2012 Mid-Season Forum Mock Discussion

[proshoota25]

too much info but ur trade offer for jenkins was redic lol

[fenikz]

lol that's worse than when i traded Doucet for a 3rd

[Matthew Jones]

Originally Posted by D-Unit

Pats fans might be feeling ok if NE lands Mike Jenkins.

You couldn't pay me to take Mike Jenkins. I'll give you #27 for your second and third (45 and 76). 680 points on my end, 660 on yours.

[D-Unit]

Originally Posted by Matthew Jones

You couldn't pay me to take Mike Jenkins. I'll give you #27 for your second and third (45 and 76). 680 points on my end, 660 on yours.

Of course you would. The value of player at 27 is basically the same at 45 in this draft. I'll applaud you if you get a 2nd and 3rd rounder for that late 1st.

BTW, that trade chart is so out of date it ain't even funny.

[Matthew Jones]

Originally Posted by D-Unit

Of course you would. The value of player at 27 is basically the same at 45 in this draft. I'll applaud you if you get a 2nd and 3rd rounder for that late 1st.

BTW, that trade chart is so out of date it ain't even funny.

The trade value chart is still the standard for making trades. If anything, the higher picks have increased in value due to the rookie pay scale, because there is less risk in drafting a player high relative to previous years. The most analogous trade to this one from history would be:

46, 54, 94, 213 = 29, 112

Other examples:

25 = 28, 163, 235
25 = 32, 96, 129
25 = 43, 70, 114
25 = 76, next 1st, next 4th
26 = 36, 87, 159
26 = 42, 73
26, 162 = 41, 73, 83
27 = 39, 70, 142
27, 159 = 40, 71, 103, 138
28 = 110, next 1st
28 = 31, 127
28 = 41, 63

Notice that all of those trades involve a pick in the 30s or 40s and usually one in the 60-80 range as well.

[D-Unit]

Originally Posted by Matthew Jones

The trade value chart is still the standard for making trades. If anything, the higher picks have increased in value due to the rookie pay scale, because there is less risk in drafting a player high relative to previous years. The most analogous trade to this one from history would be:

46, 54, 94, 213 = 29, 112

Other examples:

25 = 28, 163, 235
25 = 32, 96, 129
25 = 43, 70, 114
25 = 76, next 1st, next 4th
26 = 36, 87, 159
26 = 42, 73
26, 162 = 41, 73, 83
27 = 39, 70, 142
27, 159 = 40, 71, 103, 138
28 = 110, next 1st
28 = 31, 127
28 = 41, 63

Hey, if you can do it. More power to ya bud. But that sucker won't be me.

[jrdrylie]

Hey guys, just got on. My pick will be up within 10 minutes,

[Matthew Jones]

Originally Posted by jrdrylie

Hey guys, just got on. My pick will be up within 10 minutes,

My pick's all ready after that.

[jrdrylie]

Pick is up!

[scottyboy]

banks is a steal. considered him at our pick. he's so good

[marshallb]

Just got home from work. Let me review things and then I'll have my pick up.

[jrdrylie]

Originally Posted by scottyboy

banks is a steal. considered him at our pick. he's so good

Yeah, not really a huge need, but hard to pass up a guy who could easily go ten spots earlier.

[marshallb]

Pick is up. Kinda glad that Milliner and Banks went, because it would have been a tough decision for me between those two and Rhodes. I love Rhodes's natural ability, though, and with both Jammer and Cason being free agents and Jammer being old, CB is definitely a need.

[Matthew Jones]

I like the Rhodes pick. I considered him for New England, but I'm not sure he really fits New England's defensive scheme.

[TACKLE]

Suck my D, ATL.

[D-Unit]

Originally Posted by TACKLE

Suck my D, ATL.

Testy testy... what's that about???

[TACKLE]

Originally Posted by D-Unit

Testy testy... what's that about???

I ******* hate his guts. That's what.

[BeerBaron]

I don't have a number for Bos, so he's got until 11 est.

[Matthew Jones]

Dion Jordan has to be the most shocking pick so far; I'm trying to imagine how he fits into Dean Pees' defense. I'd like to hear how Baltimore came to that decision.

[Matthew Jones]

I like that Jonathan Cooper pick a lot; great pull blocker. I was considering him over Barrett Jones but the versatility swayed me.

[BeerBaron]

Originally Posted by Matthew Jones

Dion Jordan has to be the most shocking pick so far; I'm trying to imagine how he fits into Dean Pees' defense. I'd like to hear how Baltimore came to that decision.

To bring the conversation here, I have no clue.

I knew he wasn't on the underclassmen list, so I checked the player rankins and didn't see him in the top couple names at DE or OLB, so I'm like "****, now I'll have to have them repick..."

But there he was, much further down than I expected.

[scottyboy]

Dion Jordan is freaking awesome, that's why. He's gonna be a huge climber come draft day.

[Matthew Jones]

Originally Posted by scottyboy

Dion Jordan is freaking awesome, that's why. He's gonna be a huge climber come draft day.

He definitely has a unique skillset, but he's very thin and can't anchor at all, which is one of the most vital aspects of Pees' defense. The Ravens are also set at outside linebacker already with Suggs/Upshaw.

[BeerBaron]

Giants approach maybe? Just grab all of the pass rushers they can.

[scottyboy]

i'm actually mad because I would've liked Jordan on the Giants and tackle is a big poop head. PASS RUSHERS ARE OUR THING. OUR THING