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View Poll Results: Eddie George or Tiki Barber
Eddie George is Better, but both should be in the Hall of fame 14 17.07%
Eddie George is Better. Only George should be in Hall of Fame 29 35.37%
Tiki Barber is Better but both should be in the Hall 15 18.29%
Tiki is Better. Only Tiki should be in Hall of Fame 24 29.27%
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Old 04-17-2007, 08:23 PM    (permalink
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Not sure what George brings to the table that Tiki doesn't. I mean, George did not have one season with over 4 YPC.....and he is in a hall of fame discussion?
Well he had 2 over 4.0 actually. Bettis will probably get in with a 3.9 career avg. Is 4.0 some magical #? Like when Wal mart tries to sell you something at $19.99....it just seems so much cheaper than 20 bucks!

But seriously, if you watched the guy run in his prime (96-01), you'd know a stat doesn't tell the whole story at all. He wasn't the same back the last few years, and didn't have a very long run in his prime. He was one of the best at the time of his prime....but neither he nor Tiki are HOF's to me.
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see there's your problem...you will only get answers if you start a thread about it...
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wheres the tiki is better but neither deserve the hall of fame option?
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That was a joke, PACK. Unfortunately, the debate between McNown and Couch is as relevant as the Eddie George/Tiki discussion.
Eddie couldnt even take it to the house and only averaged 3.2 yards per carry. Barber was known as a soft player. Im sorry but I think there both overrated.
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How about "Eddie George is better, neither should be in the HOF".
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How about "GRF>all and should be in the Hall of Fame over anyone here."
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You know how hard it is to be able to carry the ball 30 times in a game week after week? That's durability that rarely comes around.
I find it hard that people are trying to make a comparison between a workhorse RB that ran in a power running offense (George) and a Slash type RB that worked out of a more pass-happy offense (Tiki)

Frankly, I don't think either proved enough in their career to be HOF worthy. Both good players, but Neither have done anything to scream HOF. Sure Tiki has the 10kRushing/5k Receiving, but he still didn't really stand out until the last few years.

I'd rather face Tiki than Eddie George. 3.5 Yards a carry, whatever, 30 carries, that takes a toll.

I think a better comparison would be Tiki vs. Marshall Faulk and George vs. Jerome Bettis (Lopsided, but more comparable.)
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Tiki's numbers are better, Tiki is more versatile. Not one RB in this history of NFL dominated over a three year span the way Tiki did these last three years. (Note: I believe this to be true, I did research on it and couldn't find anyone. If you find a player who out produced Tiki in a 3 year consecutive span, I'll give you mad rep)

Also a wise man once taught me to never trust a man with two first names. So that eliminates Eddie George from any discussion.

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Barber is better but I wouldn't put either in the hall of fame
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Eddie, Eddie, Eddie.................!!!!!!!!

He was the Titans offense for three years or more, without him we were nothing
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Eddie, Eddie, Eddie.................!!!!!!!!

He was the Titans offense for three years or more, without him we were nothing
And Tiki wasn't the Giants offense. Find me someone that ran for total of 5040 yards in three consecutive years. Let alone someone that has a ypc over 4 for his career.
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And Tiki wasn't the Giants offense. Find me someone that ran for total of 5040 yards in three consecutive years. Let alone someone that has a ypc over 4 for his career.
How about Barry Sanders, Eric Dickerson?

God I hate homers.

Tiki Barber is a borderline Hall of Famer. Eddie George only can get in the same you, I, and Drew Bledsoe can get in, by buying a ticket.
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And Tiki wasn't the Giants offense. Find me someone that ran for total of 5040 yards in three consecutive years. Let alone someone that has a ypc over 4 for his career.
YPC is one of the most overrated things in the NFL, eddie was one of the few RB that could run 30 times a game with 10 in the box trying to defend him, i'm saying tiki isn't good, but i would much rather have a powerback that is going to get me atleast 3 yards every time he touches the ball.
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How about Barry Sanders, Eric Dickerson?

God I hate homers.

Tiki Barber is a borderline Hall of Famer. Eddie George only can get in the same you, I, and Drew Bledsoe can get in, by buying a ticket.
God, you just love to be a complete ass don't you. No where I said Tiki deserves to be in the hall of fame. Correct looking up their stats Dickerson and Sander both did what Tiki did. But this thread is comparing George to Tiki, and George never came close to Tiki's domination these last 3 years.

Also when you say how about Sanders and Dickerson as examples. By giving HOFers you aren't really hurting Tiki's argument.
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YPC is one of the most overrated things in the NFL, eddie was one of the few RB that could run 30 times a game with 10 in the box trying to defend him, i'm saying tiki isn't good, but i would much rather have a powerback that is going to get me atleast 3 yards every time he touches the ball.
YPC really isn't overrated at all. Over the span of 2000+ carries it is actually pretty relevant. Over a smaller sample size I will agree though.
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YPC is one of the most overrated things in the NFL, eddie was one of the few RB that could run 30 times a game with 10 in the box trying to defend him, i'm saying tiki isn't good, but i would much rather have a powerback that is going to get me atleast 3 yards every time he touches the ball.
So now he was running the ball 30 times with 10 in the box? Interesting, I guess I didn't watch football during that era.
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Tiki's numbers are better, Tiki is more versatile. Not one RB in this history of NFL dominated over a three year span the way Tiki did these last three years. (Note: I believe this to be true, I did research on it and couldn't find anyone. If you find a player who out produced Tiki in a 3 year consecutive span, I'll give you mad rep)

Also a wise man once taught me to never trust a man with two first names. So that eliminates Eddie George from any discussion.

I found two for you. Now give me a positive rep if you are a man at your word. I'm giving you a negative one for your homerism.

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Maaaaan, I just hope Jacobs runs over everybody next year. Thats all I care about.
Jacobs a freakin breast, but i still remeber how pissed he was last year when the giants blew that lead against the Titans.....I think he ate some of the media alive...
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Originally Posted by eacantdraft View Post
Keep thinking that.
Its true. Negative rep from red square posters doesnt effect anyone.

Contrarily, now you just opened up the oppurtunity for Jug to negative rep you in return, and his negative rep will in fact effect your status. So....you basically just screwed yourself.

Good job.
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