New York Giants Discussion - Page 297

Damix · 11-06-2012, 09:10 AM

This is a big game for us, keeping the 2 game lead + having at least 1 team drop to 3 back would definitely be huge.

NY+Giants=NYG · 11-06-2012, 09:30 AM

We had a chance to extent that lead. Damn 20-10 lead, and I wish we could have made it 24-10. I felt things changed after we settled for a damn FG.

scottyboy · 11-06-2012, 09:37 AM

Settling for fgs has been our mo. It's killing us

Rosebud · 11-06-2012, 10:17 AM

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Settling for fgs has been our mo. It's killing us

We're 6-3 with the next best teams in our division being 3-5. Nothing is killing us.

NY+Giants=NYG · 11-06-2012, 10:37 AM

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We're 6-3 with the next best teams in our division being 3-5. Nothing is killing us.

We had a chance to push that lead. We had a 20-10 lead, and then power went off on all 3 phases. That killed us. Kicking FGs is hurting us. Ben didn't settle for those often in the red zone. Romo scored when they got in the red zone.

We have to put away teams when they are on the ropes. It's like we are one hay maker short of knocking them out and we whiff. It's very frustrating to see. We have to beat Cincy!

Rosebud · 11-06-2012, 10:50 AM

Why? Why do we have to put teams away now? The playoffs are still a long way away but we're in a great position to qualify for them. So why does the sky have to be falling?

NY+Giants=NYG · 11-06-2012, 10:52 AM

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Why? Why do we have to put teams away now? The playoffs are still a long way away but we're in a great position to qualify for them. So why does the sky have to be falling?

Ok, let them hang around. I like having a big lead and watching teams come back and take the lead. If we are getting an ass kicking that would be one thing. We have the lead on these teams. Finish! Capitalize when we have chances to go for the kill.

Giantsfan1080 · 11-06-2012, 10:53 AM

Not that mad at this game. Once everyone is back and healthy the offense will be back to normal. Eli has been playing pretty bad lately but of course he'll get it together. No worries at all.

scottyboy · 11-06-2012, 10:53 AM

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We're 6-3 with the next best teams in our division being 3-5. Nothing is killing us.

As I submitted that I knew it was poor phrasing. It killed us in our 3 losses and has been a struggle all year. It hasn't killed us, but can be an extremely large issue down the road. As a team and standings wise, we're in fine shape and I hope health with nicks and the d will improve down the line and Elis funk will end, but if the red zone struggles continue, it could be a major issue

NY+Giants=NYG · 11-06-2012, 10:57 AM

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Not that mad at this game. Once everyone is back and healthy the offense will be back to normal. Eli has been playing pretty bad lately but of course he'll get it together. No worries at all.

Not just Eli. He is making some throws that are off. But he has no where to go with the ball. We stopped running screens, no dump offs, and no one can get open on a 5 and 7 step drop. Cruz is the only WR we are using. Nicks is useless and no one else is stepping up. Add a failure to score in the red zone, and it's not all on Eli. Not that you said it was. But looking at the articles and the titles one would guess Eli is the main cause which is BS by the media!

Forenci · 11-06-2012, 11:00 AM

One thing that didn't really get brought up is Tynes. We all love him but his inability to make a FG beyond 50 really scares me. We're really out of luck if we need a big, game winning FG and it happens to fall beyond the 50 yard mark.

Part of that is on Coughlin too. Beyond a 50 yard field goal he needs to punt it or go for it, in my opinion.

It's tough because inside 50, there might not be a better kicker in the NFL right now.

Giantsfan1080 · 11-06-2012, 11:04 AM

I don't think it's all on Eli but he certainly hasn't been himself. I don't think it's anything to be majorly concerned about at this time though.

Giantsfan1080 · 11-06-2012, 11:06 AM

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One thing that didn't really get brought up is Tynes. We all love him but his inability to make a FG beyond 50 really scares me. We're really out of luck if we need a big, game winning FG and it happens to fall beyond the 50 yard mark.

Part of that is on Coughlin too. Beyond a 50 yard field goal he needs to punt it or go for it, in my opinion.

It's tough because inside 50, there might not be a better kicker in the NFL right now.

Coughlin is at fault here. Tynes is money within the 50 but the stubbornness to keep throwing Tynes out there is frustrating. I think that was the biggest momentum change in the game.

NY+Giants=NYG · 11-06-2012, 11:10 AM

It depends on what info the special teams coach is giving him via the head set. During pre game, the ST coach or ST assistant documents Tynes in pre game. And you see the distances and hash location. Then during the game you use that data and tell Coughlin.

For example, if Tynes made it on 3 hashes, left, middle and right, from 50 +, then when the call is about to be made. Quinn could say, hey made it pre game so we are a go coach. Or if he missed all 3, you scream no coach, he missed it from that distance.

I say that because pre game, I helped with that and scouting opposing kickers and long snappers. You have a stop watch and document the time from snap to kick. So this way you let the ST coach know so he can see the mechanics of it so that you can decide mid game the best play.

So it might not be on Coughlin if he is getting certain information.

bigbluedefense · 11-06-2012, 02:12 PM

Philly losing last night was huge. Now Dallas is 3-5, and Philly is 3-5 and they play each other this week. Which means one of them will be 3-6 and will have to go basically 6-1 at worst the rest of the way to make the playoffs which realistically isn't happening.

Which means the hunt for the playoffs comes down to 2 teams for the rest of the way.

I think Philly is done. I never ever count out the Eagles and Andy Reid, but this year just feels different. This year feels like it's finally time Andy Reid's reign of terror is over. And quite honestly, his team isn't good enough to bounce back.

We have to win the rest of our division games. 2 more division games. Must wins. And then we gotta find 2 more wins in the rest of the schedule.

NY+Giants=NYG · 11-06-2012, 02:23 PM

I agree! So let's say Dallas loses. They are done. Eagles you think could be done, never rule them out, however, it feels different. I agree! The pressure to save reid's job may be too much. I think this is the swan song before he gets fired. So that leaves who? Bob and us? Do you think they have a chance to claw back or are they done too?

bigbluedefense · 11-06-2012, 02:32 PM

No the Redskins have no chance in hell of competing for the division. Shanahan already said they're mailing it in for the rest of the season to evaluate players.

I think the division is btw us and Dallas.

NY+Giants=NYG · 11-06-2012, 02:36 PM

I think Dallas is done. I don't see them coming back. They have no leaders on that team to rally the team.

bigbluedefense · 11-06-2012, 02:46 PM

They're a better team than Philly right now. I typically judge teams based off their quarterback. Romo is a lot better than Vick.

If you have a bad qb, you better hope the rest of your team is so good that it masks that guy (49ers). If not, you're not worth **** in my eyes as a team.

Philly has a bad quarterback. And they're not talented enough elsewhere to make up for it.

NY+Giants=NYG · 11-06-2012, 02:48 PM

Then it makes sense you picked Dallas. I am more worried about our team specifically the offense. We can't have that power shut off so to speak. I don't trust the defense, so if the offense decides to take some time off, then I don't like our chances.

D-Unit · 11-06-2012, 06:09 PM

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Then it makes sense you picked Dallas. I am more worried about our team specifically the offense. We can't have that power shut off so to speak. I don't trust the defense, so if the offense decides to take some time off, then I don't like our chances.

Watch out for Dallas.

scottyboy · 11-06-2012, 07:19 PM

Dallas has a ridiculous defense, enough to keep them in it and every game. But who ever loses the game between Dallas and Philly next week is all but done. Over-coming 3-6 is near impossible.

bigbluedefense · 11-07-2012, 08:12 AM

I expect Dallas to beat Philly. I think Philly is done.

Giantsfan1080 · 11-07-2012, 08:44 AM

Balls in our court so I'm not concerned with that game. 7-3 going into the bye will be excellent and it'll set up nicely for what we want to accomplish.

Rosebud · 11-07-2012, 10:14 AM

Honestly, even 6-4 heading into our bye off back to back losses is a good spot for this team. We play better under fire and I'm much more worried about the team clinching too early than somebody passing us.

The defense has shown it can step up and boss even teams with excellent OLs and running games like the 9ers, Eli has nothing left to prove, the OL is better than last year and the running game isn't terrible. I don't expect us to repeat, but it's certainly possible and we're in solid shape to pull it off.