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Old 10-08-2012, 12:26 PM    (permalink
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Nah bruh, your D is good enough to win you like 4 games down the stretch.
If that happens we will throw down in fisticuffs.
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To weigh in on the debate over Smith's arm talent, I would say his arm talent is the best of any college player. He has the ability to throw with touch and accuracy both when he can step up and when he is on the move or with pressure in his face. Smith doesn't necessarily fire the ball with tons of velocity, but his raw arm strength is among the best in college football. He can throw off his back foot with pressure in his face better than just about any QB in college.

Logan Thomas is probably next on the list when it comes to arm talent, but Thomas lacks both accuracy and precision. He can throw with incredible velocity and can put the perfect amount of air under his deep balls, but he misses his target too frequently to be considered Smith's equal in arm talent.

Zac Dysert and Aaron Murray are probably the next closest, and Tyler Bray, Matt Barkley, Tyler Wilson, and EJ Manuel all have various deficiencies in their throwing ability that are not possessed by Smith.
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Hm....so how come no recent updates on this thread?
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Because he sucked so bad he probably isn't a draftable player anymore. I mean ONE GAME! How is it possible to play bad for one game?! Worst. prospect. ever.
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Old 10-14-2012, 10:51 AM    (permalink
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Because he sucked so bad he probably isn't a draftable player anymore. I mean ONE GAME! How is it possible to play bad for one game?! Worst. prospect. ever.
Haha I wasn't getting to that point, but I see many will bump this thread if he explodes next week.

I still like Smith as my top QB, and top 5 pick, but you have to agree. The Big 12 isn't strong defensively. If stronger defenses contain him like this, Question marks will come into play.

As of right now, I say it's one game. Let's see how the rest of the season goes. But Texas Tech isn't 49-14 good.
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Haha I wasn't getting to that point, but I see many will bump this thread if he explodes next week.

I still like Smith as my top QB, and top 5 pick, but you have to agree. The Big 12 isn't strong defensively. If stronger defenses contain him like this, Question marks will come into play.

As of right now, I say it's one game. Let's see how the rest of the season goes. But Texas Tech isn't 49-14 good.
No QB from that offensive tree has ever found success in the NFL as a high draft pick. Andre Ware, David Klingler, and Tim Couch were all miserable failures. Nothing suggests Smith won't follow their lineage.
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No QB from that offensive tree has ever found success in the NFL as a high draft pick. Andre Ware, David Klingler, and Tim Couch were all miserable failures. Nothing suggests Smith won't follow their lineage.
Baylor runs the same Air Raid offense as WVU except with more read option concepts. 5 games isn't a career, but it's safe to say that RGIII is tracking to be at least a solid to good NFL QB.

Andre Ware busted because of lack of preparation. COuch busted because of injuries. David Klingler just didn't have it.

The argument you're using as to why we should expect Geno Smith to fail in the pros would have prevented you from drafting Aaron Rodgers because he was another Tedford QB product, all of whom were less than stars in the NFL.

BTW TT might be good this season. They lost by 21 to an Oklahoma team that beat Texas by 42 points.
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It's 2012. People still think like this?
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An average day for him is not going to having any movement of his draft stock. By comparison Matt Barkley looked mediocre to me.
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It's 2012. People still think like this?
Jeff Tedford QBs will never have success in the NFL either!
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Apparently. This NFL is a lot different than the NFL that those prospects came into.
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Looked like TTU was disguising their coverages pretty well pre-snap and it was giving him trouble. Once they got behind, WVU struggled to flirt with staying aggressive and staying patient. Got off schedule and behind the chains trying to make everything up with big plays.
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Looked like TTU was disguising their coverages pretty well pre-snap and it was giving him trouble. Once they got behind, WVU struggled to flirt with staying aggressive and staying patient. Got off schedule and behind the chains trying to make everything up with big plays.
doesnt help at all knowing you have to score 40+ every game to win
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Looked like TTU was disguising their coverages pretty well pre-snap and it was giving him trouble. Once they got behind, WVU struggled to flirt with staying aggressive and staying patient. Got off schedule and behind the chains trying to make everything up with big plays.
That's because he's not a first round QB.

I know a lot of people want there to be a great QB in every class, but this class reeks of the same type of stuff that the 2007 QB class had.
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That's because he's not a first round QB.

I know a lot of people want there to be a great QB in every class, but this class reeks of the same type of stuff that the 2007 QB class had.
Meh, I'd gladly take Smith or Wilson in the top 10 of almost any class.
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I'm with you here. Smith may not have the most fluid mechanics, but anytime you throw 23 TD to ZERO INT, you got something going. Not sure what happened against Tex Tech, but this guy is legit. It's not like he's Denard Robinson. This guy can ball right now and has a pretty high ceiling. The hype needs to start raining down.
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That's because he's not a first round QB.

I know a lot of people want there to be a great QB in every class, but this class reeks of the same type of stuff that the 2007 QB class had.
32 picks in the first round and Geno Smith doesn't rank one of those slots??
I don't know many who rate this QB class anything special, but that has nothing to do with Geno Smith who IMO is still a top 5 prospect.
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Smith's composure reminds me an awful lot of RG111. I don't know yet how the scouts rate his arm strength but his intangibles are right there with RG111.
If he get passed on arm strength by the pro scouts, his ceiling is off the charts IMO. He looks very special to me.
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His compose in the pocket is better than RG3's IMO (who had a tendency to get awkward and frenetic under pressure).
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The Aaron Rodgers comparison is the best IMO. He has such a quick release and the guy isn't scared of anyone. He was standing tall against LSU's defense last year. I love his pocket presence. He can move his feet really well in the pocket to avoid rushers and he doesn't panic.

I think Geno is a special QB. He's gonna be a top 10 QB in the NFL IMO.

And I pray to God my Chiefs win the sweepstakes for him because putting him in an offense with Charles, Bowe and Baldwin would be so insane.
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It's going to be funny for me when the Chiefs win 3-4 of their last 5-6 games and put themselves out of the running for him.
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Why would that be funny? I guess Chiefs fans aren't allowed to be excited at the prospect of drafting a future franchise QB, the first since the early 80s. Sorry y'all, Caddy has spoken.
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Why would that be funny? I guess Chiefs fans aren't allowed to be excited at the prospect of drafting a future franchise QB, the first since the early 80s. Sorry y'all, Caddy has spoken.
I'm telling ya: Josh McDaniels 2013!
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32 picks in the first round and Geno Smith doesn't rank one of those slots??
I don't know many who rate this QB class anything special, but that has nothing to do with Geno Smith who IMO is still a top 5 prospect.
I'm not touching a QB that can't read real defenses in the top 5 unless he has physical tools that make jaws drop.

Geno Smith is a 3rd rounder in most draft classes. He's mediocre at almost everything, but people are blinded by the numbers he's putting up in a high school offense.

I just hope WV gets to play a good defense before the year is over (lol@Texas). If they play LSU in a bowl game and Geno doesn't look like ****, then maybe I'll change my mind.
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