bailey DE
6th round Jerrell Powe NT


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2nd round Alex Magee DT

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1st round Glenn Dorsey DT/DE

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2nd round Turk McBride DE
3rd round Tank Tyler DT

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Chiefs take a quarterback though regardless, clearly not even a question to even ask anymore.


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He wasn't drafted as a DE/DT. He was drafted as a 43 under tackle, which is part of the reason why he was so bad in KC for a pick that high.
and he was used as an 43 NT by Gunther his rookie year.
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Race you to Geno and a new regime.
You and I both know that any team you root for a team is doomed to not have a functioning QB.
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There is no way the Chiefs take another NT when QB is arguably the biggest need for this team.
My brother in Red and Gold, there is no "arguably" about it. QB IS the biggest need on this team. True, not the only need. But this organization has spent high draft picks on just about every position on the field. It's time for them to go QB.

And if Pioli (assuming he's still here) even THINKS about taking another defensive lineman in the first round...oh man I'm going to flip $h!t.

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Actually, and I have been one of the biggest critics of the Poe selection, but he hasn't looked that bad so far. Hasn't made many big plays yet, but I don't think I've seen him blown off the ball at all and I see him double teamed frequently. Every once in a while he flashes that athleticism from the Combine. I'm much higher on him now than I ever was on Tyson Jackson.

I'd be ok with the Chiefs taking Jarvis Jones. This is a terrible QB year, Geno Smith is the best one it looks like. I would just as soon talk to San Francisco or Arizona about Kaepernick/Skelton for a 3rd or 4th round pick than invest a high first round pick on a QB who will bust.
VW, I have to disagree with your last sentence there. This organization has been doing that forever. Trying to get backups from other teams to come here and start: Cassel, Trent, Grbac, Bono...just to name a few.

That CANNOT go on. I know it's scary to spend a 1st on a QB. It's hard to find that guy. In fact, I'm of the opinion that finding starting pitching and a true starting QB are the hardest things to find in sports. But you're never going to find it if you don't take a legitimate change at it. We have to find a true, long term solution to that spot. We can't keep trying to do what hasn't worked hoping for different results. 30 years is far too long, IMO, to go without spending a first on QB. True, chances are whoever we'd pick in the first will bust. But, we won't know until we try. We have zero chance of finding that guy if we don't even try.
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Geno Smith please.
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There is no way the Chiefs aren't the worst team in the NFL now. No way.
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Jacksonville says bring it.
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Hey our QB's are crappier then your's so IT'S ON!!!
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I would put money on the Jags beating the Chiefs. A lot of money. Gabbert is better than any QB on our roster and MJD would destroy this defense. Hell, we'd make Blackmon look good too.

This is the worst Chiefs team I've ever seen.
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I would put money on the Jags beating the Chiefs. A lot of money. Gabbert is better than any QB on our roster and MJD would destroy this defense. Hell, we'd make Blackmon look good too.

This is the worst Chiefs team I've ever seen.
This Chiefs team makes me miss the Herm Edwards coached Chiefs teams...yes it's gotten that bad
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Wouldn't get too excited about the Chiefs being #1 overall, the Jaguars most definitely could, haha.
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Would you guys take Tyler Wilson?
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Hey our QB's are crappier then your's so IT'S ON!!!
Cassell > Gabbert for sure.
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Would you guys take Tyler Wilson?
Over Geno? I don't know. I like Tyler Wilson a lot but I need to see more of him this season.

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Cassell > Gabbert for sure.
No, it is not for sure. In fact, it's straight up false. Cassel has more turnovers than most teams. He has 14 himself. 14 turnovers. I would take Gabbert over Cassel in a heartbeat.
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Over Geno? I don't know. I like Tyler Wilson a lot but I need to see more of him this season.



No, it is not for sure. In fact, it's straight up false. Cassel has more turnovers than most teams. He has 14 himself. 14 turnovers. I would take Gabbert over Cassel in a heartbeat.
Nah, I'm talking if you guys were in a position where Barkley and Smith were taken already
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Nah, I'm talking if you guys were in a position where Barkley and Smith were taken already
I'd take Wilson over Barkley for sure. Don't know about Smith.
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