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Old 10-05-2012, 05:38 PM    (permalink) 
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And coming into the season my eyes were on Robert Woods

pshhhhhhhhhhhhh I want one of em in Oakland along with Bark

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Yeah, its kind of unfair to look down on Robert this year. Hes still very good, its just that Lee is better...flat out. Thats not his fault haha.
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I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.
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If Manziel has a big game against LSU he deserves to be in the conversation RS Freshman or not
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This stage in the season it is Geno by a good amount. I am not sure if this continues in Big12 play but at the same time not much defense is played in that conference.

Marquise Lee has had a dominant season but too hard for wideouts.
No traditional WR will win the Heisman anytime soon. For a "WR" to win it, it would have to be someone like Percy Harvin.
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Old 10-16-2012, 06:25 PM    (permalink) 
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Yeah, its kind of unfair to look down on Robert this year. Hes still very good, its just that Lee is better...flat out. Thats not his fault haha.
I think the fact that Lee is quite a bit better should show that Robert Woods is not a top 10 WR. He's a first rounder (top 25, maybe top 40), but not the kind of guy GMs want in the top 10.
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If Manziel has a big game against LSU he deserves to be in the conversation RS Freshman or not
We (A&M) are seriously flawed as a team.

LSU is going to show us what a top tier team looks like.
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Jeez, who is this guy...
a homer who didn't have the cajones to actually pick him to win the heisman. :P

i'm glad someone brought up manziel. can't think of a more deserving non-geno candidate at this point.
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You nailed that one. Without a doubt Fitzgerald was the best player in the country back when Jason White won his, but he still got screwed. Shouldnt have even been a question IMO. Lee can continue to put up huge numbers but it wont do anything more than get him a seat in NY.
That was such a farce. I'm still salty Fitzy didn't win it. He had a touchdown catch 18 straight games.
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Gotta give the nod to Manti Te'o right now.
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a homer who didn't have the cajones to actually pick him to win the heisman. :P

i'm glad someone brought up manziel. can't think of a more deserving non-geno candidate at this point.
All props go to Brent - pretty sure he was the first person to really talk about Manziel - i just love watching the guy - in terms of excitement he is a much more dynamic player than Geno Smith
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If Manziel has a big game against LSU he deserves to be in the conversation RS Freshman or not
Completely agreed. If Manziel can keep winning games in the SEC, especially against the likes of LSU he absolutely has to be considered a candidate.
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You nailed that one. Without a doubt Fitzgerald was the best player in the country back when Jason White won his, but he still got screwed. Shouldnt have even been a question IMO. Lee can continue to put up huge numbers but it wont do anything more than get him a seat in NY.
this can be said for so many heismen, its ingram shouldnt have won, bradford was iffy, same for troy smith, matt leinart and plenty of other guys
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Gotta give the nod to Manti Te'o right now.
Not even the best defensive player on his team or the best linebacker in the country, but sure, I guess.
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this can be said for so many heismen, its ingram shouldnt have won, bradford was iffy, same for troy smith, matt leinart and plenty of other guys
Troy Smith shouldn't have won? Why not? And why not for Leinart?
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cause they didn't turn out to be good pros.
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Not even the best defensive player on his team or the best linebacker in the country, but sure, I guess.
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Eric Crouch had no business winning it in 2001, he and Jason White are probably the least deserving winners since Gino Toretta, who is easily the most undeserving winner of all-time.
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Eric Crouch had no business winning it in 2001, he and Jason White are probably the least deserving winners since Gino Toretta, who is easily the most undeserving winner of all-time.
Throw Mark Ingram on that list.
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Throw Mark Ingram on that list.
I cannot believe he is the only player from Alabama to ever win the Heisman. Who was more deserving in 2009?
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I cannot believe he is the only player from Alabama to ever win the Heisman. Who was more deserving in 2009?
Gerhart was a better running back.
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Let's not pretend the TT loss takes Geno's hands off of it, but another L will.
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Gerhart was a better running back.
Suh was the most deserving that year. Most dominating year by a defensive player you can ask for.
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Suh was the most deserving that year. Most dominating year by a defensive player you can ask for.
Suh was a beast...Gerhart was better than Ingram considering they played the same position, SEC bias had a role in the 2009 Heisman vote for sure.
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Suh was never going to win after Nebraska blew it vs Texas, even though he was downright dominant in that game.
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Let's not pretend the TT loss takes Geno's hands off of it, but another L will.
I want Geno to lose for financial reasons, but he could lose three games and his stats will still give him the award.

If he has 40ish TDs and less than 3 interceptions... I mean come on.

And that's exactly what he's going to have.

If has ZERO picks? It's over.

This is a case in which the stats are just too historic.
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