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Old 10-08-2012, 04:58 PM    (permalink
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Why couldn't the Giants trade up for Watt like I wanted?
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Why couldn't the Giants trade up for Watt like I wanted?
because prince fell right to us. I did entertain that idea too, but prince is very good right now, im not gunna complain.
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Eh I am not worried. With our luck he'd either be hurt or ineffective in our scheme. I am more envious of that system and how solid they are on defense. Instead we have Perry freaking Fewell and this garbage of a system.
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Why couldn't the Giants trade up for Watt like I wanted?
You know, I liked Watt, but I wasn't the biggest fan of his. Then the combine came around and he blew me away, but at that point in the draft I was already set on some other guys and I knew he was way out of our range so I was just hoping at that point that Dallas wouldn't get him bc I didn't want to face him twice a season.

But maaaaaaaaaan, I know hindsight is 20/20, but can you imagnie a DL of JPP and Watt? Holy crap. He's much better than I ever imagined. He's a complete beast. He might be the only DLmen in the entire league I might want over JPP. Maaaybe.

But to be fair, if Prince keeps playing the way he's playing, we got a steal at 19.

Prince looks pretty damn good as long as he stays healthy. And a CB of that caliber is never something to sneeze on.
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I'm very happy with Prince but yeah JPP/Watt would be insane. Watt was pretty much a top 3 player on my board that year so it's not really hindsight.

Prince is developing quickly and I'm very glad we have him.
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Its hindsight for me. I liked Watt and thought he'd be good, but I didn't know he'd be THIS good.
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Well yeah you never really expect a 2nd year player to the best at his position. No one ever sees that coming. We went through the same thing with JPP last year.
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While Watt would be insane, I'm too happy about Prince and Watt being this good was so unpredictable, to really care. If Prince stays healthy we won't miss Webster if he really is slowing down. With Holsey also in the mix our CBs are solidly set up for the coming vet purge. We're ****** at safety if we have to replace Rolle or Kenny, but I feel good about where we're at at Corner. Probably pick another one on day one or two this year a la TT or Ross, hopefully sans the exploding knees and crippling case of old, respectively.

But our lines need a boost, it's about time to spend another high pick or big money on an OL to make the running game reliable again, plus our DL needs help, it would be nice to have a DT that can hold up against the run and penetrate for once.
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Quietly our OL has been very good without Diehl. We might be set there.
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Eh, the pass pro has been solid which is all Eli needs, but there's just no way we're going to be opening holes consistently against the better front 7s in the playoffs. We could be set there if we add one high impact rookie, almost regardless of what position he plays, we just need someone out there who'll really boss DL, the way Snee used to, so that the other guys' solidness and chemistry can succeed.
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Makes you wonder if Diehl was the problem.

To be fair, the only real test our OL faced this year was Philly, and they didn't look good vs Philly. Cleveland, Carolina, Tampa, none of them have great edge rushers.
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Philly didnt even sack Eli I'd say that's good.
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Philly didnt even sack Eli I'd say that's good.
That was more on Eli than the OL, but I'll agree that they haven't been as terrible as last year and are doing enough for Eli to make it work. Still want an ox to make our running game a dependable weapon again
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Yeah Eli got the ball out fast. He was harassed all night without getting sacked. Philly actually doesn't have a ton of sacks this year.
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Yeah they're having trouble with the pass rush like us. Are total sacks down this year across the NFL?
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Not for most teams that get to play the cardinals...
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Haha, Beatty says suck it! He's played pretty solid. Much better than I had anticipated.
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I'm still cautious. We all know he still sucks, its just a matter of when is it gonna come out again.
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Possibly haha. I'm not convinced either just yet. For him I really think a lot of it might have just been not practicing and playing due to injury. As you've said in the past BBD, gaining proficiency as an offensive linemen is mostly about repetition and practice. A lot of his issues were just mistakes of not knowing who to pick up, which comes with practice and playing time. He's a smart guy and he has great athleticism and physical ability so that was never really a question.

I'm hoping he has figured out. It would make the draft MUCH easier to draft for. Rather than worrying about OL in the first round or two, we can put it back a bit if there are no studs on the board when we pick.

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Nothing is wrong with him. More double teams, more chipping and the other guys aren't doing **** so they keep their focus on JPP. He's been great in the run game and the sacks will come.
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Yeah he's been doing well, it just hasn't resulted in sacks because they essentially just double/triple team him because A) we don't know how to blitz properly and free him up, B) Osi, Tuck, and everyone else along the D-Line has been terrible at getting pressure.
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