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Old 10-05-2012, 01:07 AM    (permalink
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17 sacks in 2 games is beyond terrible. Might as well use tackling dummies instead of an OL...might be just as effective and you save money.
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Fitz was Fitz, Kolb got sacked 40 times, Bradford is terrible, Ru got knocked out with a concussion or something, Amendola broke his collar bone

To an untrained eye. Little time to throw and bad receivers who dropped 4-5 balls and a couple of wrong routes.
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To an untrained eye. Little time to throw and bad receivers who dropped 4-5 balls and a couple of wrong routes.
More excuses. Give him those 4-5 more completions and you still barely get over 50% on the night.

It's not like he's just missing. Both QBs in tonight's game were so far off it wasn't even funny. Passes no where near on target even on the plays where they did get a little time to throw....

Not a good night by either team or either starting QB.
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More excuses. Give him those 4-5 more completions and you still barely get over 50% on the night.

It's not like he's just missing. Both QBs in tonight's game were so far off it wasn't even funny. Passes no where near on target even on the plays where they did get a little time to throw....

Not a good night by either team or either starting QB.
Show me 5 passes that were "so far off" by Sam in tonights game.
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Rams wr's normally get very little separation, so Bradford is usually trying to fit balls in tight windows. He also throws a lot of balls away because of the pressure and nobody is open. Stats are deceiving.
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Rams wr's normally get very little separation, so Bradford is usually trying to fit balls in tight windows. He also throws a lot of balls away because of the pressure and nobody is open. Stats are deceiving.
I saw two or three "bad" throws.

One bad throw to Austin Pettis
One drop by Lance Kendricks
Two throws were in Amendola's hands that 99/100 times he catches
One throw to Givens where he slipped.
One throw to Givens where he gave up on the route
One interception by Peterson.
One tip by Calais at the line.
One where Amendola ran the wrong route

That's nine of his fourteen incomplete passes right there. 5 of the 9 could of and should of been completed. And one he couldn't really do anything about, just a nice play by Campbell.
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So will someone throw a starters contract at Steven Jackson or will he be reduced to a complimentary role?

I think he has more left in the tank than when Edge left Indy and LT left the Chargers but we all know how GMs value older RBs.
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Both the Cards and the Rams have two of the better defenses in the league.
And Bradford looked mighty clutch with that second TD pass.

I wouldn't expect someone like Sam to be productive once his top WR went out.
It's like he's got a Vernon Davis or Gronk to bail him out.

Dude like Sam is a certain type of QB which isn't a bad kind to be; give him outstanding protection and legit playmakers at WR and he can do damage.
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I know it's only five games in but I don't regret having Janoris Jenkins as my highest rated defensive player in this draft.
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he got burnt repeatedly in the 1st half, Kolb just failed to complete 3 or 4 easy TD throws
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It's excuses when you're a highly reactive person that doesn't understand the game of football. It's a reality when you actually do comprehend things and understand that everything isn't so black and white like you want it to be. i understand why people are this way and its because most of them have never played this game before in their entire life, and even if they did I doubt they were ever even remotely successful at it.

I have no reasons to make an 'excuse' for Sam Bradford but the guy has absolutely nothing around him aside from SJax(who is irrelevant when wayne hunter is your LT anyway) and Danny Amendola. Sure, they have some young talent but without an OL a pocket passer is simply not going to succeed, and I can't figure for the life of me why anyone expects such. Put the guy in Cincinnati for example, and I think he does very well for himself.

Even Kolb has some tools that even an average OL could make look decent, but when your guys are getting beat around the edge on nearly every single play it's hard to discern that for an average fan. The guy has solid arm strength and decent accuracy, which can thrive in today's game which is so reliant on the passing aspect. When your OL makes Chicago's look better by comparison, you have a serious problem and IDC who the QB is. Not to mention the fact that there isn't a single WR(or TE for that matter) that deserves any respect from any defense in the NFL outside of Larry Fitz.
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he got burnt repeatedly in the 1st half, Kolb just failed to complete 3 or 4 easy TD throws
He bit on double moves and still showed some really impressive recoveryability after he fact. Rookie CBs gon' bite. You should know that from PP. By years end, Janoris will be knocking on the top 5 cb door.
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Two throws were in Amendola's hands that 99/100 times he catches
Those both would have been incredibly difficult highlight reel type grabs. He almost had them both, but you can't really fault him for missing those

Sucks he is hurt though. I started him in fantasy last night too, those two drops would have probably added up to like 50 or 60 more yards. Always like Danny hope he can bounce back, good story behind him.
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Sanchez says he doesn't feel threatened to lose his job. If I were him, I wouldn't either because his coach will never bench him. Not that he is sailing smoothly now, but if Sanchez gets benched I think it will completely ruin him mentally. They have stuck with him through so much, if he gets benched even he will know how awful he is. Don't know if it will happen, I'm just saying if...
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Brian Schottenheimer's fault tho.
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So there not in place if their missing an entire OL,a WR and RB.Plus I think Kendricks but w/e.
They need to add two really good OL and the line will be decent. They might need to add a WR but they might not if their young guys develop well, and a big RB isn't a big deal, that something a late round pick/UDFA can fill with Richardson and Pead to fill most of the RB duties. That's 4 needs, of which none is QB. You're looking at most 3 first two day picks, of which they have a **** load, to have a good offense with a defense already very strong along the DL and at corner.
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They need to add two really good OL and the line will be decent. They might need to add a WR but they might not if their young guys develop well, and a big RB isn't a big deal, that something a late round pick/UDFA can fill with Richardson and Pead to fill most of the RB duties. That's 4 needs, of which none is QB. You're looking at most 3 first two day picks, of which they have a **** load, to have a good offense with a defense already very strong along the DL and at corner.

That's all they really lack. Their D is legit. If Bradford had a little more time, I think the WR's would benefit greatly. Both their #1's in 2013 should be spent on the o-line. Draft the best LT, then move Saffold to RT. Hunter and Richardson would be very good for depth. Hunter is playing really well too. The Rams are close to becoming a force.
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That's all they really lack. Their D is legit. If Bradford had a little more time, I think the WR's would benefit greatly. Both their #1's in 2013 should be spent on the o-line. Draft the best LT, then move Saffold to RT. Hunter and Richardson would be very good for depth. Hunter is playing really well too. bThe Rams are close to becoming a force.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves...

The Rams have promise. But there are tons of question marks on offense and it needs to come together fast. The defense is legit.

The offense is anemic.
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Let's not get ahead of ourselves...

The Rams have promise. But there are tons of question marks on offense and it needs to come together fast. The defense is legit.

The offense is anemic.

2 olineman and a legit #1 WR would go a long way. Give Bradford time and he is deadly. He's under pressure most plays.
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2 olineman and a legit #1 WR would go a long way. Give Bradford time and he is deadly. He's under pressure most plays.
Deadly? Let's try to get him consistent first. And that's coming from a big Bradford fan.

And 2 OL and a legit #1 isn't something you just get in 1 offseason. You make it sound like they can just go to the player tree and pluck those 3 pieces out and be good to go.
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NFC Best is a perfect 9-0 at home this year.
And i would say conservatively speaking 4 of the top 6 or 7 defenses in football.

As for the Sam Bradford talk i think we've seen what he could do at Oklahoma with talent around him so he'll be more than good enough to get them to the playoffs in a year or two. With 4 first round picks in the next two drafts they're probably a lot close than some of the better known teams out there.
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