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Old 10-08-2012, 09:04 PM    (permalink
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Bad talent initially, not the first option, and bad coaching. If Hibbert were on the Lakers ppl would talk about him like they talk about Bynum. And he's truly a unselfish player. The guy passes up a lot of shots to swing the ball to open teammates. Remember, KAJ got ahold of Bynum as a pup and helped mold him. If Hibbert would have gotten that opportunity I think he'd be even better.
Shot in the dark here, but by any chance are you a Pacers fan?
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Dirk is a finesse player. Finesse players are soft. Just because he got a ring doesn't change any of that.

Just proves you guys don't know **** about basketball.
Kevin Garnett is a finesse player, but he is far from soft.

Also, JJ is slowing down. Their so called bench is made up of potential.

Their best 4 are Williams, JJ, Wallace, and Lopez. If this was 2 years ago, it could work.
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What's with the Nets hype? Williams is a beast. Other than him Johson is on the decline, Wallace is on the decline, Kris is alright, and Loopz sucks
wat. I'm sure out of those, you compliment Hump, who is a black hole offensively. Bropez is an incredibly gifted scorer inside. He can't rebound or play D and is over-paid, we get it. But he'll be putting up 20/8 and I'll live with it.

JJ and Wallace are just fine. Wallace was awesome for us defensively and on the glass his time here. He doesn't have the explosion on O he used to have (declined athleticsm and driving ability) but he's the 4th or 5th option on O. JJ will be fine. D-Will is gonna put up ridiculous numbers with having real NBA players around him.

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someone's mad they didn't get DWill
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Kevin Garnett is a finesse player, but he is far from soft.

Also, JJ is slowing down. Their so called bench is made up of potential.

Their best 4 are Williams, JJ, Wallace, and Lopez. If this was 2 years ago, it could work.
I didn't watch any JJ, but he could be slowing down, but not at some rapid decline. They're a good team that work off each others strengths with the main question mark being will D-Will and JJ work together (which I believe they will)

the bench is going to be boom or bust. Watson is extremely solid as our backup PG. MarShon rules, but is virtually all potential. Childress is meh. Evans gets boards, Blatche has upside and Teletovic is a question mark on how he'll adapt. That 2nd unit will run A LOT, and could be fun to watch with MarShon and Childress running the wings and Teletovic stretching the floor
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Blatche sucks balls. Don't expect anything from him other than a warm bench seat.
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Blatche sucks balls. Don't expect anything from him other than a warm bench seat.
I only want him to be tall and not **** everything up while he's on the court. Just rebound and play D. He's our backup center, which is scary
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I only want him to be tall and not **** everything up while he's on the court. Just rebound and play D. He's our backup center, which is scary
See, this is why I referred to him as a question mark. There is a very good chance this will happen both on and off the court.
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I only want him to be tall and not **** everything up while he's on the court. Just rebound and play D. He's our backup center, which is scary
Andray Blatche will not even attempt to play D.
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STOP BEING BUZZKILLS

I just hope he's not worse than Johan Petro. He can't be...right?
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Homer Alert

Andrea Brags will be considered a top 5 PF in the game after this season. Added 15 pounds of muscle and playing next to Val should hide what he lack at and improve his offrnsive abilities
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na in all honesty I don't find JJ that great of a player and that being a reason for Dwill staying was funny to me.
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When was Hibbert considered good offensively?
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He is good offensively. Like, really good. He's just not the best offensive center in the league like someone here is claiming he is.
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When was Hibbert considered good offensively?
When was he not considered good offensively? Some ppl look at stats to tell them how good a player is. I watch the player and his game. Hibbert has every thing in his arsenal every other big you think is good has, with a legit mid-range jumper. And he's the best passing 5 in the league. Blame the Pacers because they to run their offense through Granger instead of Hibbert as to why he's stats don't measure up. They only knock on Hibbert I can see is his strength and lack of athleticism. Other than that, he is a highly skilled player playing on a team that believes he's the 3rd option on most plays.
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He is good offensively. Like, really good. He's just not the best offensive center in the league like someone here is claiming he is.
We all have opinions. I think if more ppl truly watched what he does, night in and night out, they would see he's better than most give him credit for.
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na in all honesty I don't find JJ that great of a player and that being a reason for Dwill staying was funny to me.
seriously? And well, him, Bropez and Wallace is better than just Dirk. But I'm gonna take D-Will's opinion on JJ on this one
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We all have opinions. I think if more ppl truly watched what he does, night in and night out, they would see he's better than most give him credit for.
And you sound like his biggest fan, so i'm not sure how objective you're being. And the "you don't watch him as much as i do" argument is really old and stupid.

He got run out of the gym by the Heat, his lack of athleticism is a huge negative.
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And you sound like his biggest fan, so i'm not sure how objective you're being. And the "you don't watch him as much as i do" argument is really old and stupid.

He got run out of the gym by the Heat, his lack of athleticism is a huge negative.
And when he was he was the focal point of the offense, they dominated the Heat. The Heat run everybody out of the gym, that's supposed to be a negative? They're a team built on athleticism.

The question was who's the best center offensively. Hibbert is my answer. If you said who's the best overall, or the best athletically, or the best defensively, my answer would be different.
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Hibbert is the wrong answer. Sorry, assuming health, it's Bynum and it isn't close. Bynum has had absolutely dominant stretches where he is completely unplayable. Hibbbert can't come close to the level of dominance Bynum has shown.
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Offensive skill doesn't automatically equal dominance. Pau was the most skilled center for awhile there and he was never dominant. Bynum has the flashes because he has a good combination of skill, size, strength, and athleticism. But if were talking just offensive skill as a center. I'm talking footwork, post moves, IQ, ability to score from different spots on the floor, passing, ability to finish with either hand, Hibbert is the answer. But because Bynum has the strength and athleticism that Hibbert lacks, along with a few of those skills, he looks much more 'dominant' at times. So therefore, most think its because he's highly skilled.
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