Denver Broncos Discussion - Page 129

Rosebud · 10-15-2012, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by njx9

what the ******* **** is with this team.

You have a Manning now.

njx9 · 10-15-2012, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rosebud

You have a Manning now.

he's like... 'dudes, you all need to fail at all times in the first half. i need more comeback victories.'

Rosebud · 10-15-2012, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by njx9

he's like... 'dudes, you all need to fail at all times in the first half. i need more comeback victories.'

Peyton's been studying Eli, he now knows that if you don't make it hard on yourself in the regular season, you won't have clutchnezzz n rezilienze in the playoffs.

Diehard · 10-15-2012, 11:34 PM

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******* right! absolutely insane game. epitome of "tale of two halves".

The fact the team didn't fold after those early errors was remarkable... but it was the Chargers folding in the end that really put the smile on my face.

njx9 · 10-15-2012, 11:41 PM

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The fact the team didn't fold after those early errors was remarkable... but it was the Chargers folding in the end that really put the smile on my face.

yup. though i wish i could say we actually won the game, rather than just saying the chargers lost it.

Diehard · 10-16-2012, 10:39 AM

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yup. though i wish i could say we actually won the game, rather than just saying the chargers lost it.

Momentum and morale are elusive things. On the drive that gave us the lead, our offense wasn't going to be denied. You could just feel it. That has to have a huge effect on a defense.

Now the Charger offense was a different story. They just folded.

Timbathia · 10-16-2012, 08:02 PM

If we could somehow stop the absurd errors (dropping footballs when catching or running, tripping over grass blades, running completely wrong routes, etc.), then we are actually a pretty good team.

njx9 · 10-16-2012, 08:29 PM

there are just so many weaknesses on this defense. i dunno. i can't tell if the team that gets us back into every game, or the team that can't stop a 3rd down conversion is the real broncos.

Diehard · 10-19-2012, 05:15 PM

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there are just so many weaknesses on this defense. i dunno. i can't tell if the team that gets us back into every game, or the team that can't stop a 3rd down conversion is the real broncos.

It sure seems like the halftime adjustments make a big difference.

The best thing for the defense would be for the offense and return game to stop misfiring early. The defense will look good playing with a lead.

njx9 · 10-28-2012, 11:24 PM

i really like holliday when he doesn't fumble the ball.

Diehard · 10-29-2012, 12:25 AM

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i really like holliday when he doesn't fumble the ball.

He's great at making the first guy miss and he read his blocks well. Hopefully he can keep it up.

Solid game all around tonight. The early fumble was a ugly moment... and unfortunately typical for the team this year. However it was smooth sailing after that.

The offense is really starting to click. Manning is making excellent use of the weapons he has available. The one back formation with either a TE or WR in the slot is a tough one for other teams... so much Manning can do from that one. We've got lots of weapons too - hell, with Virgil Green making some plays tonight that gives us six decent receivers (3 TE's, 3 WR's). Not bad. The McGahee + Hillman combo looks to be a good one as well.

Credit the defense for keeping the Saints under control. The young guys are playing well and having Brooking there as the steady, veteran hand seems to be working out. I'm not buying in to all the hype/hyperbole that the announcers were getting into tonight, but as long as this side of the ball plays moderately well we'll have a great chance to win some more games.

njx9 · 10-29-2012, 08:26 AM

i like watching our offense. peyton seems to have gotten the early jitters (those throws against atlanta... ugh) out of the way. i still don't think hillman is special, but he's a million times better than moreno, so he's still making us better than we were last year. i can't believe we were mostly able to cover graham, or that we were able to prevent brees from throwing it to him. 5 for 63 and a garbage touchdown is way less than i would've predicted. also, i love champ. i loved portis, but that trade had to be one of the best moves the franchise has ever made. and thomas didn't fumble this week! even if mcgahee still did.

i still don't like: our safeties, our linebackers, and the complete lack of push from our DTs. it would be awesome if wolfe were an nfl caliber DT, but he just isn't. he's not a bad player at DE, but i don't see him ever being a great DT without adding a ton of bulk.

Diehard · 10-30-2012, 06:10 PM

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i still don't like: our safeties, our linebackers, and the complete lack of push from our DTs. it would be awesome if wolfe were an nfl caliber DT, but he just isn't. he's not a bad player at DE, but i don't see him ever being a great DT without adding a ton of bulk.

Wolfe is a power DE who can slide to DT on passing downs. We've seen more stunts recently and I suspect that's to advantage of his energy (and play down his lack of bulk). I think he'll end up being very productive for us.

The LB situation is pretty fluid - I think we'll eventually settle on a smaller, faster corps like Fox had in Carolina. DJ's foolishness and Mays' injury have certainly helped speed up that process. There are definitely going to be growing pains (see Trevathan getting beaten like a rented mule by Sproles) but there have also been some nice flashes of potential.

It was interesting to see we promoted a safety after Mays went down. We've seen a fair amount of big nickle the last few games with the extra S on the TE. I suspect that trend will continue.

njx9 · 10-30-2012, 06:18 PM

i'm not saying wolfe sucks, but we still need 2 down DT's to plug gaps. i don't believe wolfe can do that.

Diehard · 11-02-2012, 05:55 PM

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i'm not saying wolfe sucks, but we still need 2 down DT's to plug gaps. i don't believe wolfe can do that.

Agreed. Maybe he'll put on weight as he matures, maybe not. Either way, we need to grab another DT in the draft.

njx9 · 11-02-2012, 08:57 PM

regarding the draft, i would literally kill someone to move up and take te'o.

Diehard · 11-03-2012, 11:53 AM

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regarding the draft, i would literally kill someone to move up and take te'o.

That may very well happen. MLB is our biggest need by far. We've also got a lot of young players on the team already, so there's not the pressure that comes with trying to overhaul an aging roster.

If Walton and Carter can come back at full strength, we'll have a fair amount of flexibility on draft day. MLB and DT seem like they will be locks... maybe a power RB as well. After that, we're looking at what? Depth for the secondary, receiver and OL? Sounds like a good position to be in to consider a potential trade-up.

njx9 · 11-03-2012, 03:22 PM

agreed. i think if there were a great cb, i'd be ok with that, but i think a lot of our picks should have decent value after round 3. if we could secure the next stud mlb to play with doom and von... *drool*

Diehard · 11-04-2012, 01:42 PM

105 yard KR by Holliday to rip things open...

jCut · 11-04-2012, 11:08 PM

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105 yard KR by Holliday to rip things open...

A GREAT pickup. Brings an element to our special teams that we haven't had in a while.

A solid road win today, though the loss of Chris Kuper really stings. Manny Ramirez is a massive downgrade.

Diehard · 11-11-2012, 04:17 PM

If we have an Achilles' heel, it's fumbles. We put the ball on the ground *way* too often.

Other than that, things are looking pretty good. The offense can move the ball, the defense is firing on all cylinders and we've got some playmakers on special teams.

Finally, a shout out to Robert Ayers... he played pretty well against Cincy and today he was wreaking havoc out there. I'm hoping the light has finally turned on for him.

Timbathia · 11-11-2012, 06:44 PM

Shame Doom is hurt, but hopefully we can get by without him for the short term.

Also nice that we can do so many things wrong in one game and still win easily.

Von Miller is sick.

njx9 · 11-11-2012, 08:37 PM

god i love holliday. such a huge pick up for us. von is absolutely ridiculous. wrongest i've ever been about a broncos draft pick. totally agree on the fumbles, i have no idea what mcgahee's problem is.

jCut · 11-11-2012, 11:29 PM

Del Rio is bringing out the best in everybody on defense.

Diehard · 11-18-2012, 08:40 PM

We had the opportunity to really take control of the AFC West and we capitalized. That's encouraging.

The disappointing thing was the lack of execution by the offense. We should've scored gobs of points while the Chargers were getting snuffed by the D - instead it was a mixed bag of overthrows, drops and miscues. McGahee getting injured certainly didn't help the consistency on offense... the lack of second power back really hurt. That's something the team definitely needs to address in the offseason.